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In the old days -- pre-drama, a 1.8L Turbo would be booted out of touch and forgotten within five pages/half an hour. In the post-r129sl-thread-updates-PH, any meaningful contribution is welcome. I don't suppose that you intend to be selling this within a few months? If so, bear-n is consolidating and doesn't have the cahoonas for an L322, evidenced by the fact that around twenty four hours have passed without a purchase.
defblade said:
...the problem I had with it was that apparently the gear selector gubbins, for no good reason I can think of, run inside the box, in the oil. And they're Hall Effect sensors rather than switches as such. So the magnets picked up the metal filings and started to refuse to recognise where the selector was. Ay first it would, maybe once every week or so, refuse to accept it was in Park, and so wouldn't let you start the engine for a while. I fitted a switch with a live from the battery under the bonnet to the starter solenoid... it didn't do it quite often enough to make me bothered to move the button into the cabin.
Then one day trying to come out of Leigh Delamare, it suddenly refused to believe it was in Drive for about half an hour.
I traded it in (problems declared) for a 156 2.0 TwinSpark the next day. (Which lasted 3 months before throwing a rod out of the engine!)
So definitely do the oil changes, and use a (strong) magnetic plug if you can to pull the metal out as much as possible.
That's very interesting, what an odd choice of control system!Then one day trying to come out of Leigh Delamare, it suddenly refused to believe it was in Drive for about half an hour.
I traded it in (problems declared) for a 156 2.0 TwinSpark the next day. (Which lasted 3 months before throwing a rod out of the engine!)
So definitely do the oil changes, and use a (strong) magnetic plug if you can to pull the metal out as much as possible.
bolidemichael said:
In the old days -- pre-drama, a 1.8L Turbo would be booted out of touch and forgotten within five pages/half an hour. In the post-r129sl-thread-updates-PH, any meaningful contribution is welcome. I don't suppose that you intend to be selling this within a few months? If so, bear-n is consolidating and doesn't have the cahoonas for an L322, evidenced by the fact that around twenty four hours have passed without a purchase.
I can only think the bear is in sunny Somerset picking this up. (Maybe in short shorts, hopefully not).Jag engine. tick.
Supercharged. tick
Not knobhead colours. tick.
Out of budget. tick (but nearly Friday).
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202206176...
RicksAlfas said:
bolidemichael said:
In the old days -- pre-drama, a 1.8L Turbo would be booted out of touch and forgotten within five pages/half an hour. In the post-r129sl-thread-updates-PH, any meaningful contribution is welcome. I don't suppose that you intend to be selling this within a few months? If so, bear-n is consolidating and doesn't have the cahoonas for an L322, evidenced by the fact that around twenty four hours have passed without a purchase.
I can only think the bear is in sunny Somerset picking this up. (Maybe in short shorts, hopefully not).Jag engine. tick.
Supercharged. tick
Not knobhead colours. tick.
Out of budget. tick (but nearly Friday).
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202206176...
Krikkit said:
defblade said:
...the problem I had with it was that apparently the gear selector gubbins, for no good reason I can think of, run inside the box, in the oil. And they're Hall Effect sensors rather than switches as such. So the magnets picked up the metal filings and started to refuse to recognise where the selector was. Ay first it would, maybe once every week or so, refuse to accept it was in Park, and so wouldn't let you start the engine for a while. I fitted a switch with a live from the battery under the bonnet to the starter solenoid... it didn't do it quite often enough to make me bothered to move the button into the cabin.
Then one day trying to come out of Leigh Delamare, it suddenly refused to believe it was in Drive for about half an hour.
I traded it in (problems declared) for a 156 2.0 TwinSpark the next day. (Which lasted 3 months before throwing a rod out of the engine!)
So definitely do the oil changes, and use a (strong) magnetic plug if you can to pull the metal out as much as possible.
That's very interesting, what an odd choice of control system!Then one day trying to come out of Leigh Delamare, it suddenly refused to believe it was in Drive for about half an hour.
I traded it in (problems declared) for a 156 2.0 TwinSpark the next day. (Which lasted 3 months before throwing a rod out of the engine!)
So definitely do the oil changes, and use a (strong) magnetic plug if you can to pull the metal out as much as possible.
I was talking recently about the ridiculously overcomplicated and obviously doomed to expensive failure that VAG and to a much lesser extent BMW seem to favour. I have the dubious fortune of working with accountants a lot, and I've found that if we face a problem and they can lash up a "solution" to a problem that involves tens of man hours per month, a ridiculous manual process that must be carried out forever, and ideally a new hire then they consider the problem "solved" and just move on. I always have to stop them in their tracks and point out that this is absolutely NOT a solution to a software problem and usually come up with an actual solution myself.
I can't help but think that the engineers at VAG come up with that initial lash up solution (run another chain down here, run it through an idler to another drive for a layshaft that runs from the front to the back of the engine, mount the AC compressor underneath the engine right next to the engine mount, drive it off a rubber belt from the idle shaft and the job is done!!) but there is nobody to tell them "for f
k sake no, that's absolutely awful" so that ends up being their "solution".RicksAlfas said:
I can only think the bear is in sunny Somerset picking this up. (Maybe in short shorts, hopefully not).
Jag engine. tick.
Supercharged. tick
Not knobhead colours. tick.
Out of budget. tick (but nearly Friday).
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202206176...
Classy-looking thing. I like. Jag engine. tick.
Supercharged. tick
Not knobhead colours. tick.
Out of budget. tick (but nearly Friday).
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202206176...
I am not, but that is lovely - and all the money. Way too much for my fantasy.
The missus wants to buy a campervan at the moment and I'm skeptical (the romantic freedom one imagines I fear would be just staying on a campsite or stting in a box - plus the proposed budget is moon mileage Mazda bongo territory - barf). However she also hates my Volvo with a passion, so is keen for me to get a RR - as wreckless as it may be - and was further swayed when I said "and it can double as a campervan".
So I've potentially played a blinder, or massively cocked-up by overselling its capabilities.
Priority at the moment is get the roof cleaned & restored on the Z4 so it's ready for sale - it's letting rest of the car down.
If you're bored enough to still be reading this bilge, is there a 'better' RR forum over the other does anyone know? Ta!
The missus wants to buy a campervan at the moment and I'm skeptical (the romantic freedom one imagines I fear would be just staying on a campsite or s
tting in a box - plus the proposed budget is moon mileage Mazda bongo territory - barf). However she also hates my Volvo with a passion, so is keen for me to get a RR - as wreckless as it may be - and was further swayed when I said "and it can double as a campervan". So I've potentially played a blinder, or massively cocked-up by overselling its capabilities.
Priority at the moment is get the roof cleaned & restored on the Z4 so it's ready for sale - it's letting rest of the car down.
If you're bored enough to still be reading this bilge, is there a 'better' RR forum over the other does anyone know? Ta!
Bear-n said:
I am not, but that is lovely - and all the money. Way too much for my fantasy.
The missus wants to buy a campervan at the moment and I'm skeptical (the romantic freedom one imagines I fear would be just staying on a campsite or stting in a box - plus the proposed budget is moon mileage Mazda bongo territory - barf). However she also hates my Volvo with a passion, so is keen for me to get a RR - as wreckless as it may be - and was further swayed when I said "and it can double as a campervan".
So I've potentially played a blinder, or massively cocked-up.
Priority at the moment is get the roof cleaned & restored on the Z4 so it's ready for sale - it's letting rest of the car down.
If you're bored enough to still be reading this bilge, is there a 'better' RR forum over the other does anyone know? Ta!
This one has its own camping section!The missus wants to buy a campervan at the moment and I'm skeptical (the romantic freedom one imagines I fear would be just staying on a campsite or s
tting in a box - plus the proposed budget is moon mileage Mazda bongo territory - barf). However she also hates my Volvo with a passion, so is keen for me to get a RR - as wreckless as it may be - and was further swayed when I said "and it can double as a campervan". So I've potentially played a blinder, or massively cocked-up.
Priority at the moment is get the roof cleaned & restored on the Z4 so it's ready for sale - it's letting rest of the car down.
If you're bored enough to still be reading this bilge, is there a 'better' RR forum over the other does anyone know? Ta!
https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/
The main thing if you are going petrol is to get a Jag engine. Use a reg checker to confirm the cc is 4,394. The BMW is 4,398cc.
Any supercharged petrol is Jag based. You can sometimes find a Jag engined one with sensible RFL as they came out in 2006.
RicksAlfas said:
bolidemichael said:
In the old days -- pre-drama, a 1.8L Turbo would be booted out of touch and forgotten within five pages/half an hour. In the post-r129sl-thread-updates-PH, any meaningful contribution is welcome. I don't suppose that you intend to be selling this within a few months? If so, bear-n is consolidating and doesn't have the cahoonas for an L322, evidenced by the fact that around twenty four hours have passed without a purchase.
I can only think the bear is in sunny Somerset picking this up. (Maybe in short shorts, hopefully not).Jag engine. tick.
Supercharged. tick
Not knobhead colours. tick.
Out of budget. tick (but nearly Friday).
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202206176...
RicksAlfas said:
Bear-n said:
I am not, but that is lovely - and all the money. Way too much for my fantasy.
The missus wants to buy a campervan at the moment and I'm skeptical (the romantic freedom one imagines I fear would be just staying on a campsite or stting in a box - plus the proposed budget is moon mileage Mazda bongo territory - barf). However she also hates my Volvo with a passion, so is keen for me to get a RR - as wreckless as it may be - and was further swayed when I said "and it can double as a campervan".
So I've potentially played a blinder, or massively cocked-up.
Priority at the moment is get the roof cleaned & restored on the Z4 so it's ready for sale - it's letting rest of the car down.
If you're bored enough to still be reading this bilge, is there a 'better' RR forum over the other does anyone know? Ta!
This one has its own camping section!The missus wants to buy a campervan at the moment and I'm skeptical (the romantic freedom one imagines I fear would be just staying on a campsite or s
tting in a box - plus the proposed budget is moon mileage Mazda bongo territory - barf). However she also hates my Volvo with a passion, so is keen for me to get a RR - as wreckless as it may be - and was further swayed when I said "and it can double as a campervan". So I've potentially played a blinder, or massively cocked-up.
Priority at the moment is get the roof cleaned & restored on the Z4 so it's ready for sale - it's letting rest of the car down.
If you're bored enough to still be reading this bilge, is there a 'better' RR forum over the other does anyone know? Ta!
https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/
The main thing if you are going petrol is to get a Jag engine. Use a reg checker to confirm the cc is 4,394. The BMW is 4,398cc.
Any supercharged petrol is Jag based. You can sometimes find a Jag engined one with sensible RFL as they came out in 2006.
defblade said:
- I think there should be a lot more on this when learning and in the driving test. We spend a long time on teaching how to drive when everything's perfect, but very little on when something's not. An hour on a skid pan should be mandatory, for a start. How to not panic, assess escape routes, signal and move to safety when something like your engine or power steering cuts out. Things you can do if your brakes fail. I'm sure there's more.
I had the aux belt fail on my car as I was negotiation a level crossing. Only a problem because the road ran parallel to the railway, then a 90 left onto the tracks and 90 right off again. I suddenly lost power steering as I turned onto the crossing. My wife would have panicked.
My brakes have failed twice in 52 years driving - once when I was just 21, at the 39th of 41 hairpin bends coming down the Gross Glocker Hochalpenstrasse in Austria, and once at 120 mph on a track day much more recently, when I had boiled the brake fluid by fitting agressive new pads without changing the fluid. School boy error, but I am a superannuated schoolboy at heart, 68 outside but still 16 inside, and long may that remain
Comment to Bear-n.
Once you get to the size of campervan that is actually a nice place to be for two weeks, you are into 7-8 metres of fun palace on wheels.
You may find that a Rangie and a caravan is a much cheaper and a much neater solution than a motorhome that is too big to park in any town near to where you are visiting.
As you and Mrs Grizzly may well realise when you both go camper shopping, that the internal layout of both caravans and their motorised cousins, once you get above VW Transporter size, is pretty much identical.The caravan version just has no engine and more space in the front.
There are arguments for and against both. I would heartily recommend you borrow or hire a camper van of the size you are considering for a few days before you commit to buying.
That way you will discover what it is really like before you have parted with serious wedge.
On the plus side, they really hold their value well so long as you keep them properly serviced. And do join the Caravan and Motorhome Club. It's not cliquey like the Ferrari owners club, and they have lots of useful discounts and advice, plus the best sites in the country for staying at. No stting in a box for my Mrs.
Once you get to the size of campervan that is actually a nice place to be for two weeks, you are into 7-8 metres of fun palace on wheels.
You may find that a Rangie and a caravan is a much cheaper and a much neater solution than a motorhome that is too big to park in any town near to where you are visiting.
As you and Mrs Grizzly may well realise when you both go camper shopping, that the internal layout of both caravans and their motorised cousins, once you get above VW Transporter size, is pretty much identical.The caravan version just has no engine and more space in the front.
There are arguments for and against both. I would heartily recommend you borrow or hire a camper van of the size you are considering for a few days before you commit to buying.
That way you will discover what it is really like before you have parted with serious wedge.
On the plus side, they really hold their value well so long as you keep them properly serviced. And do join the Caravan and Motorhome Club. It's not cliquey like the Ferrari owners club, and they have lots of useful discounts and advice, plus the best sites in the country for staying at. No s
tting in a box for my Mrs.Krikkit said:
If you want it for camping I'd get one of those roof rack camping tents, then you've got all the interior space for gear, and the handy fold-down tailgate for sitting/cooking etc while you're out and about.
If I'm being entirely honest, I think I only want a FFRR for the tailgate!Thanks for the info so far - some really helpful pointers but I'll be sure not to unintentionally monopolise thread.
There's a lot of reading to be done, and to be honest I hate this bit - seemingly endless research, trying to filter out what is just repeated folklore from people that have never owned "x" car. When I bought my Volvo 14 year ago, I just saw it had all the toys, 2.0t petrol, cream interior and bought it.
Now I have to look up up everything, ensure all preventative stuff has been done, make sure the important options are ticked. I mean, I get it, but the Volvo's been bloody faultless and I bought that unseen from a trader who drove it over to Leeds on a Sunday morning for asking price. And it's not just because the RR is a heavy beast, it's the same with the Z4!
Anyhow, as my relatively young mechanic says whenever he works on the Volvo "they don't make them like this anymore". Maybe he's right.
Anyhow, how reassuring is this grill? And in the lower ved crossover. Shame it's a black interior (and no idea whether good value - too early on in "researching")
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2022031034...
Edit: Thank you, Q-bee. Interesting points, and I want to support Lady Grizzly in her romantic ideas of escapism. We did touch on a caravan idea but neither of us has a car that could tow one presently (2 x Z4's, mini paceman and a piece of crap S40 between us). A FFRR would solve that
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So I'm actually being selfless!
Love this place. Thank you
Edited by Bear-n on Thursday 11th August 17:16
Krikkit said:
RicksAlfas said:
Bear-n said:
I am not, but that is lovely - and all the money. Way too much for my fantasy.
The missus wants to buy a campervan at the moment and I'm skeptical (the romantic freedom one imagines I fear would be just staying on a campsite or stting in a box - plus the proposed budget is moon mileage Mazda bongo territory - barf). However she also hates my Volvo with a passion, so is keen for me to get a RR - as wreckless as it may be - and was further swayed when I said "and it can double as a campervan".
So I've potentially played a blinder, or massively cocked-up.
Priority at the moment is get the roof cleaned & restored on the Z4 so it's ready for sale - it's letting rest of the car down.
If you're bored enough to still be reading this bilge, is there a 'better' RR forum over the other does anyone know? Ta!
This one has its own camping section!The missus wants to buy a campervan at the moment and I'm skeptical (the romantic freedom one imagines I fear would be just staying on a campsite or s
tting in a box - plus the proposed budget is moon mileage Mazda bongo territory - barf). However she also hates my Volvo with a passion, so is keen for me to get a RR - as wreckless as it may be - and was further swayed when I said "and it can double as a campervan". So I've potentially played a blinder, or massively cocked-up.
Priority at the moment is get the roof cleaned & restored on the Z4 so it's ready for sale - it's letting rest of the car down.
If you're bored enough to still be reading this bilge, is there a 'better' RR forum over the other does anyone know? Ta!
https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/
The main thing if you are going petrol is to get a Jag engine. Use a reg checker to confirm the cc is 4,394. The BMW is 4,398cc.
Any supercharged petrol is Jag based. You can sometimes find a Jag engined one with sensible RFL as they came out in 2006.
bolidemichael said:
bear-n, why a supercharged? Is it 'go big or go home'? The NA 4.4L AJV8 is also a very nice engine with ample power.
Because ignorance at this point and being steered by the internet. I really don't care about speed (will that get me banned?) - It's a massive bus for lording it about in as far as I'm concerned, but I'd just like something that I can afford to run without monopolisung my life and also move on if needed/I run out of money.
Edit: I don't plan on running it on a shoestring btw. What's got me to this dangerous place is spending nearly £3k on mostly preventative maintenance on the zed in a year, and frankly I'd much rather have spent that on a RR - and I'd also prefer to only run one car.
Edited by Bear-n on Friday 12th August 01:50
Bear-n said:
bolidemichael said:
bear-n, why a supercharged? Is it 'go big or go home'? The NA 4.4L AJV8 is also a very nice engine with ample power.
Because ignorance at this point and being steered by the internet. I really don't care about speed (will that get me banned?) - It's a massive bus for lording it about in as far as I'm concerned, but I'd just like something that I can afford to run without monopolisung my life and also move on if needed/I run out of money.
Edit: I don't plan on running it on a shoestring btw. What's got me to this dangerous place is spending nearly £3k on mostly preventative maintenance on the zed in a year, and frankly I'd much rather have spent that on a RR - and I'd also prefer to only run one car.
Edited by Bear-n on Friday 12th August 01:50
plasticpig said:
A tad over budget but this E38 740 low mileage looks pretty good and even claims to have a decent fuel tank:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202208098...
I had a poverty spec E38 over a decade ago now, very comfortable barge for the £600 I paid.https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202208098...
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