Why are Insignia's so cheap?

Why are Insignia's so cheap?

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gman88667733

Original Poster:

1,192 posts

67 months

Saturday 17th November 2018
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Any opinion on auto Vs manual with these? Current drive a DSG and fed up with it. I do enjoy a good auto though. It'd be a bit of a workhorse and probably get very muddy and dirty.
High mileage doesn't put me off, our Sorento is on 130k and runs well.
I probably don't do enough miles for the diesel, but we do longer trips occasionally, would that be enough?
Chap at work just takes it for a blast up the dual carriageway if the light comes on

danlightbulb

1,033 posts

106 months

Saturday 17th November 2018
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Insignias arent cheap its everything else thats too expensive. Far too many 8 year old plus cars are still at £10k or more.

And there arent that many about really. An AT search for Insignia estates auto diesel under £10k returns only 86 cars. That might be alot compared to some brands but it still means you cant just pop off down the local dealership and try a couple out.

Edited by danlightbulb on Saturday 17th November 17:38

ilikejam

1,089 posts

116 months

Monday 19th November 2018
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I work for a manufacturing company and the workshop has around 200 eastern Europeans working in it.

A lot of them will drive back and forth from Scotland to Poland etc. once or twice a year and a lot of them drive Insignias (the others predominantly with old 6 pot BMWs). I always take that to be a sign of what cars are reliable!

Not sure I could live with an older Insignia though (the newer ones look half-decent) - having had a 2010 Astra 1.8 Sri and really disliked pretty much everything about that car.


Edited by ilikejam on Monday 19th November 10:18

757

3,174 posts

111 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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Any more info on the reliability of a 1.4T Insignia - Look particularly good value, not that I am going to upgrade my leggy 1.8i Vectra just yet (costing me buttons to run this at the moment in all honesty) - but they seem remarkable value for age of vehicle and good running costs for a big car.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/144753590968

Bobupndown

1,804 posts

43 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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We have fleets of Insignias and Astras in work, but also Superbs and Octavias. The Vauxhalls are clunky noisy engines with poor gear changes and with cheap feeling trim and to me a really miserable place to be. The Skodas seem much nicer driving cars with better engines and with nicer interiors. Given the choice I always lift a set of Skoda keys.

RazerSauber

2,280 posts

60 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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Probably a lot due to Clarksons impact on the Vauxhall name. Even when Vauxhall came out with the fastest hot hatch of the time, Clarkson did little but berate it. Same with the Vectra after driving it like an absolute tool. When someone with that much influence in the motoring world makes such a statement, people listen and take the same view themselves despite never having sat in any of the cars he's praised or derided. The Insignia is a cheap, relatively reliable, well equipped family car. It's not the best at anything, nor is it the worst.

757

3,174 posts

111 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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Bobupndown said:
We have fleets of Insignias and Astras in work, but also Superbs and Octavias. The Vauxhalls are clunky noisy engines with poor gear changes and with cheap feeling trim and to me a really miserable place to be. The Skodas seem much nicer driving cars with better engines and with nicer interiors. Given the choice I always lift a set of Skoda keys.
I am quite happy running this Vectra, it is particularly quiet and refined being the 1.8i - sometimes don't even think its is running at all at the traffic lights - surely the Insignia is a step up from a 15 year old Vectra, surely! Even the gearbox is perfectly fine, apart from a crunchy rear at times, but I put that down to wear and tear at 132,000 miles.

Insignia is definitely on my list as a next car, being a staunched BMW man in the past also, will need to be specifically petrol too - petrols seem pretty robust from looking around, just wanted to advise on the 1.4T with the added (Turbo as a possible issue or bork factor) like my cars NA if possible.

LeeM135i

593 posts

54 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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Had a couple of Insignias as long term hire cars in 2013. They were nice cars, both manuals.

The VX Line one looked really sporty but sounded like a tractor, wasn't fast and had the most rock hard uncomfortable ride I've come across in a car and I've owned BMW M cars and Mercedes AMG's.

The non sporty one was actually very nice but still sounded like a tractor.

I have been looking at ditching the company van and buying an estate car and would happily have another non sporty Insignia.

Jamescrs

4,479 posts

65 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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Had a fleet of them at work alongside Octavias and I prefer the Insignias personally, bigger cars overall and better interior space IMO.

Definately prefer an Auto to a manual, we did have one SXI model which seemed a bit nicer inside and somehow sportier to drive.

For the prices they can be bought they are solid workhorses

A500leroy

5,126 posts

118 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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Cables operating the gear change tend to jump out, once youve fixed it once you soon get good at though.

757

3,174 posts

111 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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LeeM135i said:
Had a couple of Insignias as long term hire cars in 2013. They were nice cars, both manuals.

The VX Line one looked really sporty but sounded like a tractor, wasn't fast and had the most rock hard uncomfortable ride I've come across in a car and I've owned BMW M cars and Mercedes AMG's.

The non sporty one was actually very nice but still sounded like a tractor.

I have been looking at ditching the company van and buying an estate car and would happily have another non sporty Insignia.
Was it the diesel's that sounded like a tractor, as the petrol's from my experience are particularly smooth, petrol is the one I would go for these days.

Yes, seen a few VX line's about, they do look very purposeful and have some presence I think in that spec, almost SAAB in looks - that 'suckered to the ground' look the old 9-3 AERO's had.

Maybe that is why I like them, I do miss my old 9-3 biggrin

Edited by 757 on Monday 10th October 14:29

LeeM135i

593 posts

54 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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757 said:
LeeM135i said:
Had a couple of Insignias as long term hire cars in 2013. They were nice cars, both manuals.

The VX Line one looked really sporty but sounded like a tractor, wasn't fast and had the most rock hard uncomfortable ride I've come across in a car and I've owned BMW M cars and Mercedes AMG's.

The non sporty one was actually very nice but still sounded like a tractor.

I have been looking at ditching the company van and buying an estate car and would happily have another non sporty Insignia.
Was it the diesel's that sounded like a tractor, as the petrol's from my experience are particularly smooth, petrol is the one I would go for these days.

Yes, seen a few VX line's about, they do look very purposeful and have some presence I think in that spec, almost SAAB in looks - that 'suckered to the ground' look the old 9-3 AERO's had.

Maybe that is why I like them, I do miss my old 9-3 biggrin

Edited by 757 on Monday 10th October 14:29
Yes both diesels, around 120/130bhp. Get a good test drive in before you commit to the VX line, I got asked about the VX line a lot as they were new and rare when I had mine. I couldn’t live with the ride so asked Avis to give me the downgrade to a normal Insignia which handled the Uk motorway network much better.

ric p

572 posts

269 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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Used to get loads of Insignias from Enterprise as hire cars up to a few years ago. A good long distance cruiser, I found it surprisingly comfortable with decent kit and satnav. Overall something I’d actually put my money into if I needed that sort of thing.

Now get Astras and the odd Corsa, GrandLand, and CrossLand things. All absolutely dire and a step backwards. But not as bad as the absolutely dreadful Mokka of a few years ago. Would have rather walked or made an excuse not to go!

I couldn’t work out why the Insignia was so much better than the entire rest of Vauxhalls output. Especially when you compared the rest to a Focus, Fiesta, Golf etc, you realised how the others had moved the game on in the mass market segment with interior quality and ride.

Martin_Hx

3,955 posts

198 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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We have had our 2014 facelift estate auto (163 bhp i think) in elite spec for just over a year now, bought with 130k miles now on about 138k.

Its done 42mpg in all and does about 55 - 65 on a long run.

Its been an excellent family / holiday car

We changed the gearbox oil which was a faff, as it was a little jerky when we got it but overall its been a reliable and comfy cruiser

Brassblaster

213 posts

20 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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gman88667733 said:
Surely a well serviced example would be okay though?
Going out on a limb slightly... Yes, a well serviced example would probably be fine - but most modern cars that have been well serviced will be fine.

The question is, how many will you have to hunt through before you find one with good service history?

I'm not being flippant here - there are certain cars I wouldn't buy purely because I perceive that too many owners treat them as whitegoods... Rightly or wrongly, the insignia is one of them.

With £3k to spend I'd be looking elsewhere - there are better deals on better cars.

Personally, I have a thing for Volvo's and there's S80's with the 5-pot D5 or 2.4D for that kind of money - ok they're a couple of years older but I'd still buy them over an Insignia any day, and although I'd still check service history I'd be more expectant of finding something appropriate...
Eg:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202210080...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202208309...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202206267...

Beyond that, there's Honda Accords at that money that'd be more likely to be a good bet (albeit again older than the insignia's).

As others have said it's not that the insignia's are necessarily bad cars but they're boring and have very little to interest the PH crowd.

Edited by Brassblaster on Monday 10th October 23:32

757

3,174 posts

111 months

Tuesday 11th October 2022
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Brassblaster said:
Going out on a limb slightly... Yes, a well serviced example would probably be fine - but most modern cars that have been well serviced will be fine.

The question is, how many will you have to hunt through before you find one with good service history?

I'm not being flippant here - there are certain cars I wouldn't buy purely because I perceive that too many owners treat them as whitegoods... Rightly or wrongly, the insignia is one of them.

With £3k to spend I'd be looking elsewhere - there are better deals on better cars.

Personally, I have a thing for Volvo's and there's S80's with the 5-pot D5 or 2.4D for that kind of money - ok they're a couple of years older but I'd still buy them over an Insignia any day, and although I'd still check service history I'd be more expectant of finding something appropriate...
Eg:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202210080...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202208309...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202206267...

Beyond that, there's Honda Accords at that money that'd be more likely to be a good bet (albeit again older than the insignia's).

As others have said it's not that the insignia's are necessarily bad cars but they're boring and have very little to interest the PH crowd.

Edited by Brassblaster on Monday 10th October 23:32
Valid points, but for a cheap/modern/newer (2015/16) petrol (not diesel) family car - the Insignia is hard to beat for a mundane do it all family car. in my opinion.

FourGears

270 posts

55 months

Tuesday 11th October 2022
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757 said:
Any more info on the reliability of a 1.4T Insignia - Look particularly good value, not that I am going to upgrade my leggy 1.8i Vectra just yet (costing me buttons to run this at the moment in all honesty) - but they seem remarkable value for age of vehicle and good running costs for a big car.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/144753590968
I would ratherba 1.8 or 2.0t for £4k. That car seems really pricey.


Brassblaster

213 posts

20 months

Tuesday 11th October 2022
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757 said:
Valid points, but for a cheap/modern/newer (2015/16) petrol (not diesel) family car - the Insignia is hard to beat for a mundane do it all family car. in my opinion.
As long as you're willing to put up with mundane and still service it thoroughly (and be willing to dig a bit for one that wasn't a whitegood to it's previous owner) - yes, absolutely it's hard to beat for the money.

Still doesn't mean I'd buy one.