Secondhand car price crash?

Secondhand car price crash?

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Fast Bug

11,742 posts

162 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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Huge changes to the JLR network coming

https://cardealermagazine.co.uk/publish/exclusive-...

squirdan

1,084 posts

148 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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ashleyman said:
Evil.soup said:
Niponeoff said:
CG2020UK said:
ChrisH72 said:
There was a joke comment about a postman a couple of pages back. Well, my barber has just bought one of those new 240i coupes. Seriously!
My barber bought a brand new RS5 about 3-4 years ago. He was 26 at the time. Owns his own place.
They should all be driving RS6's, 15 pound a pop near me and that was a few years ago. I've done my own since covid.

The Turkish one is good, they burn off your ear hair too hehe
Same here, I find the Turks seem to have a preference for a nice AMG though
My old barber had a very nice C63S AMG. He took me out after my cut and let me have a go. Very fun but very juicy!
My guy has one of those fake G classes, based on a Suzuki Jimny, fully murdered out, Brabus kit. Quite convincing from a distance. He reckons its worth £60k plus. Not my bag for whats a pretty weedy car underneath, but it takes all sorts...

Evil.soup

3,595 posts

206 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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squirdan said:
My guy has one of those fake G classes, based on a Suzuki Jimny, fully murdered out, Brabus kit. Quite convincing from a distance. He reckons its worth £60k plus. Not my bag for whats a pretty weedy car underneath, but it takes all sorts...
Never knew that was even a thing??

Still Mulling

12,525 posts

178 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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Fast Bug said:
Huge changes to the JLR network coming

https://cardealermagazine.co.uk/publish/exclusive-...
What about used cars? Sorry if it's a stupid question.

ChrisH72

2,219 posts

53 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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I read yesterday that Porsche is planning to hike prices of their EV's by 10 to 15% this year. With how things are looking that would seem a very brave move.

av185

18,529 posts

128 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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ChrisH72 said:
I read yesterday that Porsche is planning to hike prices of their EV's by 10 to 15% this year. With how things are looking that would seem a very brave move.
Yep as previously posted it looks like further large price increases will now affect both Porsche ICE and EV cars from the middle of this year with the aim of sustaining and increasing 2022 profits as despite headwinds Porsche are so confident of their strong branding and customer base.

Looks like there will be a two tier pricing structure as new EVs become increasingly more expensive.

scot_aln

420 posts

200 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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Will be interesting to see how that works out with the likely pension changes coming tomorrow. Higher earners salary sacrificing to reduce tax and using man maths to buy an expensive electric toy may have alternate finance options.

J1990

820 posts

54 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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ChrisH72 said:
I read yesterday that Porsche is planning to hike prices of their EV's by 10 to 15% this year. With how things are looking that would seem a very brave move.
Well, that would be an interesting choice when the rest of the market is dropping their sales prices for BEVs and/or offering larger deposit contributions (I saw £k from Mercedes, Tesla have been clear with their prices drops and hopefully Ford will drop their UK Mache-E prices the way they dropped their US price).

replenished

3 posts

14 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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What's the thoughts on USED electric car values dropping any time soon. Seems no real change in 2021 used cars with the new number plate issuance that just occurred. Still 54 weeks to get a new car built. No price drops on even 2021 cars any time soon?

I'm looking to buy a 2021 used electric car but struggling to find one £5k lower for price I need so I can buy outright.

The dealer also said "Having just realigned the price of this vehicle to sit competitively within the Skoda Approved Network, unfortunately there's not a lot more I can do than let you know if anything similar to your requirement materialises..."

In anyones experience does the above reply mean no hope of any price reduction?

scot_aln

420 posts

200 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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Looking at some comments on trade bids on electric vehicles then is auction a possibility? From what has been said the spread of trade to retail is pretty significant on EV.

brickwall

5,253 posts

211 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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J1990 said:
ChrisH72 said:
I read yesterday that Porsche is planning to hike prices of their EV's by 10 to 15% this year. With how things are looking that would seem a very brave move.
Well, that would be an interesting choice when the rest of the market is dropping their sales prices for BEVs and/or offering larger deposit contributions (I saw £k from Mercedes, Tesla have been clear with their prices drops and hopefully Ford will drop their UK Mache-E prices the way they dropped their US price).
It is one hell of a punchy “confidence in our product” move by Porsche. I’m sure their new Macan EV will be superior to a Model Y; but they be able to sustain a big price gap (whether list or monthly payment) to the Tesla? Who knows.

ashleyman

6,993 posts

100 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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ChrisH72 said:
I read yesterday that Porsche is planning to hike prices of their EV's by 10 to 15% this year. With how things are looking that would seem a very brave move.
VW going up 3% on April 1st.

Still Mulling

12,525 posts

178 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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replenished said:
What's the thoughts on USED electric car values dropping any time soon. Seems no real change in 2021 used cars with the new number plate issuance that just occurred. Still 54 weeks to get a new car built. No price drops on even 2021 cars any time soon?

I'm looking to buy a 2021 used electric car but struggling to find one £5k lower for price I need so I can buy outright.

The dealer also said "Having just realigned the price of this vehicle to sit competitively within the Skoda Approved Network, unfortunately there's not a lot more I can do than let you know if anything similar to your requirement materialises..."

In anyones experience does the above reply mean no hope of any price reduction?
I have started to see drops on Teslas, Enyaqs, and Ioniq 5s.EV^s slower to drop, but have longer lead times new. It's starting to shift, with Teslas being accelerated by their new pricing choices.

nickfrog

21,278 posts

218 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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scot_aln said:
Will be interesting to see how that works out with the likely pension changes coming tomorrow. Higher earners salary sacrificing to reduce tax and using man maths to buy an expensive electric toy may have alternate finance options.
It might not be just man maths. If you suddenly save 40% tax on money that you couldn't put away because you were close to the LTA then suddenly you know you will soon have increased your disposable income if you're close to 55. Might not benefit that many people though.

stevemcs

8,695 posts

94 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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Fast Bug said:
Huge changes to the JLR network coming

https://cardealermagazine.co.uk/publish/exclusive-...
Is that JLR getting ready to ditch Jaguar all together and either sell it on or just shut it down.

confused_buyer

6,650 posts

182 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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Is it me or is every manufacturer deciding the future is raising their prices, increasing their margins and lowering their volume?

Now for some that'll work and be great but anyone who does that better be very, very sure their products are actually good enough to command these prices because cheaper alternatives will arrive under them and they could be left in no mans land.

Just because it worked during post COVID parts shortages doesn't mean it'll work forever.

skinnyman

1,646 posts

94 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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confused_buyer said:
Is it me or is every manufacturer deciding the future is raising their prices, increasing their margins and lowering their volume?

Now for some that'll work and be great but anyone who does that better be very, very sure their products are actually good enough to command these prices because cheaper alternatives will arrive under them and they could be left in no mans land.

Just because it worked during post COVID parts shortages doesn't mean it'll work forever.
Some will get away with it, but I can't see how manufacturers like Ford will by trying to Sell Kuga's and the like for £45k+, not with Chinese EVs on the horizon too

stevemcs

8,695 posts

94 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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skinnyman said:
Some will get away with it, but I can't see how manufacturers like Ford will by trying to Sell Kuga's and the like for £45k+, not with Chinese EVs on the horizon too
https://youtu.be/Cnj3zv1jDmg

Auto810graphy

1,409 posts

93 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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replenished said:
What's the thoughts on USED electric car values dropping any time soon. Seems no real change in 2021 used cars with the new number plate issuance that just occurred. Still 54 weeks to get a new car built. No price drops on even 2021 cars any time soon?

I'm looking to buy a 2021 used electric car but struggling to find one £5k lower for price I need so I can buy outright.

The dealer also said "Having just realigned the price of this vehicle to sit competitively within the Skoda Approved Network, unfortunately there's not a lot more I can do than let you know if anything similar to your requirement materialises..."

In anyones experience does the above reply mean no hope of any price reduction?
It sounds to me like you don’t have the budget so it’s unlikely you will find a car.

I am not sure where you are looking but EV’s have done about 20% of their values compared to 6 months ago. Over the past month there have been some massive losses within the trade but some trade buyers are now buying again and prices are actually starting to stabilise as dealers are moving the cars they have recently purchased. The one’s suffering are the dealers with cars they purchased 90-120 days ago as they are being undercut and having to sell at massive losses.


Niponeoff

2,147 posts

28 months

Wednesday 15th March 2023
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Auto810graphy said:
replenished said:
What's the thoughts on USED electric car values dropping any time soon. Seems no real change in 2021 used cars with the new number plate issuance that just occurred. Still 54 weeks to get a new car built. No price drops on even 2021 cars any time soon?

I'm looking to buy a 2021 used electric car but struggling to find one £5k lower for price I need so I can buy outright.

The dealer also said "Having just realigned the price of this vehicle to sit competitively within the Skoda Approved Network, unfortunately there's not a lot more I can do than let you know if anything similar to your requirement materialises..."

In anyones experience does the above reply mean no hope of any price reduction?
It sounds to me like you don’t have the budget so it’s unlikely you will find a car.

I am not sure where you are looking but EV’s have done about 20% of their values compared to 6 months ago. Over the past month there have been some massive losses within the trade but some trade buyers are now buying again and prices are actually starting to stabilise as dealers are moving the cars they have recently purchased. The one’s suffering are the dealers with cars they purchased 90-120 days ago as they are being undercut and having to sell at massive losses.
a few grand.

not withstanding the massive profits they've been making recently.
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