Is there a better value than this coupe? Doesn't look like.

[CM2020]

RX8. Nice nice nice. Had one. Sold because it was a money pit. I think might have been the most I spent to keep a car. Cost me more than a Crossfire to buy as well.

[Deep Thought]

Shifter1 said:

Deep Thought said:

"sigh"

I keep saying - my original suggestions gave a range of cars some of which that would require and element of compromise, BUT as i pointed out, the Crossfire is a compromised car also.

If the O/P MUST have a RWD 6 cylinder coupe for £3K then the Crossfire is the car for him. Merely throwing out options IF he is prepared to compromise a little on budget OR bodytype OR drivetrain.

If hes already driven a 3.0i Z4 and ruled it out for whatever reason then fine, if not, it might be worth a test drive.

Ok but this was his question:

CM2020 said:

So from where I'm standing the Crossfire is the best value for the money right now. Or is there anything else that offers RWD, exotic coupe sports car style, larger than 4 pot, as much power and even a manual for the same price or less?

Why assume he is interested in range when he is so specific?

Because when i posted it originally, i didnt know there was totally no flexibility on budget, bodystyling or drivetrain.

I've read and been involved with many threads on here. Often when people post about wanting a specific car, someone will say, "well you say you want this, however however have you thought about one of these?" and it may be an option they hadnt considered.

Thats what i was doing. Those are the cars i personally would consider if i was in a "similar" market. I wouldnt be that precious about it being a coupe - having owned a Z4 3.0Si coupe and a 370Z GT coupe, the fixed top can be a bit restrictive.

If he wants to not consider / ignore or has already considered those other options then fine, no problem to me

[Deep Thought]

CM2020 said:

RX8. Nice nice nice. Had one. Sold because it was a money pit. I think might have been the most I spent to keep a car. Cost me more than a Crossfire to buy as well.

What about a 330Ci Sport coupe?

In budget, 3 litre, RWD, coupe.

I've the saloon variant currently. Great car.

[CM2020]

Deep Thought said:

What about a 330Ci Sport coupe?

In budget, 3 litre, RWD, coupe.

I've the saloon variant currently. Great car.

I'm now even afraid to say it, as being specific seems illegal here.LOL But I asked for coupe sports car. 330 is a common car like the Alfa GT. Otherwise you can buy several other 2 doors BMWs. But this is not the style of car.

[Fermit and Sexy Sarah]

Looking on a certain trader site, selecting coupe, above 3 litre, cheapest first. The cheapest semi modern I can see is a Peugeot 407 3.0 V6 at £1089, then a 350z Nissan at £1500. The cheapest Crossfire is £1750. I'd prefer the 350, but not the Peugeot. The Crossfire does very little for me. In fairness, I suspect the Pug is FWD, I don't know though, it's not a car I care for.

So, to my mind, yes it's up there, but you can find other things of a similar ilk for a little less if you look.

Edited by Fermit and Sexy Sarah on Monday 24th February 11:24

[talksthetorque]

Mods - can we rephrase the Title please.

I suggest

Is there a better Chrysler Crossfire than the Chrysler Crossfire?

[Mack11]

I read this whole thread thinking someone would put up a cool picture of said car, but had to google it...probably a thousands words paint a picture.

I think OP would better calling it the "cheapest rwd coupe manual" as VFM has to include depreciation, tax, service and running costs inc parts. If everyone on PH states that MX5 or Z4 coupe are the best, then the VFM goes up as it is more likely to be in demand.

[Deep Thought]

talksthetorque said:

Mods - can we rephrase the Title please.

I suggest

Is there a better Chrysler Crossfire than the Chrysler Crossfire?

I think you've nailed it.

When you apply the criteria -

• Must be £3,000 or less
• Must be RWD
• Must be a coupe
• Must not be available in cooking trim levels / engine sizes.
• Must not be as heavy as a Nissan 350Z
• Must not be a Mazda RX8

Then theres no other choice.

Oh well, each to their own.

I'm out.

Enjoy your Crossfire O/P

Edited by Deep Thought on Monday 24th February 11:27

[otolith]

CM2020 said:

Probably because of Clarkson.

Unfortunately, once he said it, it could not be unseen.

[Shifter1]

talksthetorque said:

Mods - can we rephrase the Title please.

I suggest

Is there a better Chrysler Crossfire than the Chrysler Crossfire?

This is what I mean. Useless reply just to steer the pot.

A Z4 coupe is exactly the same type of car for example. More than 4 cylinders, coupe sports car, RWD etc. It just costs a lot more. So implying that what he asked doesn't exist outside of a Crossfire is trolling. He just asked if the Crossfire was the cheapest of them.

[Pulse00]

Shifter1 are you OP's dad?

[Shifter1]

Deep Thought said:

I think you've nailed it.

When you apply the criteria -

• Must be £3,000 or less
• Must be RWD
• Must be a coupe
• Must not be available in cooking trim levels / engine sizes.
• Must not be as heavy as a Nissan 350Z
• Must not be a Mazda RX8

Then theres no other choice.

Oh well, each to their own.

I'm out.

Enjoy your Crossfire O/P

Edited by Deep Thought on Monday 24th February 11:27

See you are at it again. Pointless sarcasm to dismiss the OP's legit question. He never said it couldn't be a RX8, or that it must not be as heavy as the 350Z. I guess the problem with the 350Z is the higher price. Even if you can find high mileage bang up ones for near.

This is what I was talking about concerning your replies. It's hard to believe you actually wanted to help with childish posts like that.

[Deep Thought]

Shifter1 said:

talksthetorque said:

Mods - can we rephrase the Title please.

I suggest

Is there a better Chrysler Crossfire than the Chrysler Crossfire?

This is what I mean. Useless reply just to steer the pot.

A Z4 coupe is exactly the same type of car for example. More than 4 cylinders, coupe sports car, RWD etc. It just costs a lot more. So implying that what he asked doesn't exist outside of a Crossfire is trolling. He just asked if the Crossfire was the cheapest of them.

It doesnt though? Because his criteria includes must be the same price as a Crossfire or cheaper?

So hes automatically ruling that out?

The O/P has hammered home the point that it cant be more expensive than a Crossfire. Hes not flexible on budget, RWD, coupe and needs to be "exotic". Hes ruled out the other obvious choice - the 350Z as its too heavy and the RX8 as its unreliable.

So its back to hes set a criteria that only a Crossfire can meet - hence the tongue in cheek comment "is there a better Chrysler Crossfire out there than a Chrysler Crossfire?"

I dont think its a useless reply - i think its bang on the money.

[Deep Thought]

Shifter1 said:

See you are at it again. Pointless sarcasm to dismiss the OP's legit question. He never said it couldn't be a RX8, or that it must not be as heavy as the 350Z. I guess the problem with the 350Z is the higher price. Even if you can find high mileage bang up ones for near.

This is what I was talking about concerning your replies. It's hard to believe you actually wanted to help with childish posts like that.

Its not pointless sarcasm - its a series of statements. Its not at all sarcastic.

The O/P told us he ruled out the 350Z because it was too heavy, and has all but ruled out the RX8 as he had one before and it was a money pit?

The 350Z i posted was outside the O/Ps budget (but by less than £1,000) but had low miles.

I wanted to help when i thought the O/P wanted help. It turns out he just wants affirmation that for his very specific criteria the Crossfire is the right choice for him. We've told him it is - for that criteria.

[Deep Thought]

Pulse00 said:

Shifter1 are you OP's dad?

I'm starting to think so.

[Shifter1]

Pulse00 said:

Shifter1 are you OP's dad?

Not as far as I know. But then again, one can never be too sure.

But honestly, it just this mentality here that is truly annoying.

On PH all the great cars and the horrible ones are already decided. All by people who have never driven all of them, let alone owned them. It's always the same.

Saw the guy who suggested the turbo MX5 in a 6 cylinders coupe thread? It's the one size fits all and if you disagree you are treated like an idiot.

Sorry if I feel like standing up to that silly notion.

[Shifter1]

Deep Thought said:

It doesnt though? Because his criteria includes must be the same price as a Crossfire or cheaper?

So hes automatically ruling that out?

The O/P has hammered home the point that it cant be more expensive than a Crossfire. Hes not flexible on budget, RWD, coupe and needs to be "exotic". Hes ruled out the other obvious choice - the 350Z as its too heavy and the RX8 as its unreliable.

So its back to hes set a criteria that only a Crossfire can meet - hence the tongue in cheek comment "is there a better Chrysler Crossfire out there than a Chrysler Crossfire?"

I dont think its a useless reply - i think its bang on the money.

It doesn't what? If the Z4 coupe would cost the same or less it would definitely be in. Sorry if the man has a budget. Jeez

[Deep Thought]

Shifter1 said:

Not as far as I know. But then again, one can never be too sure.

But honestly, it just this mentality here that is truly annoying.

On PH all the great cars and the horrible ones are already decided. All by people who have never driven all of them, let alone owned them. It's always the same.

Saw the guy who suggested the turbo MX5 in a 6 cylinders coupe thread? It's the one size fits all and if you disagree you are treated like an idiot.

Sorry if I feel like standing up to that silly notion.

I think you're taking comments that were meant as throw away statements or tongue in cheek comments as literal.

I wouldnt want an MR2 Turbo personally, but i'm not offended at its suggestion as you seem to be.

I dont think the Crossfire is a horrible car. I dont think its a great one either.

If the O/P has his heart set on one and gets a good one for his budget, then great. I will congratulate him for that.

[Deep Thought]

Shifter1 said:

It doesn't what? If the Z4 coupe would cost the same or less it would definitely be in. Sorry if the man has a budget. Jeez

Missing the point

You objected to not including the Z4 relative to the Crossfire quip as it was "implying the Z4 coupe doesnt exist"

As far as the O/P is concerned, it doesnt. Its not within his very specific parameters.

Hes set his parameters so that only a Crossfire can meet it.

[Shifter1]

Deep Thought said:

Its not pointless sarcasm - its a series of statements. Its not at all sarcastic.

The O/P told us he ruled out the 350Z because it was too heavy, and has all but ruled out the RX8 as he had one before and it was a money pit?

The 350Z i posted was outside the O/Ps budget (but by less than £1,000) but had low miles.

I wanted to help when i thought the O/P wanted help. It turns out he just wants affirmation that for his very specific criteria the Crossfire is the right choice for him. We've told him it is - for that criteria.

Jeez, the 350Z is more expensive. Not even in the run. And yes, it's a heavy car. If he had a RX8 and didn't like it, he can't want something different? Why you just don't say you want to nag? Jesus, you are a time waster.