"Drivers Car" under 25k
Discussion
Taigaiko said:
what would you say is better out of the rx-7 and rx-8? I love the looks of the rx7 and I've heard the engine in the rx8 needs changing every 1000 miles 
RX7 all day. All rotaries need to be looked after.I may have missed it but would this be your only car or just a weekend/track toy? Do you want FWD/AWD/RWD? Turbo? NA?
There are some excellent suggestions in this thread. if i had 25k and i wanted a good all round car (rather than just a stripped out track toy)...
BMW M3 of some variety
A variety of porsche
RX7
Mitsi Evo
R32 Skyline GTR
Renault megane RS280
the list could go on and on.....
Christmassss said:
Taigaiko said:
what would you say is better out of the rx-7 and rx-8? I love the looks of the rx7 and I've heard the engine in the rx8 needs changing every 1000 miles
RX7 all day. All rotaries need to be looked after.I may have missed it but would this be your only car or just a weekend/track toy? Do you want FWD/AWD/RWD? Turbo? NA?
There are some excellent suggestions in this thread. if i had 25k and i wanted a good all round car (rather than just a stripped out track toy)...
BMW M3 of some variety
A variety of porsche
RX7
Mitsi Evo
R32 Skyline GTR
Renault megane RS280
the list could go on and on.....
According the Evo Magazine....this is the 5th best drivers car in the world (in 2009)
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Renault-Megane-RENAULTS...
So there we go, decision made!
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Renault-Megane-RENAULTS...
So there we go, decision made!
RobM77 said:
Ston said:
Is an Exige S or Elise S3 worth 10/15k more than a 370z Nismo? I'm in a similar situation and the 370Z Nismo seems appealing. Although I try and avoid it, lots of paths lead back to it. Rear wheel drive, manual box, hydraulic steering for a more connected feeling. It's a bit porky though and would struggle on track days. The Lotus cars would take a track day in their stride.
I must confess with the 350Z the lack of steering feel was my main criticism; in my opinion at least the steering was just heavy and dead. I've driven plenty of ePAS cars with better feel. The handling was good, engine strong, but I also felt it was more of a GT than a sports car; I think the platform sharing didn't do it any favours in terms of weight and size. 370Z similar? Or were they better?Johnniem said:
Ahbefive said:
Johnniem said:
Porsche Cayman. End of thread.
Lovely car but don't expect a gen 1 to handle track days without becoming a smokey mess.cerb4.5lee said:
RobM77 said:
Ston said:
Is an Exige S or Elise S3 worth 10/15k more than a 370z Nismo? I'm in a similar situation and the 370Z Nismo seems appealing. Although I try and avoid it, lots of paths lead back to it. Rear wheel drive, manual box, hydraulic steering for a more connected feeling. It's a bit porky though and would struggle on track days. The Lotus cars would take a track day in their stride.
I must confess with the 350Z the lack of steering feel was my main criticism; in my opinion at least the steering was just heavy and dead. I've driven plenty of ePAS cars with better feel. The handling was good, engine strong, but I also felt it was more of a GT than a sports car; I think the platform sharing didn't do it any favours in terms of weight and size. 370Z similar? Or were they better?
Generally, yes, hydraulic is better on feel than ePAS. There is some overlap though; the 350Z was so devoid of feel that I prefer a good ePAS system.Tickle said:
Taigaiko said:
Bit of a tangent but the Zenos E10 caught my eye - Any good?
A friend has one, great car, fast too. Different than an Elise in that it's not quite as practical (not that my S1 is) and the characteristics of that ecoboost turbo engine.
Taigaiko said:
Tickle said:
Taigaiko said:
I'll bring a bin bag with me everywhere :P
I really think this is the one, pretty unique
https://www.levencarcompany.co.uk/zenos-e10-2-0I really think this is the one, pretty unique
Taigaiko said:
Thanks! little bit far away from me though so I'll look around and see if there's any closer
You may have to travel to buy a very rare car, a few hours travel is insignificant over how long you own a car (unless you get pissed off with it in a few weeks!).They have a get-me-home style hood.
OP, the Zenos needs plenty of thought. This is what Clarkson said about it in his review in the Sunday Times (Google is your friend)...
"Its designers have looked at every detail of what isn’t needed and simply thrown it away. Which means it has no doors, no windows, no sun visors, no radio, no carpets and no roof of any kind. I have encountered better-equipped pencils.
...the noise was fun for about a minute and then not fun at all thereafter. The exhaust bark is tremendous, but all you can hear really is the wastegate, which sounds like a fat man who’s using Victorian plumbing to flush away the after-effects of a particularly enormous dinner.
The steering became wearing too because it’s unassisted and very fidgety. It’s not as bad as the setup in an Alfa Romeo 4C, but it’s quite draining nevertheless.
And then, I’m afraid, we come to what might fairly be described as the turd in the swimming pool. The brakes. In a car with not much weight at the sharp end, the front wheels have a tendency to lock up. See the original Lancia Montecarlo for details."
The 987.2 Cayman S is worth considering as it has a roof, is an exceptional drive, is mid-engined, is in your price range, wont lose money hand over fist and you will love it. No doubt about that. Get the flappy paddle PDK version, it is a hoot! One of the best gearboxes on the planet!
"Its designers have looked at every detail of what isn’t needed and simply thrown it away. Which means it has no doors, no windows, no sun visors, no radio, no carpets and no roof of any kind. I have encountered better-equipped pencils.
...the noise was fun for about a minute and then not fun at all thereafter. The exhaust bark is tremendous, but all you can hear really is the wastegate, which sounds like a fat man who’s using Victorian plumbing to flush away the after-effects of a particularly enormous dinner.
The steering became wearing too because it’s unassisted and very fidgety. It’s not as bad as the setup in an Alfa Romeo 4C, but it’s quite draining nevertheless.
And then, I’m afraid, we come to what might fairly be described as the turd in the swimming pool. The brakes. In a car with not much weight at the sharp end, the front wheels have a tendency to lock up. See the original Lancia Montecarlo for details."
The 987.2 Cayman S is worth considering as it has a roof, is an exceptional drive, is mid-engined, is in your price range, wont lose money hand over fist and you will love it. No doubt about that. Get the flappy paddle PDK version, it is a hoot! One of the best gearboxes on the planet!
Johnniem said:
OP, the Zenos needs plenty of thought. This is what Clarkson said about it in his review in the Sunday Times (Google is your friend)...
"Its designers have looked at every detail of what isn’t needed and simply thrown it away. Which means it has no doors, no windows, no sun visors, no radio, no carpets and no roof of any kind. I have encountered better-equipped pencils.
...the noise was fun for about a minute and then not fun at all thereafter. The exhaust bark is tremendous, but all you can hear really is the wastegate, which sounds like a fat man who’s using Victorian plumbing to flush away the after-effects of a particularly enormous dinner.
The steering became wearing too because it’s unassisted and very fidgety. It’s not as bad as the setup in an Alfa Romeo 4C, but it’s quite draining nevertheless.
And then, I’m afraid, we come to what might fairly be described as the turd in the swimming pool. The brakes. In a car with not much weight at the sharp end, the front wheels have a tendency to lock up. See the original Lancia Montecarlo for details."
The 987.2 Cayman S is worth considering as it has a roof, is an exceptional drive, is mid-engined, is in your price range, wont lose money hand over fist and you will love it. No doubt about that. Get the flappy paddle PDK version, it is a hoot! One of the best gearboxes on the planet!
Get a manual if you like driving "Its designers have looked at every detail of what isn’t needed and simply thrown it away. Which means it has no doors, no windows, no sun visors, no radio, no carpets and no roof of any kind. I have encountered better-equipped pencils.
...the noise was fun for about a minute and then not fun at all thereafter. The exhaust bark is tremendous, but all you can hear really is the wastegate, which sounds like a fat man who’s using Victorian plumbing to flush away the after-effects of a particularly enormous dinner.
The steering became wearing too because it’s unassisted and very fidgety. It’s not as bad as the setup in an Alfa Romeo 4C, but it’s quite draining nevertheless.
And then, I’m afraid, we come to what might fairly be described as the turd in the swimming pool. The brakes. In a car with not much weight at the sharp end, the front wheels have a tendency to lock up. See the original Lancia Montecarlo for details."
The 987.2 Cayman S is worth considering as it has a roof, is an exceptional drive, is mid-engined, is in your price range, wont lose money hand over fist and you will love it. No doubt about that. Get the flappy paddle PDK version, it is a hoot! One of the best gearboxes on the planet!
Or get a lotus evora/elise/ something lighter if you want better steering feel
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