Q7 v XC90 v Discovery
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We're just about to have baby number 3 so it's time to swap the aging Freelander 2 for a proper mum bus.
We've narrowed the list to Q7, XC90 (with family pack) and a full fat Discovery. Looking to spend up to £35 - £40k (but ideally less!) in today's ridiculous second hand car market... Looks like any of the above 3 would be OK for a newer than 2017, less than 50k miles.
Have driven all 3 and to drive we thought Q7 > XC90 > Discovery.
What would the pistonhead collective choose? Would love to hear from current owners
We've narrowed the list to Q7, XC90 (with family pack) and a full fat Discovery. Looking to spend up to £35 - £40k (but ideally less!) in today's ridiculous second hand car market... Looks like any of the above 3 would be OK for a newer than 2017, less than 50k miles.
Have driven all 3 and to drive we thought Q7 > XC90 > Discovery.
What would the pistonhead collective choose? Would love to hear from current owners
Djcappleby said:
I've heard that Disco 4 are a bit too unreliable...
There are a couple of things on them which are common problems, but they are very well understood vehicles now and the many independents can fix them fairly easily. I wouldn't say they were any more unreliable than any other heavy 4x4. Ours has never left us stranded in 130k miles. Biggest (only) significant job was a split intake manifold just recently, which is a common problem. Other than that, it has just been routine servicing. Ours was one of the earliest Discovery 4's (59 plate), which was apparently a step up in reliability from the Discovery 3.
They look good, and are just so capable, whatever you are using it for. Long haul holidays fully loaded, football team delivery with the 7 seats, towing over 3 tonnes, skip runs, transporting building materials, extremely comfortable to drive long distances. They are cavernous inside.
Fantastic vehicles. Ours still feels suitably luxurious after all those miles and years. And it has not had an easy life.
From your list I'd say the XC90. Q7 is just meh, in every iteration. Land Rover products are a gamble more than the other two. Ultimately whichever you'll feel happier driving is the correct answer!
My suggestion, even though not what you've asked for, is the GLS. Far rarer, might stretch the budget a bit though.
My suggestion, even though not what you've asked for, is the GLS. Far rarer, might stretch the budget a bit though.
Djcappleby said:
We're just about to have baby number 3 so it's time to swap the aging Freelander 2 for a proper mum bus.
We've narrowed the list to Q7, XC90 (with family pack) and a full fat Discovery. Looking to spend up to £35 - £40k (but ideally less!) in today's ridiculous second hand car market... Looks like any of the above 3 would be OK for a newer than 2017, less than 50k miles.
Have driven all 3 and to drive we thought Q7 > XC90 > Discovery.
What would the pistonhead collective choose? Would love to hear from current owners
The Disco4 in reality is no less reliable than any big heavy 4x4 but there are also some other options out there, from your list it would be Q7 Discovery XC90.We've narrowed the list to Q7, XC90 (with family pack) and a full fat Discovery. Looking to spend up to £35 - £40k (but ideally less!) in today's ridiculous second hand car market... Looks like any of the above 3 would be OK for a newer than 2017, less than 50k miles.
Have driven all 3 and to drive we thought Q7 > XC90 > Discovery.
What would the pistonhead collective choose? Would love to hear from current owners
Touareg if you like the Q7 this is the same car but you'll land a 2019 SEL for your budget & you'll get a 2 year warranty on top of what's left from the manufacturer.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202112060...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202111069...
R Line
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202110218...
2018
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202110288...
Leftfield option is the Maserati Levante they're very good reliable SUV.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202007281...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202112310...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202201030...
I imagine 7 seats is a requirement with 3 kids (ask me how I know) and the associated flexibility of a growing family/friends travelling with you regularly. Personally, the Touraeg makes no sense to me at all as a huge 5 seater. Pretend 7 seaters such as GLB, Kodiaq, Tiguan Allspace, Tarraco etc. don't wash either as the back row is largely useless.
I'm currently in a 20 plate XC90 R design B5.... as my 21 plate Disco HSE / R Dynamic is in the dealership being repaired...
The Disco beats it hand down in just about every area - except maybe reliability
Not sure where the XC90 is in terms of spec but I'm not impressed with the interior.
Drivewise they're actually pretty similar - the Disco is the 3 litre and the Volvo 2.0. Volvo seems worse on fuel at the moment.
Disco is a much nicer place to be inside & the Pivi pro in car system is a million times better than the Volvo with its rather tiny screen.
Exterior I guess the looks are subjective as I know the disco isn't popular.
The Disco beats it hand down in just about every area - except maybe reliability
Not sure where the XC90 is in terms of spec but I'm not impressed with the interior.
Drivewise they're actually pretty similar - the Disco is the 3 litre and the Volvo 2.0. Volvo seems worse on fuel at the moment.
Disco is a much nicer place to be inside & the Pivi pro in car system is a million times better than the Volvo with its rather tiny screen.
Exterior I guess the looks are subjective as I know the disco isn't popular.
ZX10R NIN said:
Djcappleby said:
We're just about to have baby number 3 so it's time to swap the aging Freelander 2 for a proper mum bus.
We've narrowed the list to Q7, XC90 (with family pack) and a full fat Discovery. Looking to spend up to £35 - £40k (but ideally less!) in today's ridiculous second hand car market... Looks like any of the above 3 would be OK for a newer than 2017, less than 50k miles.
Have driven all 3 and to drive we thought Q7 > XC90 > Discovery.
What would the pistonhead collective choose? Would love to hear from current owners
The Disco4 in reality is no less reliable than any big heavy 4x4 but there are also some other options out there, from your list it would be Q7 Discovery XC90.We've narrowed the list to Q7, XC90 (with family pack) and a full fat Discovery. Looking to spend up to £35 - £40k (but ideally less!) in today's ridiculous second hand car market... Looks like any of the above 3 would be OK for a newer than 2017, less than 50k miles.
Have driven all 3 and to drive we thought Q7 > XC90 > Discovery.
What would the pistonhead collective choose? Would love to hear from current owners
Touareg if you like the Q7 this is the same car but you'll land a 2019 SEL for your budget & you'll get a 2 year warranty on top of what's left from the manufacturer.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202112060...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202111069...
R Line
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202110218...
2018
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202110288...
Leftfield option is the Maserati Levante they're very good reliable SUV.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202007281...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202112310...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202201030...
If you regularly have to have the whole family plus grandparents or whoever in the car then fine otherwise it's unnecessary and you can just consider a 5 seater. That said, make sure you are happy with those 3 rear seats. Lovely as the Levante is the middle seat leg room is rather compromised by the intrusive rear climate control unit and higher than normal transmission tunnel.
Thanks for the replies.
The reason we're leaning towards the Q7 is because you can get 3 car seats across the back seat all with isofix, I don't think there's any 5 seaters where you can do this.
The XC90 with the family pack has a built in pop up booster seat in the middle of row 2 which means the 2 isofix car seats can fit either side and our 4 year old can sit in the middle.
This then leaves the boot space for the dog and luggage for either the Q7 or the XC90.
On the Disco I don't think you can do either of the above which then means a child in row 3...
The reason we're leaning towards the Q7 is because you can get 3 car seats across the back seat all with isofix, I don't think there's any 5 seaters where you can do this.
The XC90 with the family pack has a built in pop up booster seat in the middle of row 2 which means the 2 isofix car seats can fit either side and our 4 year old can sit in the middle.
This then leaves the boot space for the dog and luggage for either the Q7 or the XC90.
On the Disco I don't think you can do either of the above which then means a child in row 3...
I currently have an 2016 xc90 D5 and could recommend it. Loads of space, a fantastic long distance cruiser and the most comfortable car I have ever owned. I have had some electrical issues, however I’ve come to accept that electrical gremlins seem to be an issue with all modern cars due to the amount of tech in them. The gear boxes are a bit slow, so don’t expect it to be sporty in anyway. Also I would recommend getting a model with air suspension rather than coil springs, the latter (which I have) can be a bit jarring on rough country lanes. The petrol models are much better to drive if you can tolerate the fuel consumption.
Saying that, I’ve got a discovery on order which is probably a marginally better car all round if you ignore the horrendous reliability record. I very briefly had a 2017 discovery before the Volvo which suffered a total engine failure.
Saying that, I’ve got a discovery on order which is probably a marginally better car all round if you ignore the horrendous reliability record. I very briefly had a 2017 discovery before the Volvo which suffered a total engine failure.
champ54321 said:
I currently have an 2016 xc90 D5 and could recommend it. Loads of space, a fantastic long distance cruiser and the most comfortable car I have ever owned. I have had some electrical issues, however I’ve come to accept that electrical gremlins seem to be an issue with all modern cars due to the amount of tech in them. The gear boxes are a bit slow, so don’t expect it to be sporty in anyway. Also I would recommend getting a model with air suspension rather than coil springs, the latter (which I have) can be a bit jarring on rough country lanes. The petrol models are much better to drive if you can tolerate the fuel consumption.
Saying that, I’ve got a discovery on order which is probably a marginally better car all round if you ignore the horrendous reliability record. I very briefly had a 2017 discovery before the Volvo which suffered a total engine failure.
Depending on driving requirements the T8 hybrid looks an interesting proposition about 400 bhp sub 6 sec 0-60.Saying that, I’ve got a discovery on order which is probably a marginally better car all round if you ignore the horrendous reliability record. I very briefly had a 2017 discovery before the Volvo which suffered a total engine failure.
Edited by fflump on Tuesday 4th January 21:20
ZX10R NIN said:
Djcappleby said:
We're just about to have baby number 3 so it's time to swap the aging Freelander 2 for a proper mum bus.
We've narrowed the list to Q7, XC90 (with family pack) and a full fat Discovery. Looking to spend up to £35 - £40k (but ideally less!) in today's ridiculous second hand car market... Looks like any of the above 3 would be OK for a newer than 2017, less than 50k miles.
Have driven all 3 and to drive we thought Q7 > XC90 > Discovery.
What would the pistonhead collective choose? Would love to hear from current owners
The Disco4 in reality is no less reliable than any big heavy 4x4 but there are also some other options out there, from your list it would be Q7 Discovery XC90.We've narrowed the list to Q7, XC90 (with family pack) and a full fat Discovery. Looking to spend up to £35 - £40k (but ideally less!) in today's ridiculous second hand car market... Looks like any of the above 3 would be OK for a newer than 2017, less than 50k miles.
Have driven all 3 and to drive we thought Q7 > XC90 > Discovery.
What would the pistonhead collective choose? Would love to hear from current owners
Touareg if you like the Q7 this is the same car but you'll land a 2019 SEL for your budget & you'll get a 2 year warranty on top of what's left from the manufacturer.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202112060...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202111069...
R Line
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202110218...
2018
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202110288...
Leftfield option is the Maserati Levante they're very good reliable SUV.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202007281...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202112310...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202201030...
After have done 130K miles in a Disco 4 with very few problems (The trick with all Landrover's is preventative maintenance) we went to test drive the D5. We didn't bother once we set eyes on it.
So kept it for a while then found the VW.
The Toureag is the answer if you want a newish 4x4. Much prettier than the Q7. Has more Cylinders than XC90 which makes a massive difference to refinement in a heavy car.
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