EVs... no one wants them!

EVs... no one wants them!

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EddieSteadyGo

12,056 posts

204 months

Friday 29th March
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Seasonal Hero said:
No you’re wrong. You are only able to drive it to the next post code. It’ll run out in 15 miles. You need either a diesel Discovery or a Panda.
biggrin

There are certainly different use cases.... who was it here running a diesel Astra because they needed to tow their challenger tank up Ben Nevis at -20c?

Essarell

1,262 posts

55 months

Friday 29th March
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nickfrog said:
I assume you're not using anything from China.

And that to you, AQ is essentially about virtue signalling. Absolutely nothing else.

Opinions may vary fortunately.
Use anything Chinese? Nope, definitely not, in fact lunch today is at a lovely Sardinian place in town so they can’t even sneak a foodie one….

Seasonal Hero

7,954 posts

53 months

Friday 29th March
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Out of interest what are you posting here on?

Specify the make and model of computer or phone.

nickfrog

21,275 posts

218 months

Friday 29th March
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Essarell said:
Use anything Chinese? Nope, definitely not, in fact lunch today is at a lovely Sardinian place in town so they can’t even sneak a foodie one….
Enjoy lunch. Check around your home though you might be quite surprised by how much Chinese stuff you have in it. Or as part of it actually.

Dave200

3,998 posts

221 months

Friday 29th March
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Seasonal Hero said:
Out of interest what are you posting here on?

Specify the make and model of computer or phone.
You're wasting your breath. He's not going to reply to that because he's not interested in a discussion. He questioned the validity of the average UK mileage data that I posted yesterday. When I shared the source he mysteriously stopped replying.

Essarell

1,262 posts

55 months

Friday 29th March
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Dave200 said:
Seasonal Hero said:
Out of interest what are you posting here on?

Specify the make and model of computer or phone.
You're wasting your breath. He's not going to reply to that because he's not interested in a discussion. He questioned the validity of the average UK mileage data that I posted yesterday. When I shared the source he mysteriously stopped replying.
There was no need to reply, your data checked out, I’m guessing you normally expect a round of applause?

On the “do I have anything in the home from the CCCP” then of course I do, our government have ensured that arrangement is pretty much nailed on, in fact Xi Jinping probably has a whole department following this conversation right now, they’ll be well chuffed at your continued support.

Dave200

3,998 posts

221 months

Friday 29th March
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Essarell said:
Dave200 said:
Seasonal Hero said:
Out of interest what are you posting here on?

Specify the make and model of computer or phone.
You're wasting your breath. He's not going to reply to that because he's not interested in a discussion. He questioned the validity of the average UK mileage data that I posted yesterday. When I shared the source he mysteriously stopped replying.
There was no need to reply, your data checked out, I’m guessing you normally expect a round of applause?

On the “do I have anything in the home from the CCCP” then of course I do, our government have ensured that arrangement is pretty much nailed on, in fact Xi Jinping probably has a whole department following this conversation right now, they’ll be well chuffed at your continued support.
So it's ok for you to support the Chinese government but it's not ok for someone to buy an EV with bits made in China?

Essarell

1,262 posts

55 months

Friday 29th March
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Dave200 said:
Essarell said:
Dave200 said:
Seasonal Hero said:
Out of interest what are you posting here on?

Specify the make and model of computer or phone.
You're wasting your breath. He's not going to reply to that because he's not interested in a discussion. He questioned the validity of the average UK mileage data that I posted yesterday. When I shared the source he mysteriously stopped replying.
There was no need to reply, your data checked out, I’m guessing you normally expect a round of applause?

On the “do I have anything in the home from the CCCP” then of course I do, our government have ensured that arrangement is pretty much nailed on, in fact Xi Jinping probably has a whole department following this conversation right now, they’ll be well chuffed at your continued support.
So it's ok for you to support the Chinese government but it's not ok for someone to buy an EV with bits made in China?
The point is it’s being “mandated” if you can’t see the dangers in a rushed net zero mandate then more fool you.

TheBinarySheep

1,135 posts

52 months

Friday 29th March
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Dave200 said:
The problem is that it's possible to have a car charger installed that doesn't talk to the grid as I have. In that scenario it's impossible for the energy companies to tell what I'm using that overnight cheap energy rate for.
You have similar issues with those who have solar.

We'll end up with a per-mile tax. Gets around that issue.

Dave200

3,998 posts

221 months

Friday 29th March
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Essarell said:
Dave200 said:
Essarell said:
Dave200 said:
Seasonal Hero said:
Out of interest what are you posting here on?

Specify the make and model of computer or phone.
You're wasting your breath. He's not going to reply to that because he's not interested in a discussion. He questioned the validity of the average UK mileage data that I posted yesterday. When I shared the source he mysteriously stopped replying.
There was no need to reply, your data checked out, I’m guessing you normally expect a round of applause?

On the “do I have anything in the home from the CCCP” then of course I do, our government have ensured that arrangement is pretty much nailed on, in fact Xi Jinping probably has a whole department following this conversation right now, they’ll be well chuffed at your continued support.
So it's ok for you to support the Chinese government but it's not ok for someone to buy an EV with bits made in China?
The point is it’s being “mandated” if you can’t see the dangers in a rushed net zero mandate then more fool you.
But the government aren't mandating that all non-evs are crushed in January 2035. And I think you'll still be able to buy hybrids if new cars are your bag. It's not the end of the world.

Essarell

1,262 posts

55 months

Friday 29th March
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Dave200 said:
Essarell said:
Dave200 said:
Essarell said:
Dave200 said:
Seasonal Hero said:
Out of interest what are you posting here on?

Specify the make and model of computer or phone.
You're wasting your breath. He's not going to reply to that because he's not interested in a discussion. He questioned the validity of the average UK mileage data that I posted yesterday. When I shared the source he mysteriously stopped replying.
There was no need to reply, your data checked out, I’m guessing you normally expect a round of applause?

On the “do I have anything in the home from the CCCP” then of course I do, our government have ensured that arrangement is pretty much nailed on, in fact Xi Jinping probably has a whole department following this conversation right now, they’ll be well chuffed at your continued support.
So it's ok for you to support the Chinese government but it's not ok for someone to buy an EV with bits made in China?
The point is it’s being “mandated” if you can’t see the dangers in a rushed net zero mandate then more fool you.
But the government aren't mandating that all non-evs are crushed in January 2035. And I think you'll still be able to buy hybrids if new cars are your bag. It's not the end of the world.
clap

Seasonal Hero

7,954 posts

53 months

Friday 29th March
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Essarell said:
On the “do I have anything in the home from the CCCP” then of course I do
laughjester





Edited by Seasonal Hero on Friday 29th March 10:46

Essarell

1,262 posts

55 months

Friday 29th March
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Seasonal Hero said:
Essarell said:
On the “do I have anything in the home from the CCCP” then of course I do
laughjester
laugh I know, I keep mixing up my communist dictatorships, must do better for the greater good etc etc

loudlashadjuster

5,157 posts

185 months

Friday 29th March
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This thread is great value wobble

Keep it up, chaps

Oilchange

8,484 posts

261 months

Friday 29th March
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Perspective, if all the taxes were equivalent, the petrol driven cars would look MUCH more attractive. Frikkin governments!

GT9

6,775 posts

173 months

Friday 29th March
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Essarell said:
rushed net zero mandate.
Define 'rushed'.
I'm reading this as 'please wait until I've done my consuming and just let the next generation deal with it'.

740EVTORQUES

445 posts

2 months

Friday 29th March
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Actually that’s not right.

If petrol and especially diesel cars were taxed in relation to the environmental and health harms these cause then they would be taxed more heavily even than now.

Let alone commercial airliners. Air travel would be priced out of all but the wealthiest tourists.

There’s a good case for keeping taxes on EVs lower as they cause less damage to the environment both local and global.

ChocolateFrog

25,611 posts

174 months

Friday 29th March
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Oilchange said:
Perspective, if all the taxes were equivalent, the petrol driven cars would look MUCH more attractive. Frikkin governments!
Well du'h.

D4rez

1,411 posts

57 months

Friday 29th March
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Essarell said:
Dave200 said:
Essarell said:
Dave200 said:
Essarell said:
Dave200 said:
Seasonal Hero said:
Out of interest what are you posting here on?

Specify the make and model of computer or phone.
You're wasting your breath. He's not going to reply to that because he's not interested in a discussion. He questioned the validity of the average UK mileage data that I posted yesterday. When I shared the source he mysteriously stopped replying.
There was no need to reply, your data checked out, I’m guessing you normally expect a round of applause?

On the “do I have anything in the home from the CCCP” then of course I do, our government have ensured that arrangement is pretty much nailed on, in fact Xi Jinping probably has a whole department following this conversation right now, they’ll be well chuffed at your continued support.
So it's ok for you to support the Chinese government but it's not ok for someone to buy an EV with bits made in China?
The point is it’s being “mandated” if you can’t see the dangers in a rushed net zero mandate then more fool you.
But the government aren't mandating that all non-evs are crushed in January 2035. And I think you'll still be able to buy hybrids if new cars are your bag. It's not the end of the world.
clap
Wouldn’t worry about it.. absolutely diddly squat you can do about it other than enjoy your BEV like a good citizen or buy a used car.

EddieSteadyGo

12,056 posts

204 months

Friday 29th March
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740EVTORQUES said:
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If petrol and especially diesel cars were taxed in relation to the environmental and health harms these cause then they would be taxed more heavily even than now.
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My view is that we will look back at the time when we allowed petrol and diesel cars to belch out poisonous fumes like the time before the smoking ban in pubs.

I remember going to the pub before the ban, and even though I didn't smoke, my clothes the following day would reek and be almost stiff with the odour of stale smoke. That used to be normal. Only the most selfish smoker would want to go back to that time.

Now if I take my kids to school in the morning, there is often a long queue of traffic, mostly petrol and diesels, all pushing out various oxides and particulates. And we all have to breathe it in, including children, whether we like it or not.

I suspect in the future, people won't believe how our current society cared so little about the quality of air that we breathe.