We Buy Any Car Valuation, Surely Not?.....

We Buy Any Car Valuation, Surely Not?.....

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Jazzer77

1,533 posts

195 months

Monday 31st May 2021
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Diderot said:
Just sold my X3 35d to them this morning. Had a p/x offer about a month ago from BMW of £21,300; WBAC gave me £26,500. Very happy with that.
That is a huge difference. Do you know what similar retail prices are?

Diderot

7,334 posts

193 months

Monday 31st May 2021
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Jazzer77 said:
Diderot said:
Just sold my X3 35d to them this morning. Had a p/x offer about a month ago from BMW of £21,300; WBAC gave me £26,500. Very happy with that.
That is a huge difference. Do you know what similar retail prices are?
They seem to vary a lot; one similar to mine is up for £31k from BMW main dealer. Mine had 4 kerbed alloys and a big scuff on the rear bumper (my wife’s car!).

ajap1979

8,014 posts

188 months

Monday 31st May 2021
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How do WBAC handle optional extras?

Juanco20

3,214 posts

194 months

Monday 31st May 2021
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There are going to be a lot of people getting stung over the next 18-24 months if they're buying a used car at the moment at inflated prices. Once the shortage of new cars corrects itself, used car prices will have to drop back to where they were pre Covid. The only way the current prices will hold is if they wack up the price of buying new and remove many of the discounts offered on new cars. I think thats unlikely to happen

Fattyfat

3,301 posts

197 months

Monday 31st May 2021
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Juanco20 said:
There are going to be a lot of people getting stung over the next 18-24 months if they're buying a used car at the moment at inflated prices. Once the shortage of new cars corrects itself, used car prices will have to drop back to where they were pre Covid. The only way the current prices will hold is if they wack up the price of buying new and remove many of the discounts offered on new cars. I think thats unlikely to happen
Sold my Focus Vignale to WBAC on Saturday, effectively had a years free driving. My tatty old E500 is now on daily duty until prices settle and I buy something else. I did look briefly but prices are crazy, even for older stuff.

matt21

4,290 posts

205 months

Monday 31st May 2021
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WBAC told me for cars above £12k you will not be paid until the next working day. So a Friday sale would be payment Monday. Even with the premium fast payment option.

Have those who have sold already experienced this?

jjr1

3,023 posts

261 months

Monday 31st May 2021
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Juanco20 said:
There are going to be a lot of people getting stung over the next 18-24 months if they're buying a used car at the moment at inflated prices. Once the shortage of new cars corrects itself, used car prices will have to drop back to where they were pre Covid. The only way the current prices will hold is if they wack up the price of buying new and remove many of the discounts offered on new cars. I think thats unlikely to happen
I would guess even less than 18 months. Unless we have a paradigm shift in new car prices I would imagine the factories will be up and running within
six months.

If the new car supply becomes anywhere near pre 2020 supply levels we will have a huge amount of overpriced second hand cars. In the same way as these cars have had a very steep appreciation curve in the last few months I can foresee the exact opposite in twelve months time. Couple this with an economy that could be in the doldrums and I would not be buying a used car now.

ExigeNRG

9 posts

61 months

Monday 31st May 2021
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Astonishing offers available at the moment. WBAC has valued my Transporter that I've had for 6 years and 36000 miles (46000 total) with 1 PO at £1500 less than I purchased it for. Unbelievable!

Juanco20

3,214 posts

194 months

Monday 31st May 2021
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jjr1 said:
I would guess even less than 18 months. Unless we have a paradigm shift in new car prices I would imagine the factories will be up and running within
six months.

If the new car supply becomes anywhere near pre 2020 supply levels we will have a huge amount of overpriced second hand cars. In the same way as these cars have had a very steep appreciation curve in the last few months I can foresee the exact opposite in twelve months time. Couple this with an economy that could be in the doldrums and I would not be buying a used car now.
Im in a bit of a pickle because I have a lease expiring in December and lease prices now are high. I was intending on buying used in the 15-20k bracket but not if prices are still through the roof.

If they still are then my only option might be to run a banger for a few months

jjr1

3,023 posts

261 months

Monday 31st May 2021
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Juanco20 said:
jjr1 said:
I would guess even less than 18 months. Unless we have a paradigm shift in new car prices I would imagine the factories will be up and running within
six months.

If the new car supply becomes anywhere near pre 2020 supply levels we will have a huge amount of overpriced second hand cars. In the same way as these cars have had a very steep appreciation curve in the last few months I can foresee the exact opposite in twelve months time. Couple this with an economy that could be in the doldrums and I would not be buying a used car now.
Im in a bit of a pickle because I have a lease expiring in December and lease prices now are high. I was intending on buying used in the 15-20k bracket but not if prices are still through the roof.

If they still are then my only option might be to run a banger for a few months
I am in the same pickle but have to admit I am going with a drop in value in the medium term. I have sold my Boxster S at what I thought was a good price. I could have sold it for more in the last month or so. I sold my i8 for a good price and I can not see that being surpassed.. I bought my Gr Yaris at list price and you can't do better than that, despite the second hand values having a supposed premium.

So despite me desperately wanting a daily car I am going to wait till the manufacturers start supplying new cars.....It is a gamble though as they could in turn increase their prices significantly.

Juanco20

3,214 posts

194 months

Tuesday 1st June 2021
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How quickly do WBAC flip the cars they buy? Seems a risk on their part to be paying out such high sums

un1eash

602 posts

141 months

Tuesday 1st June 2021
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British Car Auction own WBAC and Cinch, the cars are sold via these 2 channels. They have a very good control on used car prices.

av185

18,514 posts

128 months

Tuesday 1st June 2021
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The increasingly strong bids by WBAC reflect their confidence in the future car market and rising values which could well continue until next year.

Anyone selling a few months ago or even in the last few weeks will be kicking themselves now.

June CAP clean trade figures showing major increases up to 15% up from May in just 1 month. This will result in huge increases in the next few weeks alone.

Trevor555

4,457 posts

85 months

Tuesday 1st June 2021
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av185 said:
Anyone selling a few months ago or even in the last few weeks will be kicking themselves now.
Two kicks for me please.

I was pleased with the prices I got, one was £800 over Cap clean, the other £3000 over..

And I thought they couldn't possibly go any higher

av185

18,514 posts

128 months

Tuesday 1st June 2021
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Trevor555 said:
av185 said:
Anyone selling a few months ago or even in the last few weeks will be kicking themselves now.
Two kicks for me please.

I was pleased with the prices I got, one was £800 over Cap clean, the other £3000 over..

And I thought they couldn't possibly go any higher
If you are pleased with the offer at that point in time that is really all that matters. Very difficult to time as is anything else e.g. equities etc.

We would all be rich with good old hindsight of course!

Diderot

7,334 posts

193 months

Tuesday 1st June 2021
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Diderot said:
Jazzer77 said:
Diderot said:
Just sold my X3 35d to them this morning. Had a p/x offer about a month ago from BMW of £21,300; WBAC gave me £26,500. Very happy with that.
That is a huge difference. Do you know what similar retail prices are?
They seem to vary a lot; one similar to mine is up for £31k from BMW main dealer. Mine had 4 kerbed alloys and a big scuff on the rear bumper (my wife’s car!).
Just checked Carwow valuation- came in at £23,600-£24.400. So pretty good result.

shiversaint

98 posts

41 months

Tuesday 1st June 2021
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Juanco20 said:
There are going to be a lot of people getting stung over the next 18-24 months if they're buying a used car at the moment at inflated prices. Once the shortage of new cars corrects itself, used car prices will have to drop back to where they were pre Covid. The only way the current prices will hold is if they wack up the price of buying new and remove many of the discounts offered on new cars. I think thats unlikely to happen
I'm actually unconvinced by this. I would think many manufacturers are taking the opportunity to reset and scale down their ICE production permanently, with electric oncoming.

I think it's highly unlikely we'll ever see the same sort of ICE production numbers again, and this may prop up the market a bit. I can't see WBAC getting into loads of stock at seriously high prices unless they are confident they can shift it for the forseeable, it would be an insane business risk - they've survived on lowballing people for years so their confidence must be sky high about future values. You'd think they also know a bit more about the market than we do, too.

centralscot

65 posts

51 months

Tuesday 1st June 2021
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shiversaint said:
I'm actually unconvinced by this
Be convinced.

Prolex-UK

3,068 posts

209 months

Tuesday 1st June 2021
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My 2020 VW golf R estate

2800 miles

Paid29870 for it

Limpet

6,322 posts

162 months

Tuesday 1st June 2021
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2020 Hyundai i30N Performance. Paid £22,750 for it in March. WBAC are offering £24,500 now.