Anyone bought a car through Car & Classic Auctions?

Anyone bought a car through Car & Classic Auctions?

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aland75

172 posts

78 months

Friday 24th November 2023
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ingenieur said:
Maybe the sensor requires some sort of washer to stop the terminal contacting earth?
It's a variable resistor with just 1 spade terminal, and relies on the engine as the ground connection. You can see a picture of it here
So insulating it wouldn't help.

GeneralBanter

813 posts

16 months

Friday 24th November 2023
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ingenieur said:
Not sure if you've solved the temp gauge problem yet but generally speaking the gauge is measuring resistance. Hot = a lot of resistance. Right around the dial off the end means infinite resistance... i.e. wire disconnected.

Potentially if you're seeing weird fluctuations in the reading on the temp gauge you have a bit of corrosion or frayed wire somewhere between the gauge and the sensor.
It’s the other way round for a temperature sender - zero resistance = max current = high gauge.

GeneralBanter

813 posts

16 months

Friday 24th November 2023
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ingenieur said:
Not sure if you've solved the temp gauge problem yet but generally speaking the gauge is measuring resistance. Hot = a lot of resistance. Right around the dial off the end means infinite resistance... i.e. wire disconnected.

Potentially if you're seeing weird fluctuations in the reading on the temp gauge you have a bit of corrosion or frayed wire somewhere between the gauge and the sensor.
It’s the other way round for a temperature sender - zero resistance = max current = high gauge.

ingenieur

4,097 posts

182 months

Friday 24th November 2023
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aland75 said:
ingenieur said:
Maybe the sensor requires some sort of washer to stop the terminal contacting earth?
It's a variable resistor with just 1 spade terminal, and relies on the engine as the ground connection. You can see a picture of it here
So insulating it wouldn't help.
Unlikely to be the sender then. Some of them have a plastic cap which is supposed to insulate the terminal but can sometimes allow contact with the housing.

You're probably looking for a dodgy wire... the worst kind of fault.

aland75

172 posts

78 months

Friday 24th November 2023
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ingenieur said:
Unlikely to be the sender then. Some of them have a plastic cap which is supposed to insulate the terminal but can sometimes allow contact with the housing.

You're probably looking for a dodgy wire... the worst kind of fault.
Except, when I caught it (and the gauge wasn't stuck at max), it dropped as soon as I disconnected the sensor - so it does appear to have been.

GeneralBanter

813 posts

16 months

Friday 24th November 2023
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I’ve also just found to my cost that if a bid is received within the last 3 minutes of a C&C Auction that the time left resets the countdown from 3 minutes - so the auction I bid on ended nearly 8 minutes later.

Another way to eke out every last drop of bidding.

I won’t be looking at anything on there again it’s well wrong.

hidetheelephants

24,472 posts

194 months

Saturday 25th November 2023
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GeneralBanter said:
I’ve also just found to my cost that if a bid is received within the last 3 minutes of a C&C Auction that the time left resets the countdown from 3 minutes - so the auction I bid on ended nearly 8 minutes later.

Another way to eke out every last drop of bidding.

I won’t be looking at anything on there again it’s well wrong.
It's quite common with online auctions, it's to allow people with wonky connections to take part on an equal footing; it's a compromise just as having a fixed hammer time is. It will specify this in the terms and conditions.

rovermorris999

5,203 posts

190 months

Saturday 25th November 2023
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hidetheelephants said:
It's quite common with online auctions, it's to allow people with wonky connections to take part on an equal footing; it's a compromise just as having a fixed hammer time is. It will specify this in the terms and conditions.
I don't think it's a bad thing, it stops sniping and gets the best price for the seller. No different to a physical auction.

GeneralBanter

813 posts

16 months

Saturday 25th November 2023
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rovermorris999 said:
I don't think it's a bad thing, it stops sniping and gets the best price for the seller. No different to a physical auction.
Fair enough. Just hope it doesn’t come to eBay!

rovermorris999

5,203 posts

190 months

Saturday 25th November 2023
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GeneralBanter said:
Fair enough. Just hope it doesn’t come to eBay!
Indeed! For a buyer with a quick finger and a good internet connection it's the last thing you want.

jason61c

5,978 posts

175 months

Saturday 25th November 2023
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can't be wrose on car and classic than collecting cars.

Matt Dell

3,242 posts

156 months

PH TEAM

Sunday 26th November 2023
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rovermorris999 said:
hidetheelephants said:
It's quite common with online auctions, it's to allow people with wonky connections to take part on an equal footing; it's a compromise just as having a fixed hammer time is. It will specify this in the terms and conditions.
I don't think it's a bad thing, it stops sniping and gets the best price for the seller. No different to a physical auction.
Bingo.

Huntsman

8,069 posts

251 months

Sunday 24th December 2023
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There's a Jaguar Mk1 on the auction app, its says in the text

"Underside has some minor signs of corrosion though this is very much surface level"

Yet if you zoom in to the pics, it clearly has a hole in it.

fridaypassion

8,581 posts

229 months

Sunday 24th December 2023
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GeneralBanter said:
I’ve also just found to my cost that if a bid is received within the last 3 minutes of a C&C Auction that the time left resets the countdown from 3 minutes - so the auction I bid on ended nearly 8 minutes later.

Another way to eke out every last drop of bidding.

I won’t be looking at anything on there again it’s well wrong.
This is only like a physical auction where they will say going once....twice...etc its a fair way to ensure everyone that wanted to bid can do it.

Pistom

4,978 posts

160 months

Sunday 24th December 2023
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fridaypassion said:
This is only like a physical auction where they will say going once....twice...etc its a fair way to ensure everyone that wanted to bid can do it.
Agreed. Sniping is a snide way of bidding. Just bid the most you're prepared to pay and let the highest bid win.

Extending the auction also gives the buyer time to decide if they really want to pay more than has been bid up to.

On Ebay, there's been several occasions I've had winning bids off snide snipe bidders who later pull out as they regret putting their bid in - it benefits nobody.

jason61c

5,978 posts

175 months

Sunday 24th December 2023
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Everyone bids at the last minute. its not snide.

the trick is finding a trustworthy online auction platform, there's some terrible onces out there.

Pistom

4,978 posts

160 months

Sunday 24th December 2023
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jason61c said:
Everyone bids at the last minute. its not snide.

the trick is finding a trustworthy online auction platform, there's some terrible onces out there.
Bidding in the last minute isn't snide as you've seen what others have bid and decided if you're prepared to bid or not. I'm talking about those who leave it to the very last moment in the hope they slip a bid in which others don't have time to consider and respond to - it's underhand which is the very definition of snide.


GeneralBanter

813 posts

16 months

Sunday 24th December 2023
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Pistom said:
Bidding in the last minute isn't snide as you've seen what others have bid and decided if you're prepared to bid or not. I'm talking about those who leave it to the very last moment in the hope they slip a bid in which others don't have time to consider and respond to - it's underhand which is the very definition of snide.
Not snide at all as it’s still the maximum bid someone is willing to go to - which is the definition of an auction. Just because you don’t snipe isn’t a reason to try to call out those that do, just join them and stop distributing your sour grapes!

Edited by GeneralBanter on Sunday 24th December 23:14

Pistom

4,978 posts

160 months

Sunday 24th December 2023
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The discussion was over the reasonableness of extending auctions if someone places a bid in the closing seconds.

It's interesting how people use phrases like "sour grapes" when they're just trying to support bad form.


GT4RS

4,439 posts

198 months

Sunday 24th December 2023
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paul13 said:
ingenieur said:
The negative ones are worth reading!

https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/carandclassic.com...
That's what I did.
Wow worth a read !