What’s your best price?

[anonymous-user]

surveyor said:

I feel sorry for the dealer!

You need to make them work for it :-)

I read some dealers on here (and other forums) giving punters the big shove off. I think the issue nowadays is distance selling is so popular. I know its difficult to tell the wheat from the chaff but some simply can't be arsed I've found. I think they'd rather Mrs Miggins just came in, in person and got mugged off than having to distance sell a car and all the genuine questions that comes with it.

[DuraAce]

slowpeddler65 said:

Just adding to my post above.

I'm currently giving a dealer the runaround....

Unless that's a car worth well into 5 figures I feel really sorry for the car dealer.

If you want a new car then buy one. Used cars come with a few issues/a bit of history.... That's why they are much cheaper!

[HTP99]

slowpeddler65 said:

surveyor said:

I feel sorry for the dealer!

You need to make them work for it :-)

I read some dealers on here (and other forums) giving punters the big shove off. I think the issue nowadays is distance selling is so popular. I know its difficult to tell the wheat from the chaff but some simply can't be arsed I've found. I think they'd rather Mrs Miggins just came in, in person and got mugged off than having to distance sell a car and all the genuine questions that comes with it.

Maybe the dink has been sorted.

You sound like a nightmare by the way and someone who most would do their best to avoid.

[anonymous-user]

HTP99 said:

Maybe the dink has been sorted.

You sound like a nightmare by the way and someone who most would do their best to avoid.

Are you a dealer then ?

Just asking as that's how I've been buying cars for the last 38 years....as a punter the world's your oyster...not the other way around.

[anonymous-user]

DuraAce said:

Unless that's a car worth well into 5 figures I feel really sorry for the car dealer.

If you want a new car then buy one. Used cars come with a few issues/a bit of history.... That's why they are much cheaper!

You feel sorry for a company who just turned over £3 billion a year in profits ? The car value is immaterial.

Its on an Audi forecourt, at Audi inflated prices at a dealership where theres more glass and marble than you'd see in a Hollywood Hotel.

I'd gladly give them the runaround (as you suggested) to get it sorted, yet you feel sorry for them.

(to make it clear this guy quoted and edited my second post for comedy value, not the one with the link)

Edited by slowpeddler65 on Friday 17th July 21:31

[joropug]

I'm selling a load of stuff on gumtree at the moment. This is the kind of Shi* I have been getting daily.

[England87]

It’s not much easier buying. Had been in conversation with a private seller on a car, few normal questions I’d asked about the history and seller was taking over 12 hours between replies. I then tried to arrange to see the car which took a bit of work to line up a friend to give me a lift and the seller the day before just said “sorry now busy this weekend” and never heard anymore, bizarre. Still for sale.

[mcg_]

slowpeddler65 said:

Just adding to my post above.

I'm currently negotiating on a car hundreds of miles away

I got them to send me a copy of the service book, I asked for tyre tread, disc and pad wear and lots of photos. This lot played ball because they wanted to sell the car. On the pics I saw both front alloys had been slightly kerbed and pointed that out.

Dealer sends it to alloy shop. I google it and ring them. They have a decent reputation but tell me something about the door and they 'can't fix that'. They then go all shy on me.

I contact the dealer who say bodywork is uptogether - didn't want to breach the confidence of the alloy / dealer relationship so noted it.

I contacted the garage who did the last service and made sure they were genuine and got copy of the receipts. From the receipt I got a contact number for the previous owner. I contacted them and got more information than the dealer would ever give. Well looked after, no stone chips, bodywork and Interior in excellent condition and one Interesting thing - it had a dink on it where it was hit by a cricket ball.

Back to the dealer - new pads and discs fitted, tyres 4 mm all round so asked 'about the dink'.....no comment. Asked for 'dink' to be sorted and for some decent pictures to prove it.

I still haven't put a deposit on it.

To me that's basic stuff, if dealers don't want to do their job and be honest they get binned, there are plenty of cars out there.

I bet you don't buy it.

[anonymous-user]

mcg_ said:

I bet you don't buy it.

It will be a wasted 10 hour return journey if I don't. Hence I need some assurances, pictures, paperwork and more pictures.

[England87]

I have bought remotely from dealers before, a few questions then agreeing on a price before travelling there. Much easier to do this with dealers from experience and the best was Volvo, really good service.

[CheesecakeRunner]

DuraAce said:

slowpeddler65 said:

Just adding to my post above.

I'm currently giving a dealer the runaround....

Unless that's a car worth well into 5 figures I feel really sorry for the car dealer.

If you want a new car then buy one. Used cars come with a few issues/a bit of history.... That's why they are much cheaper!

Of course used cars come with issues and history. But if you can’t view it in person, and the dealer is happy to do a distance sale, it’s not unreasonable to ask questions to establish what those issues and history are, and what you want to pay as a result of them. The sooner car dealers get with the idea of distance selling and modern communication methods, the better.

[Richtea1970]

I buy a lot of stuff on FB and Gumtree and love a haggle. But I’d never send a ‘best price’ message.
You get there, check that it’s what you want and then ‘negotiations’ commence. I know people are saying ‘pay cash’ is like some underhand tactic but you’d be surprised how often people soften their stance when you pull a wad of notes out, you don’t get that impact using PayPal or a bank transfer.

[anonymous-user]

Had a very low offer when selling my EP3. He didn't do the best price thing, but he did say this when I wouldn't cut my price in half "Come on man, I work at Tesco, you work at xxxxxx". Basically he thought I should give him charity Lesson learnt, do not tell people your occupation if asked.

At this point I asked him to get out of the car and leave (he was in the driver's seat with keys to make things worse). He'd come with 2 mates from London, about 3 hours away. Somehow it was my fault he had wasted his time coming such a long distance to make a silly offer. They were also late so they were viewing the car with phone torches He wasn't very happy about being asked to leave, and with it being 3 vs. 1 I felt pretty exposed, but they did eventually go.

[ClaphamGT3]

England87 said:

I have bought remotely from dealers before, a few questions then agreeing on a price before travelling there. Much easier to do this with dealers from experience and the best was Volvo, really good service.

I bought our family XC90 from a Volvo dealer. Don't usually buy from franchise dealers but they had the car I wanted at a reasonably sensible price. They were in the Midlands. They were perfectly professional and reasonable to deal with but a number of things struck me about their approach that tells me a lot about how people buy cars from dealers these days. Firstly, they were surprised that I actually wanted to come and see it rather than buy a £30k car from a dozen photos and a video filmed on an iPad. Secondly, they were surprised that I wanted to test drive it. Most XC90 buyers don't apparently and almost none who already have one. Thirdly they were *really* surprised that, on the test drive, I wanted to systematically check that everything worked. Fourthly, they were surprised that I wanted to go through the service history in detail rather than glance at two stamps in a service book and be fobbed off with the old "it's a Volvo Selekt vehicle Sir, that means it's effectively new!" And finally they were surprised that I haggled on the basis of things that were actually wrong with the car (had new rear tyres coming up, had some scuffs on the rear boot cill, had had a small smart repair to one of the wheel arches) rather than in some sort of baseless Turkish bazar haggle.

[A1VDY]

We spoke to someone yesterday looking at a Zafira 7 seater. This lady had just bought one from a dealer in Eisbech around 70 miles from us. A 62plate 1. 8 petrol for £3500. 130k, scuffed in various places, front grille wedged in place as all the clips were broken, scruffy uncleaned interior,two tyres on the limit, 18'' crack in the n/s of the screen and a faulty battery which she had to replace the day she had the car.
Bought over the net and delivered to her doorstep. The two guys delivering the car handed her the keys and quickly disappeared.
The car she was looking at on our site, fully prepared 10plate in black, 86k miles, 3 months warranty.. £1200.

[Richtea1970]

A1VDY said:

The car she was looking at on our site, fully prepared 10plate in black, 86k miles, 3 months warranty.. £1200.

£1200? That’s about a grand cheaper than anything similar on AT, no wonder they weren’t haggling.

[G111MDS]

Pig benis said:

I recently sold my BMW 330D E91 to a car trader. Honestly, he was the easiest person I've ever sold a car too.

His messages were written very well, sent a £500 deposit (before collection), turned up on time, didn't haggle while at my house, paid for the car and left. He was a lovely chap, turns out we had a lot of similar interests (watches etc) and we've messaged a few times since, genuinely seems like a good chap.

Not to a trader, but something very similar happened to me when I sold an d Volvo v70 D5 a couple of years back. Funny who you meet along the way at times.

[surveyor]

Finally sold it.

Not a fun experience.

[Tabs]

So what was the best price?

[surveyor]

Tabs said:

So what was the best price?

The best price was what we agreed at - for him to chip me for another £200 on the day. Not overly pleased - but wanted it gone and what goes around comes around.