S3 - lease vs PCP

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f1racer

Original Poster:

36 posts

93 months

Sunday 16th January 2022
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I'm thinking of buying a new S3 saloon with comfort and sound pack, and can't decided between leasing or PCP, or possibly even outright purchase.

Best approx total cost lease deals I'm seeing are:
24 months £18k
36 months £21k
48 months £25k
The best value seems to be 48 months but obviously need to factor in a year out of warranty, MOT, service and consumables like tyres.

If I went the PCP route total costs for 48 months, inc deposit, would be approx £29k with final payment of £19k to own outright. Though if I paid cash I would save just over £7k in interest!

I'm not sure how long the high used car prices would hold for, but based on the demand and high residuals for S3's, would it be worth taking the risk of PCP/buying? With the lease deals looking poor logic is swaying me away from it. Assumming I keep the car for 4 years, I would be better off even if the car was worth £19k. £19k for a 4 year old low mileage S3 seems low, even before the mad used prices.

CSLM3CSL

321 posts

144 months

Sunday 16th January 2022
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I would say the 36 month lease is better value than the 48 month presuming a 3 year warranty.

Brett748

920 posts

167 months

Sunday 16th January 2022
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I’d just buy it if I were you. It is a depreciating asset so why make it more expensive for yourself by paying interest too?

Assuming you have to money to otherwise it wouldn’t be mentioned.

Lovely car the S3 saloon.

Tall_Blk

376 posts

192 months

Sunday 16th January 2022
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What’s sort of annual mileage and deposit are you looking at and presumably, it’s the same for both leasing and PCP.

Personally depending on deposit and road fund tax included,I’ll buy it.

f1racer

Original Poster:

36 posts

93 months

Sunday 16th January 2022
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I do between 4k and 6k a year and tend to keep my cars for 4-5 years.

I'm flexible with the deposit for both lease and PCP. WIth lease I've read go with the minimum, i.e. 1 month. For PCP quote I chose £3k. Usually I'd stick to the PCP payments but the £7k interest Audi finance is charging it's making me think twice about finance.

Though I would like to try out leasing, the figures I'm finding just don't seem to stack for up a car like the S3 or Golf R, which usually hold their value really well. Calculations are telling me PCP or cash is the way to go in the scenario.

fflump

1,421 posts

39 months

Sunday 16th January 2022
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Maybe get independent financial advice rather than posting on a car forum.

mcg_

1,445 posts

93 months

Sunday 16th January 2022
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can't say for sure as we obviously don't know your financial situation. £7k in interest on a pcp sounds terrible to me (I'd love an RS3 but I'm not paying 6.4%!)

What about part cash and part bank loan.

The Cardinal

1,274 posts

253 months

Monday 17th January 2022
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The cheapest way to buy a new car will be to buy it outright, possibly with incentives for initially arranging PCP finance. It's an unusual time in the car market and many incentives to buy new are dropping away. S3 discounts still appear to be out there at "only" slightly diminished levels, though you might find some of the broker prices don't materialise as quoted.

You may get a more detailed response about your own circumstances on the Finance forum. You haven't said much about your starting position, such as whether you already have a car (part ex), details of any savings etc. But I still think it's going to be lowest cost to buy outright.

Speaking as an S3 owner who does low miles like you, I can't help but point to the value of the older models. I looked closely at buying a new 8Y model last year but came to the conclusion that it offered very few benefits (and indeed some downgrades in the interior) over the 8V model - it's basically a heavy facelift of the older car. The 2016-18 S3 is considered the best buy.

tallpaul26

459 posts

220 months

Monday 17th January 2022
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A 48 month personal lease sounds like a terrible idea simply because they afford zero flexibility. If you need to get out of the contract at any time during the term, VWFS will require 55% of the outstanding monthlies to be paid.

The finance deals on new cars are terrible at the moment. Relatively high rates and zero manufacturer contributions. There are still small dealer discounts to be negotiated but they're fairly modest.

Have you driven a new S3? I was really disappointed when I did.

f1racer

Original Poster:

36 posts

93 months

Monday 17th January 2022
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Thanks for the responses so far. I own my existing car which is worth about £15k p/x. I've got enough savings to buy in cash.

I didn't realise the VWFS inflexibility (55% of outstanding monthlies to be paid), makes leasing even more unattractive. Haven't test driven the new S3 but looking to arrange something in the next couple of weeks. Due to lack of dealer/manufacturer incentives, it looks like I'll buy outright if I like it. Even if the car is worth less than £19k after 4 years, by saving £7k interest I'm still better off, unless the car is worth less than £12k.