Please help me. I can’t decide which track car to buy..
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Contigo said:
Elatino1 said:
He said 250bhp/ton.
Easily doable with a remap and strip out. Also no, thats not easily doable with a remap and stripping out, certainly not with the Clio anyway.
Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 18th May 12:34
how about buying a Mk3 MX5 for and supercharging it and fitting different seats.
You will pick up a nice facelift car for under £8k (or an earlier car for £3k), £5k on a corten miller supercharger. £1k on a nice Tillet B5 seat, £1k on some coilovers (although you can probably get a car with them on already), and £500 on a gcfabrications roll bar.
£12-16k should get you all you want with scope for more improvements...
You will pick up a nice facelift car for under £8k (or an earlier car for £3k), £5k on a corten miller supercharger. £1k on a nice Tillet B5 seat, £1k on some coilovers (although you can probably get a car with them on already), and £500 on a gcfabrications roll bar.
£12-16k should get you all you want with scope for more improvements...
Elatino1 said:
Contigo said:
Save the cash and get an Corsa VXR or Clio 172, you will have as much fun as a 250hp RWD car for sure.
He said 250bhp/ton.250bhp per tonne could mean a 1ltr car or a 7lt supercharged motor. It could mean physically 120bhp or 800bhp or anything. Then of course if he is only going on circuits with lots of long high speed sections he needs a bigger motor else he will struggle over 110/120mph or vice versa what’s the point of a 800+ bhp car on a really tight twisty circuit where you’d not get beyond 3rd gear.
drgoatboy said:
how about buying a Mk3 MX5 for and supercharging it and fitting different seats.
You will pick up a nice facelift car for under £8k (or an earlier car for £3k), £5k on a corten miller supercharger. £1k on a nice Tillet B5 seat, £1k on some coilovers (although you can probably get a car with them on already), and £500 on a gcfabrications roll bar.
£12-16k should get you all you want with scope for more improvements...
this.You will pick up a nice facelift car for under £8k (or an earlier car for £3k), £5k on a corten miller supercharger. £1k on a nice Tillet B5 seat, £1k on some coilovers (although you can probably get a car with them on already), and £500 on a gcfabrications roll bar.
£12-16k should get you all you want with scope for more improvements...
lowered seat is best for track and allows 6'3" to get in!
modest FI from trusted installer for reliability. wouldn't rule out turbo for track as modern spool easily, esp high revs.
Welshbeef said:
Elatino1 said:
Contigo said:
Save the cash and get an Corsa VXR or Clio 172, you will have as much fun as a 250hp RWD car for sure.
He said 250bhp/ton.250bhp per tonne could mean a 1ltr car or a 7lt supercharged motor. It could mean physically 120bhp or 800bhp or anything. Then of course if he is only going on circuits with lots of long high speed sections he needs a bigger motor else he will struggle over 110/120mph or vice versa what’s the point of a 800+ bhp car on a really tight twisty circuit where you’d not get beyond 3rd gear.
Yes a clio will be more fun than a 250bhp 1500kg car but it is unlikely to be more fun than a RWD 250bhp 1000kg car.
Not sure how you are struggling to differentiate between a RWD 250bhp/ton car and just any 250bhp RWD car.
Elatino1 said:
Oh dear. Because a standard 250bhp car is unlikely to weigh 1000kgs so is likely to be a very different vehicle to a 250bhp/ton car.
Yes a clio will be more fun than a 250bhp 1500kg car but it is unlikely to be more fun than a RWD 250bhp 1000kg car.
Not sure how you are struggling to differentiate between a RWD 250bhp/ton car and just any 250bhp RWD car.
No it wouldn’t be a 250bhp 1.5 tonne red car it would be a 375bhp motor which would yield 250bhp per tonne. Yes a clio will be more fun than a 250bhp 1500kg car but it is unlikely to be more fun than a RWD 250bhp 1000kg car.
Not sure how you are struggling to differentiate between a RWD 250bhp/ton car and just any 250bhp RWD car.
321boost said:
If you want to go down the modified route then how about an 86 with a kit from fensport?
It’s light (1275kg), stage 2 can give you 320 bhp and that fits your 250bhp per tonne criteria. It’s a rwd and somewhat rare.
what is an 86? It’s light (1275kg), stage 2 can give you 320 bhp and that fits your 250bhp per tonne criteria. It’s a rwd and somewhat rare.
Edited by 321boost on Saturday 18th May 02:10
Welshbeef said:
Are 4 wheel drive cars as much fun on a track for a novice?
Surely the OPs MO (1st post too) is to have fun on the track. We don’t know how much cub or how little he has done before ability frequency if he intends to enter any racing or simply turn up at tracks to race
I have done many track days in lots of different front wheel drive cars i have owned so feel i have done that now. Surely the OPs MO (1st post too) is to have fun on the track. We don’t know how much cub or how little he has done before ability frequency if he intends to enter any racing or simply turn up at tracks to race
(focus rs mk2 MP350, clio 200RS)
I sold my golf 7R daily last year and am now in an M140i. I would like the track car to be at least as fast as this hence the 250bhp per tonne needed
Jaybmw said:
At 6ft3 you've no hope in a mx5 or mr2. Mate has a turbo here and it's tight and I'm just 511. But that's not my concern, the mr2 is a nightmare handling wise. Your best option is a e46 m3 for 10kish and throw a few k at it
I used to Own an mr2 mk2 turbo and they are surprisingly roomy inside. I had inches of headroom to spare even wearing a helmettommy10101 said:
I have done many track days in lots of different front wheel drive cars i have owned so feel i have done that now.
(focus rs mk2 MP350, clio 200RS)
I sold my golf 7R daily last year and am now in an M140i. I would like the track car to be at least as fast as this hence the 250bhp per tonne needed
Half that bhp/ton in a lotus variant or caterfield would destroy a m140i(focus rs mk2 MP350, clio 200RS)
I sold my golf 7R daily last year and am now in an M140i. I would like the track car to be at least as fast as this hence the 250bhp per tonne needed
drgoatboy said:
how about buying a Mk3 MX5 for and supercharging it and fitting different seats.
You will pick up a nice facelift car for under £8k (or an earlier car for £3k), £5k on a corten miller supercharger. £1k on a nice Tillet B5 seat, £1k on some coilovers (although you can probably get a car with them on already), and £500 on a gcfabrications roll bar.
£12-16k should get you all you want with scope for more improvements...
i did think very hard about the Mx5. But in the end i decided it was too common and not special enoughYou will pick up a nice facelift car for under £8k (or an earlier car for £3k), £5k on a corten miller supercharger. £1k on a nice Tillet B5 seat, £1k on some coilovers (although you can probably get a car with them on already), and £500 on a gcfabrications roll bar.
£12-16k should get you all you want with scope for more improvements...
Zoobeef said:
Half that bhp/ton in a lotus variant or caterfield would destroy a m140i
My local race track is Castle Combe. It is one of the fastest in the country and needs decent power to be fast. A 200bhp per tonne caterham would be running out of puff quite early down the main straight
I am really leaning towards the Mr2 or a Norris designs evo. Its really interesting reading all the suggestions. TY!
Vx220 turbo with remap. (or one thats been supercharged) You should fit in (I did at 6ft5) and has plenty of grunt on the straights.
You would fit in Elise but unlikely to get one grunty enough for your tastes at your budget.
Or just go buy that MR2 sounds like you have your heart set on one anyways
You would fit in Elise but unlikely to get one grunty enough for your tastes at your budget.
Or just go buy that MR2 sounds like you have your heart set on one anyways
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