Secure/defensive vehicle mods

Secure/defensive vehicle mods

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fr_UK

Original Poster:

34 posts

66 months

Friday 19th October 2018
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So, looking to get a 4x4 soon around 10-13K budget have looked at range rovers but liking the Cayenne GTS as well which seems worth it.

Either way, I want to do some defensive mods to prevent entry to the cabin and deter any crack heads from coming close.

Any tips please? have looked so far at tempered/ballistic windows, but would appreciate suggestions. I would also like to somehow have a painfully loud siren switch and some sort of blinding lights installed on the grille, more blinding than the HIDs we see nowadays.

Price estimates welcome, much appreciated!

Cfnteabag

1,195 posts

196 months

Friday 19th October 2018
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Where on earth do you live to need that?

Haltamer

2,455 posts

80 months

Friday 19th October 2018
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Cfnteabag said:
Where on earth do you live to need that?
The badlands of central London laugh

Depending on what you wish to achive, It could be £200k of custom armoured car:http://armoured.uk.com/premier-collection or £20 of Ebay sirens and trim tape.

To defend against something, you'll need at least some kind of threat modelling beyond crackheads. Opportunist theives? Carjackers? The majority of which could be prevented by locking doors, closing windows and using some defensive planning / driving to ensure that escape routes are open enabling a simple driveaway.

fr_UK

Original Poster:

34 posts

66 months

Friday 19th October 2018
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Thanks for the response!

I'm not too bothered about the body work being penetrated, but the windows should be able to withstand being hit by solid items; bricks poles etc.

Opportunistic thieves would be the main focus so a siren that can be controlled internally and extremely loud would be good and I just need suggestions on what kind of lighting to go for that needs to be mounted on the car.

Thanks again- and I'd like to get it done within about £1000ish so no tape needed I hope

Pericoloso

44,044 posts

163 months

Friday 19th October 2018
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fr_UK said:
I just need suggestions on what kind of lighting to go for that needs to be mounted on the car.
What ?.....confused

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 19th October 2018
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A 10 year old car won't be thieves main choice. I would spend 1k on a holiday. Your requirements are ludicrous unless you a drug dealer in moss side.

fr_UK

Original Poster:

34 posts

66 months

Friday 19th October 2018
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Pericoloso said:
What ?.....confused
http://www.modifystreet.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/RRB-5770-f.jpg

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 19th October 2018
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fr_UK said:
Thanks for the response!

I'm not too bothered about the body work being penetrated, but the windows should be able to withstand being hit by solid items; bricks poles etc.

Opportunistic thieves would be the main focus so a siren that can be controlled internally and extremely loud would be good and I just need suggestions on what kind of lighting to go for that needs to be mounted on the car.

Thanks again- and I'd like to get it done within about £1000ish so no tape needed I hope
What items of value are you carrying that needs to withstand bricks and poles.

For ideas/reference I would look at g4s/securacor vans.

poppopbangbang

1,840 posts

141 months

Friday 19th October 2018
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You can use TOP300-R on automotive glass, it's BR1 rated. Needs to be anchored top and bottom though to avoid being "pushed" through the window opening.

fr_UK

Original Poster:

34 posts

66 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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Thanks, will look into this, do you know whether windshields are allowed to be replaced with tougher materials?

996Keef

435 posts

91 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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MOT fail if you replace it with sheet steel

HTH

Thats What She Said

1,152 posts

88 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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Are you a drug dealer worried by his clients?

FlatToTheMat

1,426 posts

163 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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Anything you do aftermarket wise will only have a limited effectiveness. Pentagon Glass Protection, Auto Lock on Doors, Disable Stop start, runflat tyres, ensuring you always have 1/2 tank of fuel and doing some advanced driving, evasive manoeuvring etc. Also id avoid low profile wheels, if going for a GTS, those wheels and tyres not not put up with accelerating across a curb etc at anything faster than walking pace!

Assuming this isnt a schoolkid dreaming and youre series then buy purpose built. Along the lines of a VR4 Built BMW such as: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2007-BMW-550i-Security-...tongue outf:0

Edited by FlatToTheMat on Saturday 20th October 18:22

Haltamer

2,455 posts

80 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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FlatToTheMat said:
Assuming this isnt a schoolkid dreaming and youre series then buy purpose built. Along the lines of a VR4 Built BMW such as: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2007-BMW-550i-Security-...tongue outf:0
That's only bullet resistant, not bullet proof! hehe

FlatToTheMat

1,426 posts

163 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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Haltamer said:
FlatToTheMat said:
Assuming this isnt a schoolkid dreaming and you're series then buy purpose built. Along the lines of a VR4 Built BMW such as: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2007-BMW-550i-Security-...tongue outf:0
That's only bullet resistant, not bullet proof! hehe
'Owt is better than nowt' - As I heard someone exclaim once

Ah the thing i forgot to suggest was, 'remain inconspicuous!', a Porsche of any description isnt, my money would go on a 4.8i Se X5 (Fitted with optional acoustic glass (Laminated)) with all the options.



Edited by FlatToTheMat on Saturday 20th October 18:52

vsonix

3,858 posts

163 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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Haltamer said:
To defend against something, you'll need at least some kind of threat modelling beyond crackheads.
Nope, sounds like the OP is planning on 'shotting rocks' and will need to be sure his more eager clients remain in check.

Haltamer

2,455 posts

80 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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vsonix said:
Nope, sounds like the OP is planning on 'shotting rocks' and will need to be sure his more eager clients remain in check.
I thought that was why you always have mandems / lengmen / skengmen sitting on the back bench to jooks up any uppity clients or competing pharmacists.
hehe

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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Surely something like this, repaint, retrim, job jobbed.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Land-Rover-110-Defender...tongue outf:0




Evanivitch

20,078 posts

122 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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Not exactly sure what OP has in mind....

Laminated glass on all windows is your best bet, should be enough to stop any blunt force going though windows.

Anything else would require significant rework to the doors and bodywork to accommodate the and armoured cars are not cheap. Occasionally one is available on a MOD disposal website/eBay.

stuartmmcfc

8,662 posts

192 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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Worried about a zombie apocalypse OP?