Is there a better value than this coupe? Doesn't look like.

[Shifter1]

Deep Thought said:

Jeez.

This is a forum predominantly used by UK people. If you're not in the UK and have different pricing / availability of cars then fine.

Are the cars you suggested all the same price as a base Crossfire in the UK? I would be surprised. But I didn't check.

Edited by Shifter1 on Monday 24th February 10:58

[Deep Thought]

Shifter1 said:

So stop throwing sarcastic remarks at him criticizing him for not wanting your suggestions.

(a) Who died and made you Forum God?

(b) I've replied with sarcasm because the O/P has started replying to my posts with misquotes, sarcasm and hysteria.

(c) I havent criticised him for not wanting my suggestions.

[talksthetorque]

Shifter1 said:

Deep Thought said:

NI is part of the UK and we drive on the left here too.

What is your point? I live in Europe. I said the cars you suggested are much more expensive than a Crossfire here. You told me to travel. Traveling in the country won't help find them for cheaper. Unless I go buy in the UK. By then, importing fees and transport will probably eat any savings.

You might want to update your profile which says you are in the UK.

[Deep Thought]

Shifter1 said:

Deep Thought said:

Jeez.

This is a forum predominantly used by UK people. If you're not in the UK and have different pricing / availability of cars then fine.

Are the cars you suggested all the same price as a base Crossfire in the UK? I would be surprised. But I didn't check.

Crossfire £3K. Some of my choices are avail for that, some a bit more. You could get a z4 3.0i for £3K ish probably. Most would be £4K ish. I'd be fairly confident the right £4-5K car would suffer as little depreciation as a £3K Chrysler.

[Shifter1]

talksthetorque said:

You might want to update your profile which says you are in the UK.

I might be back soon and am there often enough.

[Shifter1]

Deep Thought said:

Crossfire £3K. Some of my choices are avail for that, some a bit more. You could get a z4 3.0i for £3K ish probably. Most would be £4K ish. I'd be fairly confident the right £4-5K car would suffer as little depreciation as a £3K Chrysler.

Z4 coupe for that price?

Edited by Shifter1 on Monday 24th February 10:59

[Phil Dicky]

Shifter1 said:

Phil Dicky said:

If the OP wants a good looking car, a better drive than a Crossfire and more practical then Mazda RX8 is an option. Needs one with an engine rebuild though, but easily within 3k.

Yes but the RX8 will be a lot more expensive to run. So the money you save upfront will be spent multiple times. In the end considering the RX8 cheap is an illusion. Believe me, I recently looked deeply into it.

Having owned one I totally disagree....taking an engine refurb out if the equation ( I did suggest buying one with a rebuild) fuel will be marginally worse, however reliability much better. Driving experience head and shoulders above a Crossfire. As a point to point car they are very very good.

[Deep Thought]

Shifter1 said:

Deep Thought said:

Crossfire £3K. Some of my choices are avail for that, some a bit more. You could get a z4 3.0i for £3K ish probably. Most would be £4K ish. I'd be fairly confident the right £4-5K car would suffer as little depreciation as a £3K Chrysler.

Z4 coupe for that price?

No. Z4 convertible. Could be got with a hard top if required.

[Shifter1]

Phil Dicky said:

Having owned one I totally disagree....taking an engine refurb out if the equation ( I did suggest buying one with a rebuild) fuel will be marginally worse, however reliability much better. Driving experience head and shoulders above a Crossfire. As a point to point car they are very very good.

Reliability much better than what? Mercedes? And RX8 rust a lot too.

A RX8 with a recent engine rebuild will certainly cost more than a Crosffire? Unless buying from a friend.

[Shifter1]

Deep Thought said:

(a) Who died and made you Forum God?

(b) I've replied with sarcasm because the O/P has started replying to my posts with misquotes, sarcasm and hysteria.

(c) I havent criticised him for not wanting my suggestions.

This is going in circles.

[Shifter1]

Deep Thought said:

No. Z4 convertible. Could be got with a hard top if required.

See. He asked coupe. This is what I don't understand. He comes and asks for something. People go, yes there is, and proceed to suggesting things that are not what he asked. Like the guy who suggested a turbo MX5. Might as well suggest a motorcycle.

[Deep Thought]

Shifter1 said:

Deep Thought said:

(a) Who died and made you Forum God?

(b) I've replied with sarcasm because the O/P has started replying to my posts with misquotes, sarcasm and hysteria.

(c) I havent criticised him for not wanting my suggestions.

This is going in circles.

Indeed it is, yes. You keep banging the same drum.

[Shifter1]

Deep Thought said:

NI is part of the UK and we drive on the left here too.

Are cars as cheap in NI as they are in England? Being LHD maybe they cost more because they must come from here? As much rust too?

[Deep Thought]

Shifter1 said:

Deep Thought said:

No. Z4 convertible. Could be got with a hard top if required.

See. He asked coupe. This is what I don't understand. He comes and asks for something. People go, yes there is, and proceed to suggesting things that are not what he asked. Like the guy who suggested a turbo MX5. Might as well suggest a motorcycle.

"sigh"

I keep saying - my original suggestions gave a range of cars some of which that would require and element of compromise, BUT as i pointed out, the Crossfire is a compromised car also.

If the O/P MUST have a RWD 6 cylinder coupe for £3K then the Crossfire is the car for him. Merely throwing out options IF he is prepared to compromise a little on budget OR bodytype OR drivetrain.

If hes already driven a 3.0i Z4 and ruled it out for whatever reason then fine, if not, it might be worth a test drive.

[Shifter1]

Deep Thought said:

Indeed it is, yes. You keep banging the same drum.

Yes, only I.

[Deep Thought]

Shifter1 said:

Deep Thought said:

NI is part of the UK and we drive on the left here too.

Are cars as cheap in NI as they are in England? Being LHD maybe they cost more because they must come from here? As much rust too?

For the avoidance of doubt - we drive on the left, which means the cars are RHD.

Car prices vary greatly across all of the UK. I wouldnt rule out jumping on a plane for the right car and ferrying it home.

[Deep Thought]

Shifter1 said:

Deep Thought said:

Indeed it is, yes. You keep banging the same drum.

Yes, only I.

Personally, i'm pitching for "learning by repetition".

[Shifter1]

Deep Thought said:

"sigh"

I keep saying - my original suggestions gave a range of cars some of which that would require and element of compromise, BUT as i pointed out, the Crossfire is a compromised car also.

If the O/P MUST have a RWD 6 cylinder coupe for £3K then the Crossfire is the car for him. Merely throwing out options IF he is prepared to compromise a little on budget OR bodytype OR drivetrain.

If hes already driven a 3.0i Z4 and ruled it out for whatever reason then fine, if not, it might be worth a test drive.

Ok but this was his question:

CM2020 said:

So from where I'm standing the Crossfire is the best value for the money right now. Or is there anything else that offers RWD, exotic coupe sports car style, larger than 4 pot, as much power and even a manual for the same price or less?

Why assume he is interested in range when he is so specific?

[Phil Dicky]

Shifter1 said:

Phil Dicky said:

Having owned one I totally disagree....taking an engine refurb out if the equation ( I did suggest buying one with a rebuild) fuel will be marginally worse, however reliability much better. Driving experience head and shoulders above a Crossfire. As a point to point car they are very very good.

Reliability much better than what? Mercedes? And RX8 rust a lot too.

A RX8 with a recent engine rebuild will certainly cost more than a Crosffire? Unless buying from a friend.

Will agree I'm 1k out..oddly not dropped much in price last couple of years.



I just found a great car on Auto Trader.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2019...

[Shifter1]

Phil Dicky said:

Will agree I'm 1k out..oddly not dropped much in price last couple of years.



I just found a great car on Auto Trader.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2019...

Interesting indeed. But does the waiting on engine rebuild rubs you the wrong way?