Rejecting Car Based on Misleading MPG

[Shrub]

Dan W. said:

Hopefully the new WLTP tests can end this mpg fiasco so many cars claim they do.

and regarding getting your money back from a dealer its a tough one, having had a few customers try this in the fast usually the same outcome, the dealership didn't build the car or do the mpg tests or claim it does that economy.

get in touch with Peugeot and they will maybe help you out with a goodwill gesture or they will contact the dealer.

Thank you for the advice. I am aware that there is a cooling off period with finance as well and as I am only two days in to the contract, I’m hoping that this will come in to effect somehow.

[98elise]

Audemars said:

Shrub said:

Why do you think it’s a wind up?

How old are you? Since when has any car in the history of cars ever met the claimed MPG figures?

Most people take the claimed figure and multiply by 50% to 70% for real life mpg.

This

[lord trumpton]

The quoted mpg figures are based on theoretical calculations, lab tests and perfect conditions - is no wind, correct tyre pressures, no elec/aircon running/flat surface etc etc.

Its always difficult to compare to real world as these figures are 'real' and will vary from user to user for many factors not just how you drive.

In an nutshell you will just have to accept it as there will be not chance of a refund

[Dan W.]

Shrub said:

Dan W. said:

Hopefully the new WLTP tests can end this mpg fiasco so many cars claim they do.

and regarding getting your money back from a dealer its a tough one, having had a few customers try this in the fast usually the same outcome, the dealership didn't build the car or do the mpg tests or claim it does that economy.

get in touch with Peugeot and they will maybe help you out with a goodwill gesture or they will contact the dealer.

Thank you for the advice. I am aware that there is a cooling off period with finance as well and as I am only two days in to the contract, I’m hoping that this will come in to effect somehow.

Hi the cooling off period will only allow you to cancel the finance, you will still need to pay for the car.

good luck

[DanielSan]

Shrub said:

No, I bought it to replace a Discovery 4 that is out of warranty, has 100,000 miles on the clock, is starting to need very expensive repairs, costs £540 per year in road tax and does 26mpg. I do 20,000 miles per year. The diesel really adds up in top of all the other costs

So the car you’ve bought does double the MPG of your old one, you bought a car to get something with better MPG. What’s the issue?

This thread is a wind up or you’ve realised a Peugeot is actually crap and just want a way out of it.

[ZX10R NIN]

The new WLTP test should result in figures closer to reality but as a PH member you should be more aware than most that the cars never reach their figures & all mpg figures come with a disclaimer.

So in a nutshell your Disco needed a bit of maintenance after reaching 100k (as you'd expect) you didn't want to spend the money so bought a new car to save money?

How much was the work the Disco needed?

Fuel wise you're getting double I don't see the problem.

Also you bought a car with 120bhp 200 lb/ft engine to pull around an AWD drivetrain & 1540kgs of car that combo can only be best described as adequate at best, had you got the 150bhp 2.0d you'd probably be using the same amount of fuel but working the engine less.

Edited by ZX10R NIN on Saturday 7th July 11:30

[anonymous-user]

How many miles do you do a year?

[Shrub]

[quote=DanielSan]

So the car you’ve bought does double the MPG of your old one, you bought a car to get something with better MPG. What’s the issue?

That is a fair point DanielSan although not 100% accurate. Your figures are misleading haha

[Shrub]

Thesprucegoose said:

How many miles do you do a year?

Around 20,000

[TooMany2cvs]

Shrub said:

Yes it was an ex-demo.

6-12mo car...? Go on, what mileage? "Demo", they said?

My money's on it being ex-rental.

[DoubleD]

This is why I am glad that I dont have to deal with the public when im at work!

[HTP99]

Dan W. said:

Shrub said:

Dan W. said:

Hopefully the new WLTP tests can end this mpg fiasco so many cars claim they do.

and regarding getting your money back from a dealer its a tough one, having had a few customers try this in the fast usually the same outcome, the dealership didn't build the car or do the mpg tests or claim it does that economy.

get in touch with Peugeot and they will maybe help you out with a goodwill gesture or they will contact the dealer.

Thank you for the advice. I am aware that there is a cooling off period with finance as well and as I am only two days in to the contract, I’m hoping that this will come in to effect somehow.

Hi the cooling off period will only allow you to cancel the finance, you will still need to pay for the car.

good luck

Peugeot won't give a monkey's they will bat it back to the dealer who will tell you to jog on.

[anonymous-user]

Shrub said:

Around 20,000

Let's put it in context you are pissed at an extra cost of 650 quid a year or basically 15 quid a week in mpg cost difference.

You will loosing x10 that in depreciation alone, yet a new car is cheaper to run.....

[Tomo1971]

The fuel figures are there purely to compare two cars results under lab (equal) conditions.

Real world is just a whole new scenario that no one can compare.

If its that much an issue, google hypermilling

[V10 SPM]

If the driving conditions are right you should be able to get close to the manufacturer's figure or better it.

[Muddle238]

The 3008 is your average-sized SUV. Combine that with a wheezy engine of only 1600cc and it's not surprising the economy is poor, small ish engine shifting a heavy great crossover. I've never understood why people expect small ish engines in big ish cars to manage incredible MPG figures, especially the claimed combined figure which is well known to be pretty unattainable in real life. I have no idea what the claimed figures of my cars are but I know what I actually achieve with them.

The other thing is that you've had the car for what, two full days? Have you managed to do a few full-to-full brimmed tank MPG calculations over many hundreds/thousands of miles or are you just looking at what the trip computer says since you picked the car up a couple of days ago? As mentioned above, things like air con which I suspect you'll have on in this weather currently will sap a lot of juice. To get an accurate and representative average MPG figure, do the maths based on actual mileage between brimming the tank at fill-ups, using a calculator, paper and pencil. Do this over several months and average your results, this will be more accurate than whatever the trip computer can come up with.

The other point of note is to save money on doing 20,000 miles a year, generally buying a virtually brand new French car is the best way to not save much money at all. You ought to be looking at 10-15 year old diesels on Autotrader/eBay, this is where the real savings are. Get something capable of intergalactic mileage and then spend a fraction of the money you would have spent on that 2017 Peugeot in maintenance and the odd repair bill to keep it going, you won't even scratch the surface in terms of costs compared to buying a new car and then loosing it all on depreciation anyway. Plus some real bargains to be had as long as you don't care about image.

[Dan W.]

HTP99 said:

Dan W. said:

Shrub said:

Dan W. said:

Hopefully the new WLTP tests can end this mpg fiasco so many cars claim they do.

and regarding getting your money back from a dealer its a tough one, having had a few customers try this in the fast usually the same outcome, the dealership didn't build the car or do the mpg tests or claim it does that economy.

get in touch with Peugeot and they will maybe help you out with a goodwill gesture or they will contact the dealer.

Thank you for the advice. I am aware that there is a cooling off period with finance as well and as I am only two days in to the contract, I’m hoping that this will come in to effect somehow.

Hi the cooling off period will only allow you to cancel the finance, you will still need to pay for the car.

good luck

Peugeot won't give a monkey's they will bat it back to the dealer who will tell you to jog on.

I agree.

[BrassMan]

The claimed figure should be based on a standard test. It's not the manufacturers fault that the test isn't representative of how you drive.

[Butter Face]

Dan W. said:

HTP99 said:

Dan W. said:

Shrub said:

Dan W. said:

Hopefully the new WLTP tests can end this mpg fiasco so many cars claim they do.

and regarding getting your money back from a dealer its a tough one, having had a few customers try this in the fast usually the same outcome, the dealership didn't build the car or do the mpg tests or claim it does that economy.

get in touch with Peugeot and they will maybe help you out with a goodwill gesture or they will contact the dealer.

Thank you for the advice. I am aware that there is a cooling off period with finance as well and as I am only two days in to the contract, I’m hoping that this will come in to effect somehow.

Hi the cooling off period will only allow you to cancel the finance, you will still need to pay for the car.

good luck

Peugeot won't give a monkey's they will bat it back to the dealer who will tell you to jog on.

I agree.

I also agree

[Pericoloso]

evoivboy said:

That's some lurking

Going by this waste of bandwidth ,lurking is probably the OP's forte.