What to buy? A3/rocco/rs250

What to buy? A3/rocco/rs250

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culpz

4,889 posts

113 months

Tuesday 16th April 2019
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J90ack said:
In all honesty, practicality isn't a huge need for me - no kids etc - just needs to get me through my 40 mile a day commute down the M4.

Can appreciate hitting it at 8/10ths down B roads is more fun and best for getting the most out the rs250, but are you saying as a daily, the scirocco/ST are better options?
Yupp, exactly. Don't get me wrong, the Megane 250/265 is one of the best front wheel drive hot-hatches that you can buy and are incredibly capable machines, but sometimes their talents can feel wasted on a mundane commute. They're not unusable, but something like those two will be a much nicer place to sit, especially the Scirocco. If I was okay with having a manual again, the Focus would be great but DSG would be my preference for the VW these days.

Work out what type of driving you do most and how often you will take it out for a proper blast. As numb and unengaging as some VAG cars can be, they do make lovely daily's and the 2.0 TSI engine is actually really good for a 4-cylinder. It's also still fun when going out for a blast but that is the Megane's forte.

vtecyo

2,122 posts

130 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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GreatGranny said:
Personally it would be the Scirocco.

Or maybe a 125i/130i/135i depending if you can find a decent one.
A Scirocco or TT was always top of the list to replace the megane with but after reading so many horror stories with that 2.0 TFSI engine I could be bothered with the worry.

J90ack

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41 posts

61 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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vtecyo said:
GreatGranny said:
Personally it would be the Scirocco.

Or maybe a 125i/130i/135i depending if you can find a decent one.
A Scirocco or TT was always top of the list to replace the megane with but after reading so many horror stories with that 2.0 TFSI engine I could be bothered with the worry.
What issues are you referring to? Have they fixed the issues in later cars? I've had a look around and most the info I've seen rates the 2.0tsi way above the 1.4, the only common issue I've come across are re the timing chain tensioner which seems to have been fixed in 59/10 onwards model's?

TJC46

2,148 posts

207 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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For what its worth i had a 2010 plate Scirocco TSI [210 bhp] Dsg and it was a great car. Purchased it at 12 months old and 10,000

miles had it 4 years, sold it at 46,000 miles ............car was perfect.

It was a pretty quick car and although i didnt thrash it......i didnt hang around in my driving style.

Absolutely no problems engine wise, it was as good when i sold it, as when i bought it.

I was so impressed with the Scirocco, i now own another one, albeit in R form and 280 BHP.

Shop around and look for a good one, there will be a few still out there, DSG would be my preference over a manual, but it would not

be a deal breaker.

culpz

4,889 posts

113 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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vtecyo said:
The 2.0 TSI unit is a pretty solid engine, on the whole. Some earlier iterations can use a bit of oil but nothing stupidly excessive. The chain-driven ones required an updated cam-chain, as they were prone to snapping, but this was rectified with the later models. Newer versions are now belt-driven anyway, I believe.

After all, the exact same engine is still being used today, albeit with very slight changes to it. It was the twin-charged 1.4 TSI which was the nightmare engine and the one to avoid.

J90ack

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41 posts

61 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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culpz said:
vtecyo said:
The 2.0 TSI unit is a pretty solid engine, on the whole. Some earlier iterations can use a bit of oil but nothing stupidly excessive. The chain-driven ones required an updated cam-chain, as they were prone to snapping, but this was rectified with the later models. Newer versions are now belt-driven anyway, I believe.

After all, the exact same engine is still being used today, albeit with very slight changes to it. It was the twin-charged 1.4 TSI which was the nightmare engine and the one to avoid.
Thanks. Think I'm swaying towards a 2.0 scirocco, will keep an eye out for one that looks in good nick, hopefully nearby.

Any tips for what to look out for/service schedule around the 60-80k mileage mark?

jam_up

159 posts

75 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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I would strongly recommend getting one with the new tensioner already installed. The first revision came around October 2010, with 2 following in 2012. Simply not worth risking with an older one as you’re risking a £2500+ layout for the engine if the chain snaps.

J90ack

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41 posts

61 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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jam_up said:
I would strongly recommend getting one with the new tensioner already installed. The first revision came around October 2010, with 2 following in 2012. Simply not worth risking with an older one as you’re risking a £2500+ layout for the engine if the chain snaps.


OK cheers - still a safe bet pre 60 reg if tensioner work done, or just generally avoid?

jam_up

159 posts

75 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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J90ack said:
OK cheers - still a safe bet pre 60 reg if tensioner work done, or just generally avoid?
Should be fine if you get it done but be warned it’s not cheap. I’ve been contemplating myself (2011 GTI owner, 1st revision) and got quotes back around £1000 due it being quite a few hours labour. The parts themselves are around £400 (ref: golfgtiforum). Tbh the 1st revision is strong and I’ve only read of one failure. Mine is currently at 93k and is running fine. But VW thought it could be improved upon further given the two further revisions in 2012...

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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The Renault is in another league to drive.

DoubleD

22,154 posts

109 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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Elatino1 said:
The Renault is in another league to drive.
Yes. If you want to cruise around get a vag or bmw. If you want the most fun then get the Renault.

culpz

4,889 posts

113 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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J90ack said:
culpz said:
vtecyo said:
The 2.0 TSI unit is a pretty solid engine, on the whole. Some earlier iterations can use a bit of oil but nothing stupidly excessive. The chain-driven ones required an updated cam-chain, as they were prone to snapping, but this was rectified with the later models. Newer versions are now belt-driven anyway, I believe.

After all, the exact same engine is still being used today, albeit with very slight changes to it. It was the twin-charged 1.4 TSI which was the nightmare engine and the one to avoid.
Thanks. Think I'm swaying towards a 2.0 scirocco, will keep an eye out for one that looks in good nick, hopefully nearby.

Any tips for what to look out for/service schedule around the 60-80k mileage mark?
There's loads of buying guides out there, but since were on PH:

https://www.pistonheads.com/features/ph-buying-gui...