Sports Car 50-60k, what would you buy?
Discussion
DoubleD said:
Nano2nd said:
mbwoy84 said:
1. 987 Turbo
What's a 987 Turbo?Porsche never made the 987 boxster/cayman with a turbocharged engine so by mentioning "turbo" you're immediately talking about something Porsche themselves never sold.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_987
CraigyMc said:
DoubleD said:
Nano2nd said:
mbwoy84 said:
1. 987 Turbo
What's a 987 Turbo?Porsche never made the 987 boxster/cayman with a turbocharged engine so by mentioning "turbo" you're immediately talking about something Porsche themselves never sold.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_987
CraigyMc said:
braddo said:
Composite Guru said:
Lotus Evora.
For a really good sports car, that has exclusivity (low sales 
), low running costs and low depreciation (after 2-3 years), the Evora is indeed hard to beat.The Exige (sport 380/410) is a sportscar.
blueg33 said:
CraigyMc said:
braddo said:
Composite Guru said:
Lotus Evora.
For a really good sports car, that has exclusivity (low sales ), low running costs and low depreciation (after 2-3 years), the Evora is indeed hard to beat.The Exige (sport 380/410) is a sportscar.
The Evora is a GT.
The full name of the Evora 410 is "Evora GT410" by the way.
CraigyMc said:
blueg33 said:
CraigyMc said:
braddo said:
Composite Guru said:
Lotus Evora.
For a really good sports car, that has exclusivity (low sales ), low running costs and low depreciation (after 2-3 years), the Evora is indeed hard to beat.The Exige (sport 380/410) is a sportscar.
The Evora is a GT.
The full name of the Evora 410 is "Evora GT410" by the way.
The Evora 410 sport is not the same as a 410gt, so you don’t appear to know your Evoras that well.
Yes it’s more of a GT than the Exige and Elise, but I didn’t say anything different.
Here is a question, is say a Ferrari 360 or a 430 a sports car or a GT? What about a Mac 12c?
If the Supra was offered with a manual gearbox I'd happily have one for sure. 
Rightly or wrongly I've never rated the Z4 very much though. I had a Z4M Roadster and for me it was a very flawed car, and I think that BMW generally hit the spot with the 3 and 5 series, but they always seem to miss the mark with the Z4 though sadly.
Rightly or wrongly I've never rated the Z4 very much though. I had a Z4M Roadster and for me it was a very flawed car, and I think that BMW generally hit the spot with the 3 and 5 series, but they always seem to miss the mark with the Z4 though sadly.
CABC said:
blueg33 said:
When I was trying to answer the same question 3 years ago, I ended up with my second Evora, in this case an S Sports Racer
Overall pretty cheap to run and more of a sports car than some suggestions on here.
For me after 3 years though it was time for a change, so I went for a Ferrari 360 - definitely costs more to run, but what an engine
love to hear more about your feelings on these two cars. Overall pretty cheap to run and more of a sports car than some suggestions on here.
For me after 3 years though it was time for a change, so I went for a Ferrari 360 - definitely costs more to run, but what an engine
which direction do you think you'll go next? in general terms of chassis, engine, drivetrain layout. in other words, a proper petrolhead conversation!
in the US (where else..) somebody put a Ferrari engine in a GT86. best combo?
I loved the Evora, I had an n/a car and then a supercharged one. The thing that originally sold me was the steering feel and sense of occasion (it felt like a super car in many ways), it was compromised but those added to the character, eg the aluminium switch gear was unique but badly placed, the seats the most comfortable buckets I have sat in but suffer from bolster wear. The exhaust sounded good, mine had motorsports exhausts). Occasionally, especially in the S you could feel that the CoG at the rear was a bit high, the n/a had better balance. I was looking at 911's and Caymans at the time, the Lotus steering feel just blew them out of the water for me.
The Ferrari is 13 years older than my last Evora was, yet it has very similar steering, much better power delivery and is alot faster (to me at least) from about 50mph up. The sound at 7-8000 rpm is fantastic. the interior materials are way ahead in quality terms, but the seats slightly less comfy.
Running costs - the Lotus was a bargain despite numerous niggles that needed to be sorted, the average service was under £400 at a dealer, plus usually around £150 to sort niggles eg cracked A pillars. The S averaged about 23mpg the n/a about 32mpg. The Ferrari is obviously going to be more expensive, its old and its a Ferrari, insurance is about the same for the same mileage and business use £350 for me, the Ferrari is way under 20mpg so far. Fewer niggles with the Ferrari but bigger servicing bills.
Both cars have a sense of occasion and so far I like them equally. Ferrari, however, seem very supportive of people who own their cars, Lotus Silverstone were great, Lotus less so, but Ferrari are already inviting me to events (Lotus never did), they have great offers for servicing on older models and you sort of feel part of a lifestyle club but its not intrusive.
Either car is fantastic, for me the Ferrari itch needed to be scratched, I needed a high revving V8 that is considered by many to be one of the best engines made, in my life, and that engine lifts the Ferrari above the Lotus.
Some pics, because I like them
n/a Evora at Prescott
Evora S Sports Racer
Ferrari 360
blueg33 said:
Interestingly, I have been asked a similar question on the Lotus Forums.
I loved the Evora, I had an n/a car and then a supercharged one. The thing that originally sold me was the steering feel and sense of occasion (it felt like a super car in many ways), it was compromised but those added to the character, eg the aluminium switch gear was unique but badly placed, the seats the most comfortable buckets I have sat in but suffer from bolster wear. The exhaust sounded good, mine had motorsports exhausts). Occasionally, especially in the S you could feel that the CoG at the rear was a bit high, the n/a had better balance. I was looking at 911's and Caymans at the time, the Lotus steering feel just blew them out of the water for me.
The Ferrari is 13 years older than my last Evora was, yet it has very similar steering, much better power delivery and is alot faster (to me at least) from about 50mph up. The sound at 7-8000 rpm is fantastic. the interior materials are way ahead in quality terms, but the seats slightly less comfy.
Running costs - the Lotus was a bargain despite numerous niggles that needed to be sorted, the average service was under £400 at a dealer, plus usually around £150 to sort niggles eg cracked A pillars. The S averaged about 23mpg the n/a about 32mpg. The Ferrari is obviously going to be more expensive, its old and its a Ferrari, insurance is about the same for the same mileage and business use £350 for me, the Ferrari is way under 20mpg so far. Fewer niggles with the Ferrari but bigger servicing bills.
Both cars have a sense of occasion and so far I like them equally. Ferrari, however, seem very supportive of people who own their cars, Lotus Silverstone were great, Lotus less so, but Ferrari are already inviting me to events (Lotus never did), they have great offers for servicing on older models and you sort of feel part of a lifestyle club but its not intrusive.
Either car is fantastic, for me the Ferrari itch needed to be scratched, I needed a high revving V8 that is considered by many to be one of the best engines made, in my life, and that engine lifts the Ferrari above the Lotus.
Some pics, because I like them
n/a Evora at Prescott
Evora S Sports Racer
Ferrari 360
can't argue with a high revving v8, with badge & pedigree!I loved the Evora, I had an n/a car and then a supercharged one. The thing that originally sold me was the steering feel and sense of occasion (it felt like a super car in many ways), it was compromised but those added to the character, eg the aluminium switch gear was unique but badly placed, the seats the most comfortable buckets I have sat in but suffer from bolster wear. The exhaust sounded good, mine had motorsports exhausts). Occasionally, especially in the S you could feel that the CoG at the rear was a bit high, the n/a had better balance. I was looking at 911's and Caymans at the time, the Lotus steering feel just blew them out of the water for me.
The Ferrari is 13 years older than my last Evora was, yet it has very similar steering, much better power delivery and is alot faster (to me at least) from about 50mph up. The sound at 7-8000 rpm is fantastic. the interior materials are way ahead in quality terms, but the seats slightly less comfy.
Running costs - the Lotus was a bargain despite numerous niggles that needed to be sorted, the average service was under £400 at a dealer, plus usually around £150 to sort niggles eg cracked A pillars. The S averaged about 23mpg the n/a about 32mpg. The Ferrari is obviously going to be more expensive, its old and its a Ferrari, insurance is about the same for the same mileage and business use £350 for me, the Ferrari is way under 20mpg so far. Fewer niggles with the Ferrari but bigger servicing bills.
Both cars have a sense of occasion and so far I like them equally. Ferrari, however, seem very supportive of people who own their cars, Lotus Silverstone were great, Lotus less so, but Ferrari are already inviting me to events (Lotus never did), they have great offers for servicing on older models and you sort of feel part of a lifestyle club but its not intrusive.
Either car is fantastic, for me the Ferrari itch needed to be scratched, I needed a high revving V8 that is considered by many to be one of the best engines made, in my life, and that engine lifts the Ferrari above the Lotus.
Some pics, because I like them
n/a Evora at Prescott
Evora S Sports Racer
Ferrari 360
since having the Evora i've become more committed to the Elise. i'm viewing multiple car ownership as a journey to the ideal 3 to retire with. not sure if the journey ever ends, but it certainly consists of 3 - 4 cars.
look forward to hearing what your next itch is. something V12 maybe.
CABC said:
can't argue with a high revving v8, with badge & pedigree!
since having the Evora i've become more committed to the Elise. i'm viewing multiple car ownership as a journey to the ideal 3 to retire with. not sure if the journey ever ends, but it certainly consists of 3 - 4 cars.
look forward to hearing what your next itch is. something V12 maybe.
There is a v12 on my list. Ferrari 575, I do fancy a gentleman’s grand tourer. I also want to try a McLaren and a Hurracan. But what really piques my interest is a full electric sports car. In the Evora size and handling bracket with real 350 mile range. since having the Evora i've become more committed to the Elise. i'm viewing multiple car ownership as a journey to the ideal 3 to retire with. not sure if the journey ever ends, but it certainly consists of 3 - 4 cars.
look forward to hearing what your next itch is. something V12 maybe.
blueg33 said:
There is a v12 on my list. Ferrari 575, I do fancy a gentleman’s grand tourer. I also want to try a McLaren and a Hurracan. But what really piques my interest is a full electric sports car. In the Evora size and handling bracket with real 350 mile range.
That is something I am actually pretty interested in. I’m not “that” bothered about the range, I think 200/250 would be fine for my requirements but obviously wouldn’t say no to bigger range. I’d quite like to see a 2 seater electric sports coupe / GT style car.
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