I may finally "get" crossovers...
Discussion
dmsims said:
Don't forget the Evoque complete with dyed blond hair, gold handbag, gaudy DG sunglasses and a bottle of water
1,156 L (up to 2018) and longer than a Yeti
On a tangential note, am I right in thinking the Evoque Convertible has been a bit of a flop? I've seen about three. It is silly money, mind. 1,156 L (up to 2018) and longer than a Yeti
Johnnytheboy said:
dmsims said:
Don't forget the Evoque complete with dyed blond hair, gold handbag, gaudy DG sunglasses and a bottle of water
1,156 L (up to 2018) and longer than a Yeti
On a tangential note, am I right in thinking the Evoque Convertible has been a bit of a flop? I've seen about three. It is silly money, mind. 1,156 L (up to 2018) and longer than a Yeti
Seen only one, in orange. Not a single one currently on sale on Autotrader, so truly bombed!Suprised to be honest, lmagined the fake tan types would have lapped them up.
hyphen said:
Johnnytheboy said:
dmsims said:
Don't forget the Evoque complete with dyed blond hair, gold handbag, gaudy DG sunglasses and a bottle of water
1,156 L (up to 2018) and longer than a Yeti
On a tangential note, am I right in thinking the Evoque Convertible has been a bit of a flop? I've seen about three. It is silly money, mind. 1,156 L (up to 2018) and longer than a Yeti
Seen only one, in orange. Not a single one currently on sale on Autotrader, so truly bombed!Suprised to be honest, lmagined the fake tan types would have lapped them up.
I would have one to be fair (once they go sub 5k) top down in the nice weather while not caring about the potholes while just going round town so not going to be fast either way.
petemurphy said:
dmsims said:
Don't forget the Evoque complete with dyed blond hair, gold handbag, gaudy DG sunglasses and a bottle of water
1,156 L (up to 2018) and longer than a Yeti
seeing as its the lowest depreciating car in the uk maybe theyre not as dumb as you think..1,156 L (up to 2018) and longer than a Yeti
Andy20vt said:
Indeed, remarkable that in a standard YETI you can get an amazing 1,760 litres of boot space in a car that is only 4.2 metres in length.
I couldn't agree more, we had the VW version (Tiguan MK1) and it was huge inside while still being short enough for us.We now have the Yeti replacement (Karoq) and it's even bigger inside (1810l) as you can remove the rear seat altogether ; it's a little longer but still shorter than an Octavia Estate, so all good.
In terms of "image" and looking utilitarian etc.. we're not bothered what other people think, but I have no issues with anyone preferring a Yeti because it looks more functional tbf, each to their own.
It's good news to hear that you like Crossovers
.Edited by nickfrog on Monday 8th April 19:50
Back to the OP, yeah, I quite like the Forester and it's more utilitarian and less "fashion"-led approach but it has gone more SUV and less "jacked-up" estate car than the first two generations. The problem with the Forester is that it's a class size up from most of the other vehicles under consideration and therefore spec-for-spec more expensive and you either have to go diesel (and a friend's wife got rid of hers fairly quickly because she hated the gearbox) or CVT if you want the XT (and generally I hate CVTs). Great AWD system though and had Subaru stuck with the Legacy Estate and Forester along the same lines as it used to be, they would have had a pretty captive customer in me, as I would have loved a Spec B or manual Forester XT to replace my WRX. Is the XV basically a "jacked-up" Impreza hatch i.e. no roomier. I could be wrong but I thought that I also read somewhere that it had a cheaper "Haldex"-type AWD setup?
I'm also a fan of the Yeti (very "Matro Rancho") and disappointed that Skoda didn't persevere with it. The newest would be 2 years old now though, so it would have to be lowish miles and I would prefer to seek out a 4x4 version. My wife's grandfather is in his 80s and generally buys a new car every 3 years but he's holding onto his 2014 Yeti, as it's the "best car he has ever had" and he doesn't like what they have replaced it with as much.
I'm also a fan of the Yeti (very "Matro Rancho") and disappointed that Skoda didn't persevere with it. The newest would be 2 years old now though, so it would have to be lowish miles and I would prefer to seek out a 4x4 version. My wife's grandfather is in his 80s and generally buys a new car every 3 years but he's holding onto his 2014 Yeti, as it's the "best car he has ever had" and he doesn't like what they have replaced it with as much.
Andy20vt said:
nickfrog said:
It's good news to hear that you like Crossovers .
I like one particular crossover, not all crossovers .Edited by nickfrog on Monday 8th April 19:50
white_goodman said:
Back to the OP, yeah, I quite like the Forester and it's more utilitarian and less "fashion"-led approach but it has gone more SUV and less "jacked-up" estate car than the first two generations. The problem with the Forester is that it's a class size up from most of the other vehicles under consideration and therefore spec-for-spec more expensive and you either have to go diesel (and a friend's wife got rid of hers fairly quickly because she hated the gearbox) or CVT if you want the XT (and generally I hate CVTs). Great AWD system though and had Subaru stuck with the Legacy Estate and Forester along the same lines as it used to be, they would have had a pretty captive customer in me, as I would have loved a Spec B or manual Forester XT to replace my WRX. Is the XV basically a "jacked-up" Impreza hatch i.e. no roomier. I could be wrong but I thought that I also read somewhere that it had a cheaper "Haldex"-type AWD setup?
The XV is almost the same size as the original Forester that was so loved. It is the same AWD system as the Forester (not haldex) and now has X-mode as well. It does however have a CVT, but improved from the original ones.One bind with AWD cars, like 4x4 crossovers and all Foresters is the transmission and the need to keep the tyre diameters similar. You tend to have to change tyres in sets of four, not in pairs. Petrol Foresters seem to be quite thirsty too, although that is not unreasonable with the turbo models.
I don't mind Yetis but I haven't recovered from the sheer awfulness of my last car (Golf) to consider buying another VAG built vehicle just yet. Yetis are much more like a 4x4 version of these cars (we use one at work) which would probably make super family cars.
I don't mind Yetis but I haven't recovered from the sheer awfulness of my last car (Golf) to consider buying another VAG built vehicle just yet. Yetis are much more like a 4x4 version of these cars (we use one at work) which would probably make super family cars.
warch said:
One bind with AWD cars, like 4x4 crossovers and all Foresters is the transmission and the need to keep the tyre diameters similar. You tend to have to change tyres in sets of four, not in pairs. Petrol Foresters seem to be quite thirsty too, although that is not unreasonable with the turbo models.
I don't mind Yetis but I haven't recovered from the sheer awfulness of my last car (Golf) to consider buying another VAG built vehicle just yet. Yetis are much more like a 4x4 version of these cars (we use one at work) which would probably make super family cars.
I tend to agree, but they're boxy again.I don't mind Yetis but I haven't recovered from the sheer awfulness of my last car (Golf) to consider buying another VAG built vehicle just yet. Yetis are much more like a 4x4 version of these cars (we use one at work) which would probably make super family cars.
These also tend to be slow and not the most entertaining things to drive. I'm occasionally tempted to find an older version because they'd be great for lugging stuff around, but a lot of the ones that come up used have been converted to accommodate a wheelchair.
I'm not a fan of crossovers at all, although some I admit can look alright but I couldn't ever see myself having one.
Im not a lover of SUVs either, only ones I like are the silly fast and silly expensive v8 petrol ones like the x5m, Cayenne turbo etc.
My old girl had an F54 mini clubman JCW which she wanted to change as it was a manual, and she went looking for a replacement and spotted this Volvo XC90 T5. I could tell the dealer needed to get rid of it as it was a cancelled order, gave her all the waffle of the T5 engine has a very long waiting list etc, but when I checked the spec on it it was missing about 6 things I deemed as vital, so I managed to put her off.
In the end I convinced her to get an almost new GLA45 AMG for the same money as the Volvo but with an outstanding spec.
That's a crossover I can live with haha
Im not a lover of SUVs either, only ones I like are the silly fast and silly expensive v8 petrol ones like the x5m, Cayenne turbo etc.
My old girl had an F54 mini clubman JCW which she wanted to change as it was a manual, and she went looking for a replacement and spotted this Volvo XC90 T5. I could tell the dealer needed to get rid of it as it was a cancelled order, gave her all the waffle of the T5 engine has a very long waiting list etc, but when I checked the spec on it it was missing about 6 things I deemed as vital, so I managed to put her off.
In the end I convinced her to get an almost new GLA45 AMG for the same money as the Volvo but with an outstanding spec.
That's a crossover I can live with haha
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