Was I out of order ? Upset salesman

[SmoothCriminal]

Why would you go to see a car that's advertised for too much money?

[ZX10R NIN]

Why did all the tyres need replacing no dealer is going to sell a car where the tyres aren't legal.

[jackofall84]

Considering all garages are selling cars at Distance rules since the national lockdown and will be till the non-essential retail rule is lifted, I call BS on the OP. There's no viewing of cars, except potentially on unlocked open forecourts, even then you can't see inside the cars and the salesmen certainly don't come out to greet you or get an additional member of staff involved. I doubt any Mercedes dealership will break these rules.

[shtu]

Alan320i said:

jdizz said:

Op with 9 posts to his name.

Obvious Troll is Obvious.

I am a new member who joined a couple of days ago. I’ve looked through the forum and want to be apart of it.

I do not have the appearance of a troll. How can you make that assumption when you don’t even know me ?

Nice touch with the typos, you're getting the grammar nazis riled too. Solid 7/10 all round.

[PH User]

HustleRussell said:

P.S. does anybody believe this actually happened?

I certainly don't

[stevemcs]

Mr lestat said:

Alan320i said:

My logic exactly. From the consumers point of view they are offloading a car needing loads of work done to it. Perhaps it’s for the best that I didn’t buy it as perhaps the previous owner ran it into the ground.

I will phone the salesman back and give him a chance but I would need to be really impressed to buy it.

I wouldn’t bother there are plenty of other cars around surely.

Yes but they are all 2k more expensive than this one

[ZX10R NIN]

stevemcs said:

Mr lestat said:

Alan320i said:

My logic exactly. From the consumers point of view they are offloading a car needing loads of work done to it. Perhaps it’s for the best that I didn’t buy it as perhaps the previous owner ran it into the ground.

I will phone the salesman back and give him a chance but I would need to be really impressed to buy it.

I wouldn’t bother there are plenty of other cars around surely.

Yes but they are all 2k more expensive than this one

[Thats What She Said]

Alan320i said:

Back in 1982 when I was young whipper snapper I was thrown out of a pub because I did a crap in a urinal due to the toilets being out of order. Another customer walked in just as I was wiping my backside. He was horrified and told a bouncer. The bouncer came in and lifted me up and threw me out the back door.

Cool poo story.

Quite a difference in writing style and grammer to your other posts though... One would almost think it was deliberate.

[LordHaveMurci]

Alan320i said:

Back in 1982 when I was young whipper snapper I was thrown out of a pub because I did a crap in a urinal due to the toilets being out of order. Another customer walked in just as I was wiping my backside. He was horrified and told a bouncer. The bouncer came in and lifted me up and threw me out the back door.

Were you still wiping?

[ChocolateFrog]

Sounds like you dodged a bullet.

Do franchised dealers really retail cars for £16k needing as much work as the OP describes?

Never bought a car from a dealer but I'd always assumed you paid the inflated prices for a well prepped car.

[joshcowin]

ChocolateFrog said:

Sounds like you dodged a bullet.

Do franchised dealers really retail cars for £16k needing as much work as the OP describes?

Never bought a car from a dealer but I'd always assumed you paid the inflated prices for a well prepped car.

Thousands of dealers all with different standards!

Rolls Royce approved have had issues as is evident from a PH thread but you could buy a corsa from VX and be 100% fine!

[Roger Irrelevant]

I am sure that this happened exactly as described, that nothing is being exagerrated, that nothing is being omitted, and that the two salesmen involved would tell the story in exactly the same way.

[Mr Squarekins]

In the same way a dealer often low balls a first trade in offer, I always do the same. I don't storm off in a huff when they lowball me. I always qualify that I know that they probably can't get to that price, but I'm looking at a few cars so want to know what we can get to.

For those who hate this approach, I've saved more than a combined £7k on my last two cars. Worth a try. Just be really polite, thank them and never waste their time.

Works for me.

[stevemcs]

Mr Squarekins said:

In the same way a dealer often low balls a first trade in offer, I always do the same. I don't storm off in a huff when they lowball me. I always qualify that I know that they probably can't get to that price, but I'm looking at a few cars so want to know what we can get to.

For those who hate this approach, I've saved more than a combined £7k on my last two cars. Worth a try. Just be really polite, thank them and never waste their time.

Works for me.

It depends on the car though, the last one I purchased from a dealer was up at 17k, it had every toy thrown at it and had it been at a mini dealer it would have been 20k. I asked for something off, was refused so just put a deposit on it and collected it a week later, I knew it was a cheap car compared to others.

[Mr Squarekins]

stevemcs said:

Mr Squarekins said:

In the same way a dealer often low balls a first trade in offer, I always do the same. I don't storm off in a huff when they lowball me. I always qualify that I know that they probably can't get to that price, but I'm looking at a few cars so want to know what we can get to.

For those who hate this approach, I've saved more than a combined £7k on my last two cars. Worth a try. Just be really polite, thank them and never waste their time.

Works for me.

It depends on the car though, the last one I purchased from a dealer was up at 17k, it had every toy thrown at it and had it been at a mini dealer it would have been 20k. I asked for something off, was refused so just put a deposit on it and collected it a week later, I knew it was a cheap car compared to others.

Absolutely. You've got to be prepared to lose it to someone who pays in full. As you say, depends on the car, how long they've had it etc.

[hyphen]

Mr Squarekins said:

In the same way a dealer often low balls a first trade in offer, I always do the same. I don't storm off in a huff when they lowball me. I always qualify that I know that they probably can't get to that price, but I'm looking at a few cars so want to know what we can get to.

For those who hate this approach, I've saved more than a combined £7k on my last two cars. Worth a try. Just be really polite, thank them and never waste their time.

Works for me.

I find it's best to inject good humor into the exchange. So whatever you say as your reply to their trade-in offer, say it with an amused smile.

Pretend you are a Peter Kay character! "How much "

Edited by hyphen on Tuesday 23 February 19:57

[Alan320i]

Thank you for all replies. I am glad some people agree that I was in the right. I know some people think my offer was unrealistic but all I care about is how much it costs me so want to make myself feel like I am getting a bargain. I do not care about the salesman at all. We all have to provide for our families and all negotiate.

I will phone the salesman and tell him my offer stills stand. I will also tell him not to take it personally and I will tell him I don’t care about his targets should he bring it up.

The customer is always right.

[The Rotrex Kid]

Alan320i said:

Thank you for all replies. I am glad some people agree that I was in the right. I know some people think my offer was unrealistic but all I care about is how much it costs me so want to make myself feel like I am getting a bargain. I do not care about the salesman at all. We all have to provide for our families and all negotiate.

I will phone the salesman and tell him my offer stills stand. I will also tell him not to take it personally and I will tell him I don’t care about his targets should he bring it up.

The customer is always right.

Yeah you should definitely tell him all that.

The customer is not always right, shock news!

[joshcowin]

Alan320i said:

Thank you for all replies. I am glad some people agree that I was in the right. I know some people think my offer was unrealistic but all I care about is how much it costs me so want to make myself feel like I am getting a bargain. I do not care about the salesman at all. We all have to provide for our families and all negotiate.

I will phone the salesman and tell him my offer stills stand. I will also tell him not to take it personally and I will tell him I don’t care about his targets should he bring it up.

The customer is always right.

Thanks for confirming you are not genuine!

[hyphen]

Alan320i said:

I will phone the salesman and tell him my offer stills stand. I will also tell him not to take it personally and I will tell him I don’t care about his targets should he bring it up.

You closed that door. Leave it closed.