Has my approved Rolls Royce been “clocked”? Please help
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The Spruce Goose said:
i would getting an independent expert to validate your claims.
I did he agreed................My Observations as follows -
Vehicle condition -
O/S/F seat - Seatback leather is splitting.
O/S/F window trim - Insecure.
O/S dash clock trim - Insecure.
Centre upper dash leather - Split/damaged. O/S/R seat base - Leather is splitting.
N/S/R lower wing - Stone chips present. O/S/R lower wing - Stone chips present. O/S/R bumper corner - Scratched.
Centre front cup holder cover - Multiple chips.
Conclusion / Opinion:
In the engineer's opinion, based on evidence written, reported and observed during this assessment of the reported vehicle faults, the following can be concluded:
I can confirm the O/S/F seatback leather is splitting.
I can confirm the O/S/F window trim is insecure.
I can confirm the O/S dash clock trim is insecure.
I can confirm the centre upper dash leather is split/damaged. I can confirm the O/S/R seat base leather is splitting.
I can confirm the N/S/R lower wing has stone chips present.
I can confirm the O/S/R lower wing has stone chips present.
I can confirm the O/S/R bumper corner is scratched.
I can confirm the centre front cup holder cover has multiple chips present.
I can confirm that all of the above-listed damage /faults were present during today inspection.
It is in my opinion that the reported damage present to this prestige vehicle is unusual for the age and recorded mileage.
I think the advice above is good, specialist litigation solicitor with experience in high end cars. Perhaps s/he or someone on here can find a forensic investigator that can gets into the car's computers and download any data without changing anything - so all evidence is properly preserved.
ClaphamGT3 said:
On the basis that a 2 year old Rolls Royce wouldn't have been tuppence ha'penny, I'd instruct a solicitor
It must've cost a pretty penny!And someone that could afford such a car would not be posting on PH for advice!
(Or even worrying about it, they'd get one of their minions to do that.)
hotwheels23 said:
Apparently a “blocker” can stop the signal before it gets to the ecu??? On bmw running gear, which rolls Royce is?
Possible, but some ECUs use weird calculations to work out milage, and the number will be stored in other ECUs such as Airbag module, media centre ECU etc as a back up. You wouldn't be able to block them.I've tried to search what system RR use, but a laptop and reader, you could analyse the ECUs, a expert would know what to look for.
Edit found a blocker online
https://mileageblocker.com/find-your-car/ols/produ...
Seems it says it does.
You could look at other ways, such as uptime of the media unit, e,g how many hours used, as a potential indicator. Some cars record loads of thing that would be useful to help you.
Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 18th September 21:57
Not sure if Carly works with this or any other RR, but here's an example of what it can to in 1er.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY9-kiJfLkE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY9-kiJfLkE
The Spruce Goose said:
Uptime of the media unit? That sounds promising I wonder who could look at that, thanks
Possible, but some ECUs use weird calculations to work out milage, and the number will be stored in other ECUs such as Airbag module, media centre ECU etc as a back up. You wouldn't be able to block them.
I've tried to search what system RR use, but a laptop and reader, you could analyse the ECUs, a expert would know what to look for.
Edit found a blocker online
https://mileageblocker.com/find-your-car/ols/produ...
Seems it says it does.
You could look at other ways, such as uptime of the media unit, e,g how many hours used, as a potential indicator. Some cars record loads of thing that would be useful to help you.
Possible, but some ECUs use weird calculations to work out milage, and the number will be stored in other ECUs such as Airbag module, media centre ECU etc as a back up. You wouldn't be able to block them.
I've tried to search what system RR use, but a laptop and reader, you could analyse the ECUs, a expert would know what to look for.
Edit found a blocker online
https://mileageblocker.com/find-your-car/ols/produ...
Seems it says it does.
You could look at other ways, such as uptime of the media unit, e,g how many hours used, as a potential indicator. Some cars record loads of thing that would be useful to help you.
Edited by The Spruce Goose on Friday 18th September 21:57
That mileage blocker is interesting especially as it plugs into the console .
It's clear that car has been clocked, I'd definitely get formal with rolls.
Few things I'd also do:
-Search the registration on Google AND Google images
-If it had private plates do the same thing
-Try and find previous owner details and do some stalking, what is their profession, any photos of them in the car miles away (Europe or something).
Basically try and do some due diligence on the car even though it's after the fact that might support your claim. Don't contact the previous owner for obvious reasons.
It's clear that car has been clocked, I'd definitely get formal with rolls.
Few things I'd also do:
-Search the registration on Google AND Google images
-If it had private plates do the same thing
-Try and find previous owner details and do some stalking, what is their profession, any photos of them in the car miles away (Europe or something).
Basically try and do some due diligence on the car even though it's after the fact that might support your claim. Don't contact the previous owner for obvious reasons.
joropug said:
That mileage blocker is interesting especially as it plugs into the console .
Great ides thanks will get on to it
It's clear that car has been clocked, I'd definitely get formal with rolls.
Few things I'd also do:
-Search the registration on Google AND Google images
-If it had private plates do the same thing
-Try and find previous owner details and do some stalking, what is their profession, any photos of them in the car miles away (Europe or something).
Basically try and do some due diligence on the car even though it's after the fact that might support your claim. Don't contact the previous owner for obvious reasons.
Great ides thanks will get on to it
It's clear that car has been clocked, I'd definitely get formal with rolls.
Few things I'd also do:
-Search the registration on Google AND Google images
-If it had private plates do the same thing
-Try and find previous owner details and do some stalking, what is their profession, any photos of them in the car miles away (Europe or something).
Basically try and do some due diligence on the car even though it's after the fact that might support your claim. Don't contact the previous owner for obvious reasons.
Also put the reg in cazana, probably unlikely but if it was ever listed for sale there may be details. It's a great website that contains photos and advert descriptions.
My car for instance was listed when it was 3 years old with photos, which was interesting as it had a few tweaks when I bought it (grill and mirrors).
Cazana:
When I purchased:
My car for instance was listed when it was 3 years old with photos, which was interesting as it had a few tweaks when I bought it (grill and mirrors).
Cazana:
When I purchased:
Dave. said:
Not sure if Carly works with this or any other RR, but here's an example of what it can to in 1er.
Just looked but Carly for Rolls royce doesn’t do mileage
shame that would have been perfect
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY9-kiJfLkE
Just looked but Carly for Rolls royce doesn’t do mileage
shame that would have been perfecthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY9-kiJfLkE
An odd thread, buying a used car unseen will always carry a degree of risk, but at this end of the market it does seem strange that the dealer would go to ground.
Clocking is rife on high end cars, I know a guy who has been ‘working’ for prestige main dealers for many years, with the right software I’m told it’s impossible to detect. I’m looking at an expensive 2018 car that claims to have covered less than 4K miles, I will pay for an inspection, but there’s no foolproof way of knowing.
Clocking is rife on high end cars, I know a guy who has been ‘working’ for prestige main dealers for many years, with the right software I’m told it’s impossible to detect. I’m looking at an expensive 2018 car that claims to have covered less than 4K miles, I will pay for an inspection, but there’s no foolproof way of knowing.
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