Best Luxury car for resale

Best Luxury car for resale

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mambolambo

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128 posts

163 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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JZZ30 said:
Surely this is perfect criteria for a lease? Just fund the depreciation and let someone else worry about moving it on.
JZZ30 I have always bought things cash. The leasing guy needs to make a profit too right? So in my mind, this is going to end up being more expensive.

Alex_225

6,261 posts

201 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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I can imagine selling a high end car privately must be pretty tricky.

I bought my CLS63 for a pretty strong price but it was pristine and very low mileage, plus I knew the previous owner. That said, I am under no illusion that if I tried to sell it, it would be a slow process.

People have no hesitation spending £20k+ on a mediocre car but they want something from a dealership with warranty I guess.

As for resale, I suppose anything that isn't horrendously thirsty, is in a 'normal' colour and good spec would hold some value.

w8pmc

3,345 posts

238 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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As above, one of the cheap Lease deals makes sense if you're only planning on keeping for 2-3yrs.

An example is the A8 Black Edition i picked up in July, deal was IIRC, 6+23 based on 10kpa at a total monthly cost of £460. Basically the rentals wouldn't even cover 50% of the depreciation over that term so kind of a no brainer.

petjam

489 posts

146 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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How about the previous model E63s facelift with the 5.5 biturbo?

I have one in estate form, plenty of room for the kids / dogs and goes like stink.

A fully loaded 2013/2014 can be had for around £40k (if you can find one). Very rare, my main dealer tells me they only sold 25 in estate form in the UK. They appear to hold their prices quite well.

I had a C63 estate PPP before. Again a very rare car (I only saw two others). I bought that for £42k, owned for three years and sold for £33k. Fingers crossed the E does the same.

Edit - There is one on ebay at the moment.

Edited by petjam on Friday 24th November 10:56

5harp3y

1,942 posts

199 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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in this market its probably better to be looking at a SUV

wack

2,103 posts

206 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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5678

6,146 posts

227 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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mambolambo said:
I had a 750LI previously. That was a real ball ache to sell as well. It seems only a few people like myself like 5-liter petrol engines

Yes I am thinking of a petrol S class, Audi s8 but I suspect they are also a pain to sell later?
That's the crux of it. It's a small market for big petrol engines cars that aren't M/RS models.
I had a 650i that I couldn't give away at one point!

fatjon

2,200 posts

213 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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A8L 4.2TDI

On my second and it just does not get any better short of something like a Bentley. Mercedes S Class is close but the engine options are a bit crap with either a guzzling petrol or a diesel that can't pull the skin off a rice pudding. I picked up a 3 month old one with 2000 miles for less than 45k. They sell well too as there is not much to compete with them.

mambolambo

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128 posts

163 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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5678 said:
That's the crux of it. It's a small market for big petrol engines cars that aren't M/RS models.
I had a 650i that I couldn't give away at one point!
Good to see a real man finally smile. Yeah m5 maybe a good idea come to think of it but I need AWD. My brother has an ML6.3 AMG but he has not tried to sell it yet.

You think the M5 will be easier to shift when I am bored with it? I heard AMG which are special like the M also depreciate like the pound after brexit.

mambolambo

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128 posts

163 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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fatjon said:
A8L 4.2TDI

On my second and it just does not get any better short of something like a Bentley. Mercedes S Class is close but the engine options are a bit crap with either a guzzling petrol or a diesel that can't pull the skin off a rice pudding. I picked up a 3 month old one with 2000 miles for less than 45k. They sell well too as there is not much to compete with them.
Thanks Fatjon, a good option. By your name, we sound like we have a similar frame type as well. I have always like this type of exec limo.

captain_cynic

11,998 posts

95 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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mambolambo said:
S9JTO said:
335d xDrive
A6 3.0TDI S Line Avant
540d
Yeah, I think diesel easier to sell?
Easier to sell, maybe... Holding their value... definitely not.

Firstly, these are large cars (well large for the UK) and large cars tend to lose value the fastest.

Secondly, they're common and more common in the oil burner variant.

Did a quick search on the 335i compared to the 335d on Autotrader, the both for 2013 models, the 335d's were asking from £16,000 to £24,000, the 335i's were asking from £18,000 to £27,000. There were 5 diesels compared to 3 petrols in a 50 mile radius from me.

SUV's lose value even faster than large saloons. Given the OP has 3 kids, what about an M5 or E63 AMG... M/AMG cars hold their value better than the standard models due to exclusivity.

r11co

6,244 posts

230 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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S9JTO said:
335d xDrive
His three kids would hate him for it. Very cramped in the rear.

tigger1

8,402 posts

221 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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mambolambo said:
JZZ30 said:
Surely this is perfect criteria for a lease? Just fund the depreciation and let someone else worry about moving it on.
JZZ30 I have always bought things cash. The leasing guy needs to make a profit too right? So in my mind, this is going to end up being more expensive.
You might want to go investigate the S8 lease thread...

Dealers / Brokers aren't paying RRP when they buy hundreds / thousands of cars to lease out. It can certainly be cheaper to lease SOME cars than to buy, especially if you're not doing massive miles. Don't forget to factor in that you can invest your 30-40k over the course of the lease too, further reducing the cost.

Don't under-estimate the ridiculously low-cost of financing if you can afford it.

sjg

7,452 posts

265 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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Tesla Model S? Plenty to choose from out of their used stock if you've got 45k to spend, and if you buy from them they come with a fresh 4-year warranty.

Limpet

6,309 posts

161 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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mambolambo said:
JZZ30 I have always bought things cash. The leasing guy needs to make a profit too right? So in my mind, this is going to end up being more expensive.
Some of the leasing guy's profit comes from the fact he buys a lot of cars, so gets a far better unit price than you or I would as private buyers. Of course that's not all his profit, but it is a chunk of it.

I used to work for a Ford dealer, and one of the big lease companies we supplied got 35% off list.

captain_cynic

11,998 posts

95 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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tigger1 said:
You might want to go investigate the S8 lease thread...

Dealers / Brokers aren't paying RRP when they buy hundreds / thousands of cars to lease out. It can certainly be cheaper to lease SOME cars than to buy, especially if you're not doing massive miles. Don't forget to factor in that you can invest your 30-40k over the course of the lease too, further reducing the cost.

Don't under-estimate the ridiculously low-cost of financing if you can afford it.
I don't think anyone is paying RRP.

My 240i was barely above RRP with dealer delivery, £2500 of options and finance.

OddCat

2,527 posts

171 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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mambolambo said:
I have had a Panamera turbo for sale, very, very well priced for the last 6 or so months. I think I have finally sold but what a pain. I guess the things that put people off are:

1) stumping up a fair wad of cash for a 2010 car
2) well, cannot think of anything else.

My next car I would hopefully like to sell quicker. I am thinking of a luxury saloon as I have 3 kids. Any pointers?
When buying a car, I can't ever remember thinking about the ease of re-sale / disposal. I simply slip on my buying goggles and Bob's your Uncle.

I'm obviously doing something wrong !

5678

6,146 posts

227 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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mambolambo said:
5678 said:
That's the crux of it. It's a small market for big petrol engines cars that aren't M/RS models.
I had a 650i that I couldn't give away at one point!
Good to see a real man finally smile. Yeah m5 maybe a good idea come to think of it but I need AWD. My brother has an ML6.3 AMG but he has not tried to sell it yet.

You think the M5 will be easier to shift when I am bored with it? I heard AMG which are special like the M also depreciate like the pound after brexit.
Anything at that level is going to depreciate fairly heavily though.

M5 would be a safe bet I'd have thought? Even if it didn't sell privately, there would be plenty of dealer interest.

mambolambo

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128 posts

163 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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OddCat said:
When buying a car, I can't ever remember thinking about the ease of re-sale / disposal. I simply slip on my buying goggles and Bob's your Uncle.

I'm obviously doing something wrong !
Yes, I always go for the 5 liter petrol and my last 2 cars have been a fecking pain to sell on. I still want something good but after 6 months on the online sales shelf, you start to hate the sight of it.

DSLiverpool

14,743 posts

202 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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mambolambo said:
JZZ30 said:
Surely this is perfect criteria for a lease? Just fund the depreciation and let someone else worry about moving it on.
JZZ30 I have always bought things cash. The leasing guy needs to make a profit too right? So in my mind, this is going to end up being more expensive.
Not quite right in that the cost to own for 2 years via lease may be cheaper than buying and selling yourself - depends on each car and time / mile factors but its worth doing the maths.