Best car for 2 mile track with 40% gradients, rocky surface?

Best car for 2 mile track with 40% gradients, rocky surface?

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mike74

3,687 posts

133 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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I think it's a little off for posters to start suggesting that people should just ''mind their own business'' ... the OP was happy enough to voluntarily divulge plenty of additional details about his property purchase to begin with rather than just keeping it strictly to a 'what car' thread.

I for one am not interested in the exact location I just had a genuine interest in the whole story behind the purchase and the style/condition of the house itself.

Given it's remote and isolated location 2 miles along a boulder strewn track I'd be surprised if a pic of the house really would be such a dead giveaway as to exactly where it is and the pics he's already posted of the surrounding scenery should be a good enough giveaway to the location for anyone who really knows the area anyway, so I'm not really sure why the OP is so coy about putting up a few pics of the house itself.

MYOB

4,812 posts

139 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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BroadsRS6 said:
Admittedly the thought of bruising fruit did almost make me pull out of the purchase.......
You can't buy eggs either.

Have you got tyres yet? If not, look as General Grabbers.

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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I think people are just intrigued about a place so remote and cut off in the UK, I know I am. Sounds absolutely amazing. That said I rarely even tell anyone online what country I live in let alone what house, way too many weirdos out there, so I don't blame the OP one bit for not being entirely forthcoming!

loafer123

15,454 posts

216 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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fblm said:
I think people are just intrigued about a place so remote and cut off in the UK, I know I am. Sounds absolutely amazing. That said I rarely even tell anyone online what country I live in let alone what house, way too many weirdos out there, so I don't blame the OP one bit for not being entirely forthcoming!
That absolutely makes sense. What doesn’t make sense is posting a picture of a different house…

PH User

22,154 posts

109 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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loafer123 said:
fblm said:
I think people are just intrigued about a place so remote and cut off in the UK, I know I am. Sounds absolutely amazing. That said I rarely even tell anyone online what country I live in let alone what house, way too many weirdos out there, so I don't blame the OP one bit for not being entirely forthcoming!
That absolutely makes sense. What doesn’t make sense is posting a picture of a different house…
And then saying oops I posted the wrong picture when caught out, then followed by him saying that he meant to post the wrong picture in the 1st place...

InitialDave

11,969 posts

120 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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I'm more interested in the Jeep as well, tbh.

Intrigued to see how it copes as standard, given you said a Defender was struggling, as out the box the Landie should be noticeably better.

jhonn

1,567 posts

150 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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InitialDave said:
....as out the box the Landie should be noticeably better.
It depends on the model and year, also very much what tyres are fitted.

The Jeep will have a limited slip rear differential which helps, but may run out of ground clearance compared to the Landy (if fitted with the 215/60 tyres). Also, unless disconnected the front anti-roll bar can limit articulation; very good steering lock though, which helps wheel placement.

If a later model year the Landrover may have traction control, which can be a blessing or a curse - if all 4 wheels are struggling for traction it can kill engine power making forward progress impossible. If not fitted with traction control the open diffs can halt progress on undulating/rocky terrain. The track-rod behind the front axle can be prone to catching and bending on bigger rocks.

Pros and cons for each, it would depend on individual vehicle spec, both very capable vehicles though.



Red9zero

6,952 posts

58 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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Blimey, this thread took a turn. I can see the OP's point though when people are reverse searching pics straight away. Anyhow, I just want to see a pic of a Defender towing the Jeep when it get stuck laugh

paralla

3,541 posts

136 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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Red9zero said:
Blimey, this thread took a turn. I can see the OP's point though when people are reverse searching pics straight away. Anyhow, I just want to see a pic of a Defender towing the Jeep when it get stuck laugh
Then the Jeep Towing the Defender when it’s broken down.

Geekman

2,870 posts

147 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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PH User said:
loafer123 said:
fblm said:
I think people are just intrigued about a place so remote and cut off in the UK, I know I am. Sounds absolutely amazing. That said I rarely even tell anyone online what country I live in let alone what house, way too many weirdos out there, so I don't blame the OP one bit for not being entirely forthcoming!
That absolutely makes sense. What doesn’t make sense is posting a picture of a different house…
And then saying oops I posted the wrong picture when caught out, then followed by him saying that he meant to post the wrong picture in the 1st place...
Agreed. I was with him until that point but it all just sounds like BS now. I'd love to be proven wrong though.

snowandrocks

1,054 posts

143 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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Red9zero said:
Blimey, this thread took a turn. I can see the OP's point though when people are reverse searching pics straight away. Anyhow, I just want to see a pic of a Defender towing the Jeep when it get stuck laugh
Haha, if that's aimed at me then I didn't reverse search anything - I've spent quite a few nights in that bothy on the North Coast and recognised it straight off.

Taita

7,619 posts

204 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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Even if it was BS, who cares.

OP, hope the jeep pans out smile

How u doing

27,075 posts

184 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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Taita said:
Even if it was BS, who cares.

OP, hope the jeep pans out smile
He's been living off grid for a couple of weeks now, these things play with a man's mind.

Be careful what you wish for.

InitialDave

11,969 posts

120 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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jhonn said:
The Jeep will have a limited slip rear differential which helps,
Will it?

I thought normal TJs were just open diffs.

jhonn

1,567 posts

150 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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As far as I'm aware, UK spec 4.0 litre TJ's came with a Dana 44 axle with the limited slip diff (that's what was fitted to my 1996 one anyway). It wasn't fitted to the 2.5 litre as I recall (could be wrong tho', it's been a while since I had it).

InitialDave

11,969 posts

120 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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jhonn said:
As far as I'm aware, UK spec 4.0 litre TJ's came with a Dana 44 axle with the limited slip diff (that's what was fitted to my 1996 one anyway). It wasn't fitted to the 2.5 litre as I recall (could be wrong tho', it's been a while since I had it).
Aha, interesting, thanks.

I knew there were options for the D44 and LSD D44 in the US, and I've seen a UK one with a D44, I just assumed it was optional or year specific.

Easy enough to check visually which axle it is, I suppose, and were they doing that thing of having a stamped tag on one of the cover bolts that tells you if it's an LSD or not?

jhonn

1,567 posts

150 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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Yep, I remember seeing a tag on the rear cover (can't remember the specifics tho').

InitialDave

11,969 posts

120 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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jhonn said:
Yep, I remember seeing a tag on the rear cover (can't remember the specifics tho').
Cool, easy for the OP to check, iirc it'll tell you the diff ratio and whether it's an LSD or not.

jhonn

1,567 posts

150 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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They're geared pretty high (3.07:1 as I remember) - it's a bit of a limiting factor when you go up in wheel/tyre size and makes it less pleasant to drive, particularly for on-road use.

Unfortunately, changing the gearing in the diff is troublesome and expensive.

paralla

3,541 posts

136 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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jhonn said:
They're geared pretty high (3.07:1 as I remember) - it's a bit of a limiting factor when you go up in wheel/tyre size and makes it less pleasant to drive, particularly for on-road use.

Unfortunately, changing the gearing in the diff is troublesome and expensive.
The diff, the Jeep and the house might not even be real.