EVs... no one wants them!
Discussion
Maracus said:
_Hoppers said:
cj2013 said:
Dave200 said:
A study of cars up to 10 years old in the USA has found that Tesla has by far the lowest maintenance and repair costs of any brand (almost 20% lower than its nearest rival). I thought they were supposed to be really unreliable?
https://electrek.co/2024/04/22/tesla-lowest-mainte...
Is it not more that they are considered to have 'poor build quality' than being 'unreliable'?https://electrek.co/2024/04/22/tesla-lowest-mainte...
Edited by _Hoppers on Tuesday 23 April 15:03
Had an interior trim rattle fixed whilst the car was at a SC last August - a clip had come lose. The build quality for a Freemont produced car was on par with anything I've had previously from Volvo, VW, etc. No seat or steering wheel wear.
Issues fixed under warranty were: O/S front indicator failed, so they replaced the unit. The gearbox gasket was seeping near the oil pump, so this was replaced along with a new pump back in September last year.
One set of MPS4s after 24000 miles.
Recalls: Upper Suspension arms - replaced at a SC when having a 2 year 'service'
Both sets of driveshafts were done to stop a grinding sound on full bore acceleration - that was never fixed.
Air con compressor was done to stop it being the loudest buzziest Tesla at the Superchargers - that was never fixed - I thought it was just a vibration somewhere but Elon said no.
Front struts were done to stop a squeaking/creaking on speed bumps etc - that was never fixed - my guess was dry top mounts but they refused to grease them because Elon/their AI service system didn't suggest it.
The headlight was because the sidelight flourescent tube had lost it's brightness - the only option is a £1200 complete unit instead of a new bulb.
Other than that, bloody perfect.
Interestingly I kind of didn’t feel that much love for my BMW i3S until it came to service time and BMW gave me a MY24 118i M Sport thing with DCT gearbox and all the tech. The 118i was a good car with good tech and all that but dynamically it was miles off the i3.
I didn’t expect to be looking forward to getting back into the i3, a 10 year old design. Perhaps it was ahead of its time.
I didn’t expect to be looking forward to getting back into the i3, a 10 year old design. Perhaps it was ahead of its time.
cj2013 said:
M4cruiser said:
Always wondered about this, why are the charging spaces wider than the plebs' spaces?
Maybe so the doors don't touch when you get out, because that would start a cross-vehicle current flow, and both cars would instantly burn up?
I honestly can't identify if these posts are stupidity or satireMaybe so the doors don't touch when you get out, because that would start a cross-vehicle current flow, and both cars would instantly burn up?
The first part was a genuine question.
The second part was a joke (obviously).
M4cruiser said:
Ok, let me make it easier for you
The first part was a genuine question.
The second part was a joke (obviously).
I would have thought the fact that you have to plug something into the side of the vehicle with a big thick dangly trip hazard might have been a bit self evidentThe first part was a genuine question.
The second part was a joke (obviously).
maz8062 said:
Interestingly I kind of didn’t feel that much love for my BMW i3S until it came to service time and BMW gave me a MY24 118i M Sport thing with DCT gearbox and all the tech. The 118i was a good car with good tech and all that but dynamically it was miles off the i3.
I didn’t expect to be looking forward to getting back into the i3, a 10 year old design. Perhaps it was ahead of its time.
I think it's widely accepted that the current 1 series is a pile of toss.I didn’t expect to be looking forward to getting back into the i3, a 10 year old design. Perhaps it was ahead of its time.
Interestingly I kind of didn’t feel that much love for my BMW i3S until it came to service time and BMW gave me a MY24 118i M Sport thing with DCT gearbox and all the tech. The 118i was a good car with good tech and all that but dynamically it was miles off the i3.
I didn’t expect to be looking forward to getting back into the i3, a 10 year old design. Perhaps it was ahead of its time.
I didn’t expect to be looking forward to getting back into the i3, a 10 year old design. Perhaps it was ahead of its time.
maz8062 said:
Interestingly I kind of didn’t feel that much love for my BMW i3S until it came to service time and BMW gave me a MY24 118i M Sport thing with DCT gearbox and all the tech. The 118i was a good car with good tech and all that but dynamically it was miles off the i3.
I didn’t expect to be looking forward to getting back into the i3, a 10 year old design. Perhaps it was ahead of its time.
I heard something similar recently…I didn’t expect to be looking forward to getting back into the i3, a 10 year old design. Perhaps it was ahead of its time.
740EVTORQUES said:
Every day I walk out of my house with the keys to a 911 and an EV6 GT in my bag.
95% of the time I get in the EV6 GT as it’s just better for most occasions.
That really brought it home to me how much of an advance EVs are.
That's more about the KIA being a better daily driver. More comfy, higher seating for visibility, more practical, less worry about dings from parking etc.95% of the time I get in the EV6 GT as it’s just better for most occasions.
That really brought it home to me how much of an advance EVs are.
I have a Mk3 TT and a BMW 120d. I pick the BMW 95% of the time. The TT is much nicer to drive but the BMW is better overall to just travel about in.
A more telling comparison would be a Taycan and a Panamera.
Edited by Frimley111R on Wednesday 24th April 09:29
nunpuncher said:
maz8062 said:
Interestingly I kind of didn’t feel that much love for my BMW i3S until it came to service time and BMW gave me a MY24 118i M Sport thing with DCT gearbox and all the tech. The 118i was a good car with good tech and all that but dynamically it was miles off the i3.
I didn’t expect to be looking forward to getting back into the i3, a 10 year old design. Perhaps it was ahead of its time.
I think it's widely accepted that the current 1 series is a pile of toss.I didn’t expect to be looking forward to getting back into the i3, a 10 year old design. Perhaps it was ahead of its time.
nickfrog said:
I think the current 1-series is an excellent car for its underpinnings and intended use.
The 6-pot in the old ones were far better though but chassis not particularly good.
I’m not sure. It felt detached; the steering, throttle, brakes. It was a weird feeling especially the light steering feel - too sharp, dead at the centre. Weird. The i3 has much better steering feel and linearity of inputs. The 6-pot in the old ones were far better though but chassis not particularly good.
The version of IDrive was good - Harmon Kardon, but it was confusing and not intuitive given that I’ve had a version for at least the last 4 years.
My point is that the EV is almost like white goods - they’re so good that you don’t notice it until you’re driving something similar with ICE. Like for like the EV is much better, or at least my I3s was compared to the ICE BMW hatch.
Genuine question, with the Ford Fiesta and Ford Focus now history, does ANYONE produce an ICE hatch with decent control weights, steering, ride, handling? I can't think of a single bread and butter hatch that delivers, as, say the old bread and butter 306s and Mk1 Focus' did back in the day....is the Golf the best of a bad bunch?
greenarrow said:
Genuine question, with the Ford Fiesta and Ford Focus now history, does ANYONE produce an ICE hatch with decent control weights, steering, ride, handling? I can't think of a single bread and butter hatch that delivers, as, say the old bread and butter 306s and Mk1 Focus' did back in the day....is the Golf the best of a bad bunch?
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