Best Lease Car Deals Available? (Vol 5)

[cdrx]

https://www.contracthireandleasing.com/independent...

Smart Fortwo Coupe 1.0 Pure 2dr
1+47 @ 92.99 inc VAT
8k miles p/a
£238 fee

Amortises to less than £100 / month

A 36 month agreement, keeping the car in warranty, adds £15 ish / mo amortised

[DJM7691]

Greywall said:

HMG1K said:

Greywall said:

Thanks for posting this deal. They're a bit low on the ground. The Mini isn't the car I was looking at getting but it's in stock and I suppose a decent car to drive for 3 years.

I have asked for a quote, which I received early this evening. But for people in the know, is this a competitive price? The Mini is being refreshed for 2018, although I'm not sure all the changes are for the better!

Be sure to check the model year on offer - there are similar deals on Select Car Leasing for 2016 (!!!) models for the MINI.

Thanks for pointing that out. However, seems that this is a stock model (only one colour available) but Select Leasing is approx £300 dearer over the 3 years.

I know nothing about MINIs. Cute car but missing basics such as sat-nav. Is it worth almost £7700 over 3 years or should I look elsewhere?

Personally I think its a good deal. yes it hasn't got Nav, but chilli pack puts a decent spec on the car. Not sure if it has Apple carplay/android auto as standard but that would mitigate need for Nav. Also, how many of us actually use nav on anything more than a semi-regular basis? Unless of course you are a roving salesman, but then you would likely be in a company car or with much higher mileage.

Deal works out at 38% of RRP over 3 years so on the percentage rule its ok.

[tigger1]

cdrx said:

https://www.contracthireandleasing.com/independent...

Smart Fortwo Coupe 1.0 Pure 2dr
1+47 @ 92.99 inc VAT
8k miles p/a
£238 fee

Amortises to less than £100 / month

A 36 month agreement, keeping the car in warranty, adds £15 ish / mo amortised

Cheapest rwd coupe deal ever!? About £10k rrp though, so still ~24% of purchase cost. Cheap motoring, but dear god, why would you!?

[Blown2CV]

Fast Bug said:

EyeHeartSpellin said:

Hi guys, could anyone advise please;

I am looking at getting the C43 Estate. It's just had a facelift so I am not sure if it's going to be better to get the current model as it might go cheap before new stock comes in or wait for the new one as it might have good deals as a 'new' car. Any advice? Thank you.

Facelifted version doesn't arrive until June, it's quite a mild facelift in all honesty. There are some cars with additional support behind them, but I haven't seen any C43 with additional money though. I'm not sure who's the cheapest on them though in all honesty

all the AMG 43 cars are upsettingly expensive in my view. I do like them a lot though.

[TomScrut]

Blown2CV said:

Fast Bug said:

EyeHeartSpellin said:

Hi guys, could anyone advise please;

I am looking at getting the C43 Estate. It's just had a facelift so I am not sure if it's going to be better to get the current model as it might go cheap before new stock comes in or wait for the new one as it might have good deals as a 'new' car. Any advice? Thank you.

Facelifted version doesn't arrive until June, it's quite a mild facelift in all honesty. There are some cars with additional support behind them, but I haven't seen any C43 with additional money though. I'm not sure who's the cheapest on them though in all honesty

all the AMG 43 cars are upsettingly expensive in my view. I do like them a lot though.

Its why I drive an S5. I think if the C43 was similar money to my S5 I would have had the C43.

[add1ct3dd]

Man there's so few deals around. I came originally from a Golf R lease, and I'm currently on a Pug206 GTI by P.S lease (£168/m for 11k/year 6+23), and boy leasing nowadays there's no deals!!

I'm tempted by the Cupra 300, £289/m for 11k/year, 1+23. That seems to be the only rough deal. Waiting to see how much extending the Pug would be but then I run into the fun on MOT etc. It's a bit more than I want to spend, but if it's the only deal.. xD

Edited by add1ct3dd on Friday 23 March 10:37

[5to1]

bennno said:

fizz47 said:

bennno said:

Only that estate cars look like hearse's in black and that 7.9k for 2x8k miles = 50p per mile plus the cost of 2 services.

Well bought second hand Superb, would be a lot cheaper.....

If you time your services and hand back wellyou could get away with just the 1 service..

still makes it >50p mile motoring.

many of these lease deals only work if compared to buying a new car and comparing against peak initial depreciation.

When you find someone that will let you pay for a car on a per mile basis, rather then depreciation for every day you own it, no one will be happier then me

And you'll be a popular man if you can negotiate the buying price of a car by comparing it to an example several years older. I'm getting a new Cayenne, when are you free to come to the OPC and get the price down based on the price of 5 year old ones?

[TomScrut]

5to1 said:

And you'll be a popular man if you can negotiate the buying price of a car by comparing it to an example several years older. I'm getting a new Cayenne, when are you free to come to the OPC and get the price down based on the price of 5 year old ones?

I think a living could be made out of that

[Orla321]

tigger1 said:

cdrx said:

https://www.contracthireandleasing.com/independent...

Smart Fortwo Coupe 1.0 Pure 2dr
1+47 @ 92.99 inc VAT
8k miles p/a
£238 fee

Amortises to less than £100 / month

A 36 month agreement, keeping the car in warranty, adds £15 ish / mo amortised

Cheapest rwd coupe deal ever!? About £10k rrp though, so still ~24% of purchase cost. Cheap motoring, but dear god, why would you!?

I got the Smart deal 2 years ago, I currently pay £73 a month for 10,000 miles on a 24 month deal. Comes to an end in June so sadly this is a bit early for me. So hopefully another will be around in a couple of months. Great for nipping about town and easy parking.

[mi1ne]

My M135 is due to go back Mid April, with the computer saying a service is due in 1800 miles or 04/2018.

Now as there will still be half of April left when it goes back will I get stung if I don't do the service? (I know this isnt a deal in a deal thread so shoot me...)

[Fast Bug]

TomScrut said:

Blown2CV said:

Fast Bug said:

EyeHeartSpellin said:

Hi guys, could anyone advise please;

I am looking at getting the C43 Estate. It's just had a facelift so I am not sure if it's going to be better to get the current model as it might go cheap before new stock comes in or wait for the new one as it might have good deals as a 'new' car. Any advice? Thank you.

Facelifted version doesn't arrive until June, it's quite a mild facelift in all honesty. There are some cars with additional support behind them, but I haven't seen any C43 with additional money though. I'm not sure who's the cheapest on them though in all honesty

all the AMG 43 cars are upsettingly expensive in my view. I do like them a lot though.

Its why I drive an S5. I think if the C43 was similar money to my S5 I would have had the C43.

They're great cars, but it's very rare that MB put a bucket load of support behind them in an Audi fashion.

Outright fleet terms are usually half of what a standard C Class is. I was sorely tempted to get one to replace the A45, but I'm bored of petrol stations so went with a diesel GLC instead

[Blown2CV]

Fast Bug said:

They're great cars, but it's very rare that MB put a bucket load of support behind them in an Audi fashion.

mercedes is keen to put vast amounts of support behind all sorts of vehicles on occasion. AMG less often but they do do it from time to time.

[Fast Bug]

Blown2CV said:

Fast Bug said:

They're great cars, but it's very rare that MB put a bucket load of support behind them in an Audi fashion.

mercedes is keen to put vast amounts of support behind all sorts of vehicles on occasion. AMG less often but they do do it from time to time.

Yeah sometimes they do put chunky support behind the product, no where near as much as their fellow German manufacturers though. Some of the customer terms for BMW are eye wateringly high!

[EyeHeartSpellin]

TomScrut said:

Its why I drive an S5. I think if the C43 was similar money to my S5 I would have had the C43.

I know what you mean. The S4 Avant is significantly cheaper than the C43. I know the moment o go for it though the C43 will have a deal!

[5to1]

EyeHeartSpellin said:

TomScrut said:

Its why I drive an S5. I think if the C43 was similar money to my S5 I would have had the C43.

I know what you mean. The S4 Avant is significantly cheaper than the C43. I know the moment o go for it though the C43 will have a deal!

Get a move on then so everyone else can grab a C43

[HMG1K]

DJM7691 said:

Personally I think its a good deal. yes it hasn't got Nav, but chilli pack puts a decent spec on the car. Not sure if it has Apple carplay/android auto as standard but that would mitigate need for Nav. Also, how many of us actually use nav on anything more than a semi-regular basis? Unless of course you are a roving salesman, but then you would likely be in a company car or with much higher mileage.

Deal works out at 38% of RRP over 3 years so on the percentage rule its ok.

Out of interest, what's the percentage rule over two years? Thanks

[snake_oil]

bennno said:

still makes it >50p mile motoring.

many of these lease deals only work if compared to buying a new car and comparing against peak initial depreciation.

That's the whole point of this thread!

2nd hand comparisons are that way >>>>>>

[DJM7691]

HMG1K said:

Out of interest, what's the percentage rule over two years? Thanks

Very subjective, not hard and fast but generally, for 2 years and 10kpa:

<15% Amazing, once in a blue moon (alltrack)
15-20% Great deal
20-25% Decent
25-30% Not awful

This is just a guide. For cars that are heavily discounted, its better to use the discounted broker price rather than RPP (you can find this on broadspeed etc). Above all though, make sure you are purchasing the car in the most cost effective way for a new car and check PCP, personal loan/depreciation etc. If you can justify the cost, and it meets your requirements thats obviously the main thing.

[soupdragon1]

Blown2CV said:

soupdragon1 said:

7doughnuts said:

Unclegerry said:

7doughnuts said:

Have you driven one? I had one as a courtesy car a month or so ago and was completely uninspired by it. I felt like I was the captain of a cruise ship!

It actually changed my view on cars! I have bought a number of new cars without driving them before (BMW 330e, Volvo XC60...), and had my eye on the S/V90 for when my current lease ends. I would have been devastated had I pulled the trigger without driving it and then had it for 2/3 years. It wasn’t the AWD I had though to be fair.

I guess I’m in the minority when it comes to buying without trying though?!

Same here, not driven any of my last 4 leased cars. Was considering V90, but remembered trying a XC60 a few years back with the auto box. Just could not live with it. Was the gearbox the issue on your test?

I drove the new 5 series for 2 days (courtesy car) and then had the Volvo S90 for a 2 day test drive - so effectively I drove both cars back to back

It was just the dullest driving experience I’ve ever had. Engine was underpowered, handling was wallowing. I even had passengers who didn’t like it!

I drove the new 5 series for 2 days (courtesy car) and then had the Volvo S90 for a 2 day test drive - so effectively I drove both cars back to back. The Volvo is a good car IMO and right up there with the BMW 5 series. Would give the edge to BMW on the ZF gearbox, but I'm a big fan of ZF gearboxes anyway, and the 2L engines in both cars were very comparable - nothing in it really.

The Volvo took corners better than the BMW (which surprised me) The problem with the BMW was the limited feedback on steering going round sweeping bends and roundabouts. You felt like you couldn't feel where the grip was when the roads were damp/greasy. The Volvo on the other hand gave a more assured feeling of grip, and I felt I had a ton of grip to spare. That inspires confidence when you are behind the wheel and the car feels more planted as a result. Sure, it pitches a little (its a big and heavy car after all) but it still gives a nice drive.

Lesson for me was that its important to do your own test drives. Reviews always have BMW as a drivers car. Maybe it is better (on a nice dry day on a race track) but on damp, greasy roads where if you make a mistake you could wipe yourself or someone else out, its doesn't inspire confidence at all, resulting in an apprehensive driving experience. That was my experience of them anyway. For a 5 metre car, I think the Volvo was spot on.

O/T but it's v interesting that. There was a review of the new M5 on autoexpress yesterday and as one of the commenters said, it seemed a bit of a lukewarm review and yet 5/5 rated at the end. Maybe it is a bit of a cult that things have got a bit divergent from the original brief as it were but no-one yet has had the courage to stand up and say do you know what they're showing signs of losing their way a bit.

I've been looking into what I've said a little bit, as there aren't many people who would say the Volvo corners better than the equivalent BMW. Most people would tip the hat firmly in BMW's favour. I decided to look into the actual tyres used, and found some interesting info.

The Volvo was on the new Pirelli P Zero's and this is what auto express has to say about the P Zero's:

• *As you expect from a new tyre aimed at the mass market rather than the sporting one, fuel economy is special. It topped previous pace-setter Goodyear and it’s all been achieved without compromising the wet grip – the usual trade-off for low rolling resistance. It won the cornering test and was on the podium around the handling track. Through a series of turns, it was well controlled and progressive, and although grip was gradually lost as lock increased, turn-in was sharp

There was a similar feeling on the dry track, where it finished third. It wasn’t as lively as the Continental, but worked well in the early parts of corners, with decent traction****

So the P Zero's came 1st in the wet cornering test

For the 5 series, which was fitted with the Pirelli Cinturato P7, this is what auto express said:

• * the P7 Blue was off the pace of the frontrunners. Its resistance to aquaplaning was poor at best. And in wet braking it needed more than six metres longer than the class-leading Continental. The track revealed a tyre that was front limited, lacking traction on lock and off the turns. In cornering, it was second in a close test, but despite this it still left the Cinturato the worst performer across the wet tests.

It was more at home in the dry, where it was just half a second off the handling test winner and around four metres off in the braking test. It felt one of the sportier tyres, with sharp steering and good traction. Still, you can’t help feeling this is a tyre with a single focus, and such designs never fare well in our test, which demands all-round performance***

Considering my 4 day test drive (2 days in the 5 series and 2 days in the S90) was 4 days of driving on damp/greasy roads, its little wonder I favoured the handling of the Volvo, as it seems those P7's that are fitted on the BMW aren't that good in wet conditions. The BMW probably would have given me a more enjoyable drive if it had the P Zero's on it. When I read the above comments from auto-express, it totally lines up with my own experience. I just had no confidence in where the grip was when going round sweeping bends or roundabouts. All because the car was fitted with a poor choice of tyre.

I know this is the lease thread, but I thought some may find this little story interesting

[nickfrog]

bennno said:

docp said:

Opinions appreciated - Have been offered v90 R design in metallic black with android auto as only option - £330 amortized over 24 months. Any thoughts?

Only that estate cars look like hearse's in black and that 7.9k for 2x8k miles = 50p per mile plus the cost of 2 services.

Well bought second hand Superb, would be a lot cheaper.....

Quite a few flaws in your thought process:

A Superb is not a V90
A second hand car is not new
A lease is often more expensive than a 2 year old car but not always when you consider all the factors (consumable, VED, repairs/warranty, opportunity cost, MOT etc...).