Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 21]

[MattsCar]

CharlesdeGaulle said:

Agreed. If you were handy you'd probably keep costs really low. Even if you weren't I bet you'd recoup your investment if you had the time or inclination to break it. Or trust in Greater Fool theory and sell when it all got too distressing.

Imagine rocking up to anywhere in this...



Mildly tempted.

[Krikkit]

Lovely colours on that too, even if it's the silly clutch box instead of the slusher that's cheap.

Very cool.

[21st Century Man]

I've been out walking up in the hills then made my way back into town through the outer suburbs, came across this, a not untypical sight really. Japan has an ageing and shrinking population and the property market is very different to the West. There's a bit of a 28 days later post apocalyptic vibe about the place, with abandoned houses, businesses and buildings, civic buildings and schools. What's probably happened here is an old boy has died, the house is a worthless liability that the family don't want, the old Supra has stood for an age and won't see another shaken (mot) and so it all just gets left to rot. There are numerous empty plots about where such places have eventually been cleared, but nothing much is going to happen after that. Possibly a new build, but unlikely.

[21st Century Man]

Yes, the apples here are amazing, huge, perfect, crisp & delicious. The smallest of trees seem to produce a huge crop and they hang onto them well after the leaves have fallen too.

[RicksAlfas]

In for the gorgeous girls and crazy cars.
Gets old apple tree and derelict house.

[BenB91]

An update for the thread, I sold my Jaguar XF SV8 last weekend.

Purchased for £7,730 in October 2021 with 58k miles and sold for £7,400 at 64k miles.

Running costs were very reasonable. Engine service, brake fluid change, new rear brake pads and a full gearbox service were circa £1k. Didn't need any new tyres in that time and pretty much everything worked perfectly.

The 4.2 supecharged V8 is the best engine I've ever had! and I hope to experience the 5.0 version in the future. Averaged 20mpg over the 6k miles.

What's next? Hopefully a BMW F10 535i Touring, or a BMW F31 340i Touring.

My other car is a Mercedes R129 SL500, which I am hoping to upgrade in 2023.

[Krikkit]

21st Century Man said:

I've been out walking up in the hills then made my way back into town through the outer suburbs, came across this, a not untypical sight really. Japan has an ageing and shrinking population and the property market is very different to the West. There's a bit of a 28 days later post apocalyptic vibe about the place, with abandoned houses, businesses and buildings, civic buildings and schools. What's probably happened here is an old boy has died, the house is a worthless liability that the family don't want, the old Supra has stood for an age and won't see another shaken (mot) and so it all just gets left to rot. There are numerous empty plots about where such places have eventually been cleared, but nothing much is going to happen after that. Possibly a new build, but unlikely.

Such a shame, I assume being a highly developed country the labour costs to think about repairing a house like that would be astronomical?

[GlenMH]

Krikkit said:

Such a shame, I assume being a highly developed country the labour costs to think about repairing a house like that would be astronomical?

No - the young are moving to the cities to find work which means that the villages are dying. And it is happening all over Japan outside the main conurbations.
Also, no-one wants old houses: they don't have the latest earthquake protection, harder to heat etc etc so properties depreciate as they get older. There is very little house "renovation" that goes on - it is largely knock down and rebuild, if it happens at all.

[Tango222]

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2022120623...

It says it has a misfire when warming up has anyone had one of these that knows what it can be?

Really interested in MK1 ls400 at the moment need to tick it off the list

[21st Century Man]

Old houses are just about worthless, they're not an appreciating asset, they're like cars or white goods and are periodically replaced. The house we're staying in was built in 2015 on a family plot, the previous house demolished. Local authorities might adopt the better empty houses, get them habitable and then offer them free to entice people to move to the area. Prosperous areas have nice valuable houses, but with a shrinking population in general there's no demand and so no value.

Browsing real estate agents is interesting, the property market in the suburbs of a happening town is as you might expect, but go out to the country a little and decent houses are really cheap or free. Young families tend to build new kit houses, there's lots of choice, like leasing a new car, there are several such new houses nearby. These houses might also be replaced in 20-30 years.

This is an interesting channel about renovation of traditional houses, which can be aquired for free or for a few thousand.

https://youtube.com/@GoodOldHousesJapan

[Bannock]

21st Century Man said:

Old houses are just about worthless, they're not an appreciating asset, they're like cars or white goods and are periodically replaced. The house we're staying in was built in 2015 on a family plot, the previous house demolished. Local authorities might adopt the better empty houses, get them habitable and then offer them free to entice people to move to the area. Prosperous areas have nice valuable houses, but with a shrinking population in general there's no demand and so no value.

Browsing real estate agents is interesting, the property market in the suburbs of a happening town is as you might expect, but go out to the country a little and decent houses are really cheap or free. Young families tend to build new kit houses, there's lots of choice, like leasing a new car, there are several such new houses nearby. These houses might also be replaced in 20-30 years.

This is an interesting channel about renovation of traditional houses, which can be aquired for free or for a few thousand.

https://youtube.com/@GoodOldHousesJapan

It's a model which has plenty going for it, I'd say. Particularly in theses times when energy consumption and the costs of it in domestic homes is in the spotlight. But in this country we're obsessed with period features and instagrammable pretty old houses and barns which are an utter pain to insulate, heat and maintain. I blame Kirsty Allsopp.

I'd prefer a brand new purpose built house, even to the relatively modern, efficient and fairly easily upgradable 1971 house I currently live in. Other people can have the problems and costs of period houses, I'll just enjoy looking at the aesthetic fruits of their efforts and expenditure from the outside, as they sit in them wondering what the next massive expenditure is going to be.

[anonymous-user]

Bannock said:

I'd prefer a brand new purpose built house, even to the relatively modern, efficient and fairly easily upgradable 1971 house I currently live in. Other people can have the problems and costs of period houses, I'll just enjoy looking at the aesthetic fruits of their efforts and expenditure from the outside, as they sit in them wondering what the next massive expenditure is going to be.

If they built the houses well I'd agree, but these tiny little hutches with ceilings that I can touch, windows the size of portholes, zero sound insulation, and built so that in the wind they shudder like a stting dog are just awful. All in some tacky mock georgian style on an horrific estate.

[Bannock]

stickleback123 said:

Bannock said:

I'd prefer a brand new purpose built house, even to the relatively modern, efficient and fairly easily upgradable 1971 house I currently live in. Other people can have the problems and costs of period houses, I'll just enjoy looking at the aesthetic fruits of their efforts and expenditure from the outside, as they sit in them wondering what the next massive expenditure is going to be.

If they built the houses well I'd agree, but these tiny little hutches with ceilings that I can touch, windows the size of portholes, zero sound insulation, and built so that in the wind they shudder like a stting dog are just awful. All in some tacky mock georgian style on an horrific estate.

Oh yeah I know there are some shockers in the UK in terms of new houses, but some are very good. When I said purpose built I meant to my own spec and quality as a private build.

[21st Century Man]

Best smoker houses 1-5 large [Vol 1]

[Krikkit]

21st Century Man said:

Old houses are just about worthless, they're not an appreciating asset, they're like cars or white goods and are periodically replaced. The house we're staying in was built in 2015 on a family plot, the previous house demolished. Local authorities might adopt the better empty houses, get them habitable and then offer them free to entice people to move to the area. Prosperous areas have nice valuable houses, but with a shrinking population in general there's no demand and so no value.

Browsing real estate agents is interesting, the property market in the suburbs of a happening town is as you might expect, but go out to the country a little and decent houses are really cheap or free. Young families tend to build new kit houses, there's lots of choice, like leasing a new car, there are several such new houses nearby. These houses might also be replaced in 20-30 years.

This is an interesting channel about renovation of traditional houses, which can be aquired for free or for a few thousand.

https://youtube.com/@GoodOldHousesJapan

Fascinating stuff, I'd heard of this kind of thing but no idea it was the norm.

I'll definitely rifle through that channel. Makes me want to up sticks across the planet now!

[anonymous-user]

21st Century Man said:

Best smoker houses 1-5 large

Show a photo of your back entrance way and get a ban.

[21st Century Man]

Many amazing stats in this article...

https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Datawatch/More-e...

"Previously owned houses account for 14% of the market in Japan"

"...foresees a steep increase in the number of unoccupied homes after 2023, predicting it will hit 23.03 million units in 2038 if the pace of house demolitions slows".

[W00DY]

Great Japan photos and interesting reading too.


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/185681671191

This looks pretty clean and a nice spec with the heated comfort seats and Style 32s.

[ruggedscotty]

21st Century Man]Best smoker houses 1-5 large [Vol 1 said:

its posts like this that make you yearn for that like button

[Rat_Fink_67]

SimonTheSailor said:

That rear spoiler can't be original can it ? Looks a bit Halfords.
Aren't these the model where everything is bespoke on it ? = a fortune to maintain ?

(No idea if the price is good/bad however....)

Very reasonably priced for such a low mileage car, almost "cheap".

There are a few bespoke pieces that are hard to come by or no longer available, mainly trim though. The OE dampers have been obsolete for years but there are aftermarket alternatives. The brakes are from an R129 SL600 so again should still be available from numerous sources. The biggest headache will be the biodegradable wiring loom, although hopefully addressed by now, and the head gaskets are a bit fickle. Mercedes-Benz no longer manufacturer them, and the 1 or 2 aftermarket solutions don't have glowing reviews.

Still a good value car though, the shove and howl from the 3.6 straight six gets very addictive!