Replacement for a Z4
Discussion
plenty said:
Ok. I consider it a shame that a small but relevant sidetrack that actually contains some potentially valuable info for Z4 owners makes you feel uncomfortable enough to shut it down, but it's your thread.
Not really. You said something, others replied, you disagreed with everything everyone said and continued. It wasn't going to be a short sidetrack. You then said why shouldn't the pros and cons of a Z4 be discussed on a thread about what car to buy next, which really has quite an obvious answer, because its a thread about any car BUT the Z4.
Not uncomfortable at all, I just want to see posts of actual value like C70Rs suggesting the Alfa option and so on and so forth.
TameRacingDriver said:
A possible left field choice but how about a Mégane RS 250 / 265 / 275 (whichever falls into budget?)
I did consider this myself, and certainly they seem to be well regarded as a driver's car and although FWD they do seem to have something else about them compared with their contemporaries.
Actually this is a really good shout...I hadnt considered them.I did consider this myself, and certainly they seem to be well regarded as a driver's car and although FWD they do seem to have something else about them compared with their contemporaries.
Looking at Autotrader now, the 250s seems to be in and around the 7k mark, 265s 9k plus. Are the 265s worth the extra few grand? Given you could probably add a mild map to the 250 power wise, do they have other improvements i.e handling?
TameRacingDriver said:
Well you know how much of a scatter brain I am when it comes to cars. I didn't rule anything out in my search, at least not immediately, the only surprise in the end was me going back to a car I've had before in almost exactly same configuration, which is not something I've been in the habit of doing, but hey it is what it is and I'm sure next year or thereafter there will be another big TRD thread of me looking for the next best thing, either when I get bored or when the engine detonates 
I have to say, the allure of back seats is there. I have an 11 year old boy, and as much as me and him go out and enjoy two seater fun sometimes we by default as a family have to take the Qashqai and on the way think I could be doing this journey in something a bit more enjoyable...Well what I have found after two good shouts...the GTV and the Renault...
Seems that V6 GTVs are pretty rare not many about, I do like the look of them though. The Renault was very left field but I am really liking the idea of trying out something FWD.
I did actually test drive a few RCZ Rs before the Z4, I do like them for their uniqueness. So open to the idea of something French FWD and four seats (although the RCZ is stretching that a bit).
Seems that V6 GTVs are pretty rare not many about, I do like the look of them though. The Renault was very left field but I am really liking the idea of trying out something FWD.
I did actually test drive a few RCZ Rs before the Z4, I do like them for their uniqueness. So open to the idea of something French FWD and four seats (although the RCZ is stretching that a bit).
And the last 3 pages is exactly why I didn't want this to go down the route of discussing the Z4C as a sports car.
What I knew would transpire has done exactly that. Its not about a discussion about the pros and cons of the car, its about proving above all else that the car is hugely flawed and not moving from that position until argument is won.
In other news...I looked at GTVs online and I dont think they are for me.
I am though thinking:
987 90k ish miles Boxster S they are kicking around the 9k entry point...am I in for a world of pain though? I read on another buying thread (981 vs 987) that bore score and IMS are very low chance issues on these cars.
Renaultsport Megane Cup 250, I really like the look of these, and the back seats for my 11 year old would be amazing, we wouldnt have to use the wifes Qashqai as a default choice for the three of us. Also I like the idea of trying FWD in the car that won all the awards for it
...dare i say it, a Z4 roadster 3.0i. This would be the best for putting cash back in my pocket. Its a drop top so a whole different world of motoring. But will it be different enough for me.
What I knew would transpire has done exactly that. Its not about a discussion about the pros and cons of the car, its about proving above all else that the car is hugely flawed and not moving from that position until argument is won.
In other news...I looked at GTVs online and I dont think they are for me.
I am though thinking:
987 90k ish miles Boxster S they are kicking around the 9k entry point...am I in for a world of pain though? I read on another buying thread (981 vs 987) that bore score and IMS are very low chance issues on these cars.
Renaultsport Megane Cup 250, I really like the look of these, and the back seats for my 11 year old would be amazing, we wouldnt have to use the wifes Qashqai as a default choice for the three of us. Also I like the idea of trying FWD in the car that won all the awards for it
...dare i say it, a Z4 roadster 3.0i. This would be the best for putting cash back in my pocket. Its a drop top so a whole different world of motoring. But will it be different enough for me.
Thanks C70R TRD Lee.
My mate who lives just down the road (I am near Twickenham Stadium) has an auto 03 plate 3.0i. I do really like the look of his, and it is pretty much comparable in a straight line with my coupe. But he does have those problems like trying to relocate the roof motor is proving an absolute b
h for example. In terms of the roof, I used to use 303 Sealant on my old VX220 and it had quite spectacular results when done properly. He hasnt made any performance mods to it like suspension etc. and runs on 18s so be interesting to see what yours comes back with C70R
But yes, for the money, not much comes near it. For 5k you can get a straight 6 convertible that looks wise has aged really well and is one of the more reliable BMWs out there. A lot to be liked about it.
My mate who lives just down the road (I am near Twickenham Stadium) has an auto 03 plate 3.0i. I do really like the look of his, and it is pretty much comparable in a straight line with my coupe. But he does have those problems like trying to relocate the roof motor is proving an absolute b
h for example. In terms of the roof, I used to use 303 Sealant on my old VX220 and it had quite spectacular results when done properly. He hasnt made any performance mods to it like suspension etc. and runs on 18s so be interesting to see what yours comes back with C70RBut yes, for the money, not much comes near it. For 5k you can get a straight 6 convertible that looks wise has aged really well and is one of the more reliable BMWs out there. A lot to be liked about it.
Edited by coldel on Tuesday 28th March 11:08
Shedding said:
I think we have similar car taste. I have a VX220 and have run Japanese cars such as 200SX and MR2 in the past. Two weeks back I bought a 2.7 Cayman 987.1 (manual). I hadn't ever driven one but am pleased with how it drives.
Alternative suggestion: Mini R53 John Cooper Works or GP (GP is probably too expensive).
Funny enough I have looked at the Mini JCW although I am a bit oblivious to the R numbered engines, I heard somewhere some are less reliable than others, but I am not sure. In JCW form they do look pretty tasty.Alternative suggestion: Mini R53 John Cooper Works or GP (GP is probably too expensive).
Yes the 2.7 is definitely an option in terms of getting something in better condition for the same price as a worse condition S boxster. I dont think I drive in a way that requires lots of power, nor will it go near a track or the like.
Thanks Shedding, will bear that in mind.
And good post Dave, yes thats what I expect from my Z4C and thats what I get. Hence why I didn't want to have a full on debate about it here whilst trying to decide what to get next.
I think I am currently sat something like this in this order
Boxster (never thought I would be looking at one but there you go!)
Renaultsport Megane 250 Cup
Z4R
Outsiders are something like a Mini JCW and SLK350
And good post Dave, yes thats what I expect from my Z4C and thats what I get. Hence why I didn't want to have a full on debate about it here whilst trying to decide what to get next.
I think I am currently sat something like this in this order
Boxster (never thought I would be looking at one but there you go!)
Renaultsport Megane 250 Cup
Z4R
Outsiders are something like a Mini JCW and SLK350
Yeah I dont want to get into trouble. Its on ebay for sale only at the moment. And Facebook.
I would say as its relatively low miles and one of the last ones made its put at a price in the top 25%
Happy to wait until the right person arrives, no hurry to sell, in fact enjoying it each weekend!
I would say as its relatively low miles and one of the last ones made its put at a price in the top 25%
Happy to wait until the right person arrives, no hurry to sell, in fact enjoying it each weekend!
MDUBZ said:
Went out for a very spirited hoon with a vx220 turbo and a Porsche boxster (non s) a few years ago: I have a fairly relaxed view on speeding ordinarily and even I needed to issue a bking: 50 limits and above are fair game but 30’s and 40s through villages are to be observed. The vx disappeared on the flat but I was never sure which hedge they were going to end up in at speeds above 70 when things got bumpy (but that was down to a track set up I think). The Porsche sounded fantastic but speed wise was similar to the bmw. I’d be tempted to go boxster s if I wanted a change up into a Porsche..
I’m 8 years in and other than a suspension refresh the BMW has cost me very little in maintenance or depreciation and still puts a smile on my face; it’s been a solid purchase really. I think I’d have to sell and spend at least another 10-15k to get much in the way of any tangible feeling of an upgrade and there are too many other things requiring funds at the moment..
Yes a mildly tuned VX220T is a missile, my old one had a stage 1 taking it to around 225bhp with a fast road set up - it felt fine and I took it on the NC500. Very planted and could eat up the road. king: 50 limits and above are fair game but 30’s and 40s through villages are to be observed. The vx disappeared on the flat but I was never sure which hedge they were going to end up in at speeds above 70 when things got bumpy (but that was down to a track set up I think). The Porsche sounded fantastic but speed wise was similar to the bmw. I’d be tempted to go boxster s if I wanted a change up into a Porsche..I’m 8 years in and other than a suspension refresh the BMW has cost me very little in maintenance or depreciation and still puts a smile on my face; it’s been a solid purchase really. I think I’d have to sell and spend at least another 10-15k to get much in the way of any tangible feeling of an upgrade and there are too many other things requiring funds at the moment..
I have been looking at 3.2 987 Boxsters, appears ones after April 2005 had a reinforced IMS and bore score is only an issue on the 3.4 engines. So not as scary as I originally thought. But agreed the N52 in the Z4 is an amazing piece of engineering.
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