Secondhand car price crash?

Secondhand car price crash?

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e-honda

8,933 posts

147 months

Sunday 17th March
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Standard Porsche mechanic attire isn't it?

paulguitar

23,653 posts

114 months

Sunday 17th March
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e-honda said:
Standard Porsche mechanic attire isn't it?
I think the issue is that he's about to put his luggage into the engine.



ChocolateFrog

25,603 posts

174 months

Sunday 17th March
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paulguitar said:
e-honda said:
Standard Porsche mechanic attire isn't it?
I think the issue is that he's about to put his luggage into the engine.
Whoosh.

That's his tools.

paulguitar

23,653 posts

114 months

Sunday 17th March
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ChocolateFrog said:
paulguitar said:
e-honda said:
Standard Porsche mechanic attire isn't it?
I think the issue is that he's about to put his luggage into the engine.
Whoosh.

That's his tools.
laugh


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Theoldguard

836 posts

59 months

Monday 18th March
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What do these discounts tell us about the market or more specific the EV market

Just over 2k miles and £36.6k off list price.

It's the PCP monthlies at less than what alot of cheaper vehicles would cost, and then the optional final price that seems optimistic in 2 years considering the selling price new and the way used EVs fair

Who is taking the hit on these losses, there does not seem to be a shortage of them either so further discounting a possibility.


https://www.arnoldclark.com/nearly-new-cars/merced...


Edited by Theoldguard on Monday 18th March 15:48

Deep Thought

35,877 posts

198 months

Monday 18th March
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Theoldguard said:
What do these discounts tell us about the market or more specific the EV market

Just over 2k miles and £36.6k off list price.

It's the PCP monthlies at less than what alot of cheaper vehicles would cost, and then the optional final price that seems optimistic in 2 years considering the selling price new and the way used EVs fair

Who is taking the hit on these losses, there does not seem to be a shortage of them either so further discounting a possibility.


https://www.arnoldclark.com/nearly-new-cars/merced...


Edited by Theoldguard on Monday 18th March 15:48
Thats an amazing piece of kit for that money.

Presumably - ex lease or ex management cars? I'm sure someone on here will know.

I see theres £500 put in to the finance by Mercedes.

PCP APR isnt great but is someone needs to PCP theres probably alternative PCP funding sources out there.

caffeinehigh

6 posts

110 months

Monday 18th March
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Anyone else browsing in the sort of 6 - 8k price range noticed an improvement? Just going on Autotrader I'm starting to see the money go a bit further recently.

e-honda

8,933 posts

147 months

Monday 18th March
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In 1 year that car dropped £35k in year 1, then they give you a used PCP that says in year 2 and 3 it will drop another £7.5k
Unless the market does a strong recovery they'll be taking another hit on that in 2 years time

Deep Thought

35,877 posts

198 months

Monday 18th March
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e-honda said:
In 1 year that car dropped £35k in year 1, then they give you a used PCP that says in year 2 and 3 it will drop another £7.5k
Unless the market does a strong recovery they'll be taking another hit on that in 2 years time
You make a very good point.

You can buy 3 year old EQC AMG Lines with sub 30K miles (low miles + 24,000 miles of the agreement) from dealers for £30K....

Indecision

402 posts

81 months

Monday 18th March
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Absolutely no help to this thread whatsoever - however this morning I watched someone sell a Cullinan to WBAC (in a hotel car park).

I tried, but the WBAC guy wouldn’t tell me what they paid for it. Would love to know the back story behind that one!

Fast Bug

11,739 posts

162 months

Monday 18th March
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Deep Thought said:
Theoldguard said:
What do these discounts tell us about the market or more specific the EV market

Just over 2k miles and £36.6k off list price.

It's the PCP monthlies at less than what alot of cheaper vehicles would cost, and then the optional final price that seems optimistic in 2 years considering the selling price new and the way used EVs fair

Who is taking the hit on these losses, there does not seem to be a shortage of them either so further discounting a possibility.


https://www.arnoldclark.com/nearly-new-cars/merced...


Edited by Theoldguard on Monday 18th March 15:48
Thats an amazing piece of kit for that money.

Presumably - ex lease or ex management cars? I'm sure someone on here will know.

I see theres £500 put in to the finance by Mercedes.

PCP APR isnt great but is someone needs to PCP theres probably alternative PCP funding sources out there.
Probably too new to be ex lease, could be ex demo or MBUK car. EQC production finished a while back and there was strong support to get the last units gone

e-honda

8,933 posts

147 months

Monday 18th March
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I like the idea of borrowing one of these for a couple of years for £15k then possibly being able to buy it for £25k

The Rotrex Kid

30,371 posts

161 months

Monday 18th March
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I’ve been tempted to buy a couple for our rental fleet, they do look amazing value for money.

e-honda

8,933 posts

147 months

Monday 18th March
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Do 2023 EVs potentially get hit with luxury car tax at some stage or are they still exempt after the changes that hit new ones?

I think insurance could potentially be the kicker as well

The Rotrex Kid

30,371 posts

161 months

Monday 18th March
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e-honda said:
Do 2023 EVs potentially get hit with luxury car tax at some stage or are they still exempt after the changes that hit new ones?

I think insurance could potentially be the kicker as well
Yes they will get knocked for the full luxury amount soon!

The Rotrex Kid

30,371 posts

161 months

Monday 18th March
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e-honda said:
Do 2023 EVs potentially get hit with luxury car tax at some stage or are they still exempt after the changes that hit new ones?

I think insurance could potentially be the kicker as well
Yes they will get knocked for the full luxury amount soon!

clockworks

5,387 posts

146 months

Monday 18th March
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e-honda said:
Do 2023 EVs potentially get hit with luxury car tax at some stage or are they still exempt after the changes that hit new ones?

I think insurance could potentially be the kicker as well
AFAIK, no. The luxury car supplement will only apply to new EVs registered after April 2025.

The standard tax rate will apply to all cars registered after 2017.

Auto810graphy

1,409 posts

93 months

Monday 18th March
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Deep Thought said:
Thats an amazing piece of kit for that money.

Presumably - ex lease or ex management cars? I'm sure someone on here will know.

I see theres £500 put in to the finance by Mercedes.

PCP APR isnt great but is someone needs to PCP theres probably alternative PCP funding sources out there.
They were pre registered with delivery mileage by Mercedes late 2023, most likely to hit an EV registration target or just clear the decks of old stock.

There were some PCP bargains around as some funders are slow to reduce their Residual Values in line with market trends. When these cars were being offered in the trade by another dealer group they were closer to £45k (they would have put a £750 admin fee across each) so I can only assume Arnold Clark got a further volume discount.

Fast Bug

11,739 posts

162 months

Monday 18th March
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Under agency model the only way Arnie got a bigger discount would be if he registered them through his rental fleet. For demos everyone will get the same support regardless of how many they take

Deep Thought

35,877 posts

198 months

Monday 18th March
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Indecision said:
Absolutely no help to this thread whatsoever - however this morning I watched someone sell a Cullinan to WBAC (in a hotel car park).

I tried, but the WBAC guy wouldn’t tell me what they paid for it. Would love to know the back story behind that one!
Did you get the reg? You could plug it in to WBAC and it'll give you the headline figure at least.
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