Alternative to a Transit?

Alternative to a Transit?

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eldar

Original Poster:

21,861 posts

197 months

Wednesday 5th January 2022
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The third break in in 3 months now is convincing me a van is a bad idea to carry the tools around in. £3,000 in tools, plus damage to the van is getting silly, and the robbing bds seem completely unworried about getting caught.

So, large, boring estate that will take a roof rack and not act as a crack addict magnet needed. Volvo is the obvious choice, what else would fit the bill.

Tonights tinopening...


StRemy

358 posts

33 months

Wednesday 5th January 2022
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Maybe some locks would be a more economical option?


sherman

13,411 posts

216 months

Wednesday 5th January 2022
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I take it moving to a better area or a keeping the van in a more secure area is not an option?

As above fit better locks

What makes you think keeping £3000 of tools in a car with windows that can be seen through is a better idea than in a van?

JulietRomeo

213 posts

148 months

Wednesday 5th January 2022
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will the car ever be parked in the same spot? Won’t take them much effort to have a gander at an estate car sat a bit lower than usual parked in the same spot.

eldar

Original Poster:

21,861 posts

197 months

Thursday 6th January 2022
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sherman said:
I take it moving to a better area or a keeping the van in a more secure area is not an option?

As above fit better locks

What makes you think keeping £3000 of tools in a car with windows that can be seen through is a better idea than in a van?
Location seems irrelevant,sadly. Outside customers and tonight a leisure centre. Cctv, but the scrotes are aware, so gloves and balaclavas.

Locks a possibility, but a slabcutter takes the side of the van out in 30 seconds.

An estate is, at least, anonymous. Van break ins are endemic, and getting worse.

Heaveho

5,343 posts

175 months

Thursday 6th January 2022
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I live in fear of this. 2018 Transit Connect. Nothing of any value in it, but that doesn't stop the bds peeling the side door down to find out. I'm trying to do something about it without using the unsightly locks that seem to be the only solution at the mo. I like Transits though, they drive great, and are generally reliable.

Pistonheader101

2,206 posts

108 months

Thursday 6th January 2022
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Skoda yeti

sherman

13,411 posts

216 months

Thursday 6th January 2022
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eldar said:
sherman said:
I take it moving to a better area or a keeping the van in a more secure area is not an option?

As above fit better locks

What makes you think keeping £3000 of tools in a car with windows that can be seen through is a better idea than in a van?
Location seems irrelevant,sadly. Outside customers and tonight a leisure centre. Cctv, but the scrotes are aware, so gloves and balaclavas.

Locks a possibility, but a slabcutter takes the side of the van out in 30 seconds.

An estate is, at least, anonymous. Van break ins are endemic, and getting worse.
And a brick opens an estate in 0.2 seconds. Extra security locks will deter alot more than a normal van lock.

eldar

Original Poster:

21,861 posts

197 months

Thursday 6th January 2022
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Heaveho said:
I live in fear of this. 2018 Transit Connect. Nothing of any value in it, but that doesn't stop the bds peeling the side door down to find out. I'm trying to do something about it without using the unsightly locks that seem to be the only solution at the mo. I like Transits though, they drive great, and are generally reliable.
It is a big problem. Vans are assumed to carry a portable and easily resold load. Easy money for the scrotes, decent stuff is shipped out to Romania and reappears on ebay, less good pubs or sunday markets.

I stick to Festool stuff, at least it has some insurance and a good tracking system.

jeremyh1

1,370 posts

128 months

Thursday 6th January 2022
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I run a courier company and there is no real protection
Our insurers will only insure our goods in transit on our vehicles with the driver inside because they know that if they want it they will get it

Djtemeka

1,821 posts

193 months

Thursday 6th January 2022
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Hammer the door straight and add the securty locks and hardened plate. I had 3 break ins with the locks but they never managed to get the doors open. Then I bought the plate to cover the damage then no problem since then

Rozzers

1,779 posts

76 months

Thursday 6th January 2022
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Like bikes, with Aldi and Lidl selling battery angle grinders for £40 there is little that can resist a slitting disc. They’re cutting through hardened 15mm bike shackles and even the stands, so a a van panel and lock plate is easily cut through, as is the padlock on any locked tool store inside.

Volvo do the option of laminated side and rear windows, but it doesn’t stop them making a right mess to the value o& the tools, but if your kit fits under the load cover and you have black glass an estate or large SUV may well attract less attention than a van.

RVB

1,985 posts

82 months

Thursday 6th January 2022
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Vauxhall Zafira. Tint the rear windows if you can't keep things out of sight in the boot or under a sheet.

HelldogBE

285 posts

44 months

Thursday 6th January 2022
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JulietRomeo said:
will the car ever be parked in the same spot? Won’t take them much effort to have a gander at an estate car sat a bit lower than usual parked in the same spot.
Plenty of cars with air suspension to hide the load.

The risk of getting your (expensive) estate/SUV broken into seems a lot smaller than with a (cheaper) van. I guess trade tools are a lot less niche and easier to resell than entire cars or car parts. Also a lot easier to hide some stolen kit vs entire cars...

Paddymcc

950 posts

192 months

Thursday 6th January 2022
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Mercedes S212 E Class estate

If you remove the spare wheel and the associated supporting foam and crap under the boot floor there is a rather large compartment. When its closed again it will just look like an empty boot.

Depending upon the size of your tools it might be a solution.



Deranged Rover

3,425 posts

75 months

Thursday 6th January 2022
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A sign saying "No Tools left in this van overnight"?

Trouble is, that assumes the brainless scrotes can read, I suppose.

Venisonpie

3,310 posts

83 months

Demelitia

679 posts

57 months

Thursday 6th January 2022
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Venisonpie said:
Might lead to the van being broken in to by an entirely different breed of unsavoury character…

eldar

Original Poster:

21,861 posts

197 months

Thursday 6th January 2022
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Venisonpie said:
It did have a sticker saying 'no bodies left in van overnight'. That got stolen, oddly.

Van theft is endemic, and the costs getting out of hand. The cost of tools, repairs to the van, increased insurance premiums and lost time is getting on for 20% turnover.


stevemcs

8,703 posts

94 months

Thursday 6th January 2022
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All you can do is buy yourself time, we had a customer who wanted to upgrade the lock and I spoke to a specialist who said you can fit them but if you make it too tough and they want in they just cut a hole in the roof. That was locks for a Transporter where they punch a hole behind the sliding door handle and let themselves in