Buying a Category S Car

Buying a Category S Car

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MathewPurewal

Original Poster:

11 posts

66 months

Friday 30th November 2018
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Hi guys, wondering if anyone can help.
Looking to buy a 1-year-old car for £8,500. Its category S, the owner has shown pictures of previous damage and the repair job looks sound.
However, it only comes with one key and its the spare key, not the fob.
Is this something to be worried about?
I'm most likely going to offer less because a new key fob will probably set me back a few hundred quid.
Any help would be appreciated!

ZX10R NIN

27,654 posts

126 months

Friday 30th November 2018
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Lost keys is quite normal so as long as you've done your checks & are happy with the repair then go for it, on the few occasions I've purchased a Category car I've found getting the tracking checked before buying is a good way of checking how well the repair has been done.

MathewPurewal

Original Poster:

11 posts

66 months

Friday 30th November 2018
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ZX10R NIN said:
Lost keys is quite normal so as long as you've done your checks & are happy with the repair then go for it, on the few occasions I've purchased a Category car I've found getting the tracking checked before buying is a good way of checking how well the repair has been done.

Cheers for the help! I'll get the tracking checked over for sure then. Thanks again.

ninjag

1,830 posts

120 months

Friday 30th November 2018
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Also worth double checking your insurance is going to be ok with it, some can be funny and hike the price or even flat out refuse.

Saleen836

11,135 posts

210 months

Friday 30th November 2018
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How much would the same make/model/mileage etc be worth if it wasn't a Cat S?

MathewPurewal

Original Poster:

11 posts

66 months

Friday 30th November 2018
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ninjag said:
Also worth double checking your insurance is going to be ok with it, some can be funny and hike the price or even flat out refuse.
I'm going to buy a new key so hope insurance will be okay with that. Thanks for that though, will give insurance company a call.

MathewPurewal

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66 months

Friday 30th November 2018
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Saleen836 said:
How much would the same make/model/mileage etc be worth if it wasn't a Cat S?
Looking at a range from around £9,000 to £12,000.

Saleen836

11,135 posts

210 months

Friday 30th November 2018
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MathewPurewal said:
Saleen836 said:
How much would the same make/model/mileage etc be worth if it wasn't a Cat S?
Looking at a range from around £9,000 to £12,000.
That is a big price difference but in reality you are saving £500, IMO I would rather spend the extra and buy a non Cat car

ninjag

1,830 posts

120 months

Friday 30th November 2018
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Selling it on could be an issue also?

Mr Tidy

22,491 posts

128 months

Saturday 1st December 2018
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ninjag said:
Selling it on could be an issue also?
I'd have said selling it on WILL be an issue!

For the sake of £500 I'd give it a miss at that price level - I really don't like buying cars with only 1 key either. The others are probably still around somewhere, which has to be a concern.

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 1st December 2018
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Price difference is way too low to justify getting a Cat S car IMO.

Unless you’ve a fully itemised damage report and bodyshop repair bill how do you know what’s been done to it and what it needed? How do you know it’s not been repaired as cheaply as possible with dodgy shortcuts being taken - e.g. welding new bits into the crash structure rather than completely replacing it.

They are cheap for a reason, it’s all about how comfortable people are with risk vs cost and an awful lot of buyers are (not unreasonably) extremely risk averse.

ninjag

1,830 posts

120 months

Saturday 1st December 2018
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charltjr said:
Price difference is way too low to justify getting a Cat S car IMO.

Unless you’ve a fully itemised damage report and bodyshop repair bill how do you know what’s been done to it and what it needed? How do you know it’s not been repaired as cheaply as possible with dodgy shortcuts being taken - e.g. welding new bits into the crash structure rather than completely replacing it.

They are cheap for a reason, it’s all about how comfortable people are with risk vs cost and an awful lot of buyers are (not unreasonably) extremely risk averse.
This is the thing, many moons ago I bought an Astra SRI saloon (back when SRI actually meant better performance) from a local mechanic but unknown to me the chassis had been welded, and obviously badly because it ripped apart on a corner - thankfully not high speed. Just not worth it when structural.

wack

2,103 posts

207 months

Saturday 1st December 2018
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If you can get a straight one for 9k that's a 6k car on a Cat S , 12k I'd go to 8-9k but no more , also you'll have to keep it or there's no saving to be made in the short term

If you know the history and have seen pictures and the price is right CAT cars can be a considerable saving but in reality the saving is lost when selling on if you don't run it into the ground, as an example I have a 2015 mercedes B class ,cat C bought at just under a year old fully repaired, had it 2 years so thought about changing it

a straight one is 12k , they offered me 6k against a 35k Mustang which I declined.

MathewPurewal

Original Poster:

11 posts

66 months

Sunday 2nd December 2018
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ninjag said:
Selling it on could be an issue also?
I was thinking this also, I was mainly going to use it as part ex for my next car afterwards, hoping it wouldn't be a problem.

MathewPurewal

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66 months

Sunday 2nd December 2018
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Saleen836 said:
That is a big price difference but in reality you are saving £500, IMO I would rather spend the extra and buy a non Cat car
You're right, I'm going down later with a mechanic to get it checked over. He says it's had a Vauxhall healthcheck (the car is an Astra), and if all is good, I'm going to offer a lot less than the asking price. Thanks for the help!

MathewPurewal

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66 months

Sunday 2nd December 2018
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Mr Tidy said:
I'd have said selling it on WILL be an issue!

For the sake of £500 I'd give it a miss at that price level - I really don't like buying cars with only 1 key either. The others are probably still around somewhere, which has to be a concern.
I've had a chat with Insurance company and they said they'll contribute £300 to the reprogamming of the locks and a new set of keys - just awaiting a quote back from Vauxhall to see how much I'll be looking at. Thanks for the help!

andymc

7,364 posts

208 months

Sunday 2nd December 2018
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i would leave it unless you are keeping it for 10 years

Butter Face

30,370 posts

161 months

Sunday 2nd December 2018
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MathewPurewal said:
ninjag said:
Selling it on could be an issue also?
I was thinking this also, I was mainly going to use it as part ex for my next car afterwards, hoping it wouldn't be a problem.
It would be. Lots of dealers wouldn't touch a Cat S with a bargepole!

WonkeyDonkey

2,343 posts

104 months

Sunday 2nd December 2018
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MathewPurewal said:
I was thinking this also, I was mainly going to use it as part ex for my next car afterwards, hoping it wouldn't be a problem.
Think you'd struggle to find many reputable dealers that would offer you anything for a Cat S.

I would stay away, the price difference really isn't big enough to even think about it. Cat N maybe, but not S.

Turbojuice

601 posts

90 months

Sunday 2nd December 2018
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It's very easy to make a repair look good, but in reality the car could be bent to buggery. For the small price difference between CAT cars and good cars, CAT cars are absolutely not worth it.

Spend a little more and get the same car that hasn't been written off and sleep happy at night.