4wd SUV/Estate

[CAH706]

Hi all

I currently have a honda civic estate which I use for dog duties. Great car but time for a change.

Requirements

4wd - ideally a good 4wd system as I live in a village and the roads are tricky in the cold months. My wife isn't well so I need a car that isn't going to get stuck in case of hospital runs etc. I'll stick winters on it as well

Auto - my knee doesn't like a manual gearbox. Fine in my auto Z4

Needs to fit my dog ok. The civic estate boot is a good size. I could go slighty bigger or smaller that the civic

Reliability - ideally as good as my honda seems to be.

Mpg - not an issue. The Honda is superb on fuel but I only do c.3k Miles in it

Drive - not too bothered as it's a functional car

Estate or SUV is fine

No landrover stuff - I've done a disco sport and discovery and had nothing but issues with them despite being nearly new

Budget c.20k. I'll px my Honda and add the cash

Currently thinking

Suzuki Vitara - big enough?

Subaru Forrester - not loads of dealers around but I have a soft spot for these given I had an Impreza years ago

Hyundai kona - too small?


Any thoughts appreciated

[ZX10R NIN]

1.5T Ford Kuga Titanium X Sport

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202108096...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202111019...

1.6T Peugeot 3008 GT Line 165 these are a very good SUV:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202110288...

Allure

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202111099...

1.6T Sportage GT Line 180

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202110268...

Lexus RX450h

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202112230...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202112210...

[Johnnytheboy]

I have a Golf R Estate. 1m square boot, auto box, awd.

Cost me 19k.

It's a very good, quick car.

[CAH706]

Thanks for the suggestions

I had a Golf R Hatchback as a company car a few years back. . Liked the car but did always have a concern over theft etc. That said would be an interesting choice!

Not thought about the Peugeot, that looks a nice place to sit. I'll have a read up on the 4wd system as I'm keen that it works well for my needs. My old Nissan Xtrail (previous shape) was awesome in snow. My 3 series BMW x drive on winters was average at best.

[ZX10R NIN]

CAH706 said:

Thanks for the suggestions

I had a Golf R Hatchback as a company car a few years back. . Liked the car but did always have a concern over theft etc. That said would be an interesting choice!

Not thought about the Peugeot, that looks a nice place to sit. I'll have a read up on the 4wd system as I'm keen that it works well for my needs. My old Nissan Xtrail (previous shape) was awesome in snow. My 3 series BMW x drive on winters was average at best.

The 4WD system is the same as that used on the Golf & most cars of this type, it's the Haldex system.

[CAH706]

ZX10R NIN said:

CAH706 said:

Thanks for the suggestions

I had a Golf R Hatchback as a company car a few years back. . Liked the car but did always have a concern over theft etc. That said would be an interesting choice!

Not thought about the Peugeot, that looks a nice place to sit. I'll have a read up on the 4wd system as I'm keen that it works well for my needs. My old Nissan Xtrail (previous shape) was awesome in snow. My 3 series BMW x drive on winters was average at best.

The 4WD system is the same as that used on the Golf & most cars of this type, it's the Haldex system.

Many thanks

[PushedDover]

Audi A6 (or A4?) AllRoad. They are stopping the line / making them and many of us find them perfect for what you describe:

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

[CAH706]

I've also had the A6 allroad and that was a great car. I'll have a look and see what my budget could get as that is one I had forgotten about. Was my wife's favourite car as well!

[bern]

Gen 4 Legacy?

Half your budget would get the best of the best.

https://www.torque-gt.co.uk/legacy-050122.html

[Pica-Pica]

The usual answer for your requirements would be a Subaru. However, new ones are now hybrid and, on paper, they don’t seem that good for mpg performance etc. Perhaps an older petrol Forester or Outback (which seems quite a bit bigger).

[PH User]

OP Where do you live? Just about any car on winters should be fine for most places in the UK

[dmsims]

PH User said:

OP Where do you live? Just about any car on winters should be fine for most places in the UK

This

Watch it and learn:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfuE00qdhLA

[CAH706]

Yorkshire Dales

I've always had winter tyres which have been ok but at the minute I need to be 100% sure I can get to hospital when needed. 4wd and winters are just that bit better

[PushedDover]

Looked at the Throbbers thread ?
The love for exactly what you are looking for is HUGE

[Nickbrapp]

Passat all track? Octavia scout? Leon cupra estate?

Skoda superb 280 If you can find one, massive, massive boot, same engine as golf R

[CAH706]

PushedDover said:

Looked at the Throbbers thread ?
The love for exactly what you are looking for is HUGE

? Not sure what this means

[CAH706]

Nickbrapp said:

Passat all track? Octavia scout? Leon cupra estate?

Skoda superb 280 If you can find one, massive, massive boot, same engine as golf R

Thanks for the suggestions. Superb looks hard to find. All track is a possible though

[sam.rog]

Subaru Outback.

[PH User]

CAH706 said:

PushedDover said:

Looked at the Throbbers thread ?
The love for exactly what you are looking for is HUGE

? Not sure what this means

Urban dictionary will help with what throbber means.

[sam.rog]

bern said:

Gen 4 Legacy?

Half your budget would get the best of the best.

https://www.torque-gt.co.uk/legacy-050122.html

This one appears to have an aftermarket bumper on it.