Golf R stolen - what replacement?

[Cudd Wudd]

jm8403 said:

Moving doesn't solve the issue, they like stealing from nice areas and rarely their areas.

Minimise the risk by moving to their area

[jm8403]

Cudd Wudd said:

jm8403 said:

Moving doesn't solve the issue, they like stealing from nice areas and rarely their areas.

Minimise the risk by moving to their area

Indeed, but then you don't want to go for a walk in the evening.

[toffee]

ZX10R NIN said:

I'd say take a good look at the last of the line 3.0 Jaguar XE S 380's as they're a very good steer ride well & are a nice place to be:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202302284...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202303175...

Last of the line Polestar V60:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202303215...

Maserati Ghibli S now these are a true under ( the facelift 425 mobels are rare) the radar car & feel special too:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202303225...

Regular 350:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202302254...

Not the best looking but the Kia Stinger is a very good steer & the V6TT is a peach:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202302154...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202208108...

Now if you want a proper sleeper then this is the one, no onw will suspect the performance on tap with one of these:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202303135...

All the above are interesting alternatives, or the i30N DCT fastback is a very good alternative.

Thank you for such a thoughtful list, a few I hadn't thought of.

[georgeyboy12345]

SWoll said:

popeyewhite said:

toffee said:

ALawson said:

Will they be back for the replacement? 340i?

That does worry me, so would like something that is a bit of a sleeper. But I am not going to buy a boring car - will up the defences first!

Why on Earth would a thief/thieves call back at a house they'd already robbed? Thieves are thick, in general, but not that thick. OP put a fake alarm box and camera outside the front and get on with your life.

Happens regularly.

How about a Model 3 Performance OP? No keys, PIN number to start, sentry mode to record any theft attempt from multiple angles and send alerts to your phone and not popular with car thieves as they never know how much charge it's got.

Also super practical and ridiculously quick.

Honestly this is the best suggestion on the thread and what I was going to suggest too.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202303225...


If you want something genuinely fun to drive that's generally under the radar to scumbags, then try one of these three

Peugeot 308 GTi
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202303205...


Renault Megane RS
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202303165...


Alfa Romeo Giulietta TBi
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202301313...

[popeyewhite]

georgeyboy12345 said:

Honestly this is the best suggestion on the thread and what I was going to suggest too.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202303225...

Not much quicker than a stage 2 r. Impressive torque. What the mileage on a full charge?

[Tonberry]

Car theft is rife and they'll take anything they can get their hands on.

That includes 20 year old Polos and Fiestas. Some cars are shipped out of the country in containers but most are stripped for parts that can be resold.

It's worse in cities but is spreading to more rural areas.

https://www.facebook.com/stolencarsmidlands

[ninjag]

Get some big "Beware of the dogs" signs and plonk them on your front and back door. I would think twice before breaking into a house where there may be a chance of some big devil dog waiting for me.

[Silenoz]

To replace the Golf R, I'd be looking at one of these:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2023021141...

Same power and 4wd as the Golf, but much less theft attractive as they stand out

[S100HP]

V60 polestar for me. Under the radar for sure.

[Ankh87]

Might be worth looking at SEAT LEON Cupra or Cupra R or whatever they are called these days. 300bhp and look better than a Golf.

Or

Civic FK2 Type R. Not as in your face as a FK8. I know it's a bit older but it's got one of the largest boots in class.

OR

Buy an older car like a 2015 Octavia VRS, spend the rest travelling the world. Could do a world round trip with the money spare.

[toffee]

Silenoz said:

To replace the Golf R, I'd be looking at one of these:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2023021141...

Same power and 4wd as the Golf, but much less theft attractive as they stand out

Thank you,I have often considered one of these, maybe the marmite looks would make it less attractive!

[popeyewhite]

Tonberry said:

Car theft is rife and they'll take anything they can get their hands on.

That includes 20 year old Polos and Fiestas. Some cars are shipped out of the country in containers but most are stripped for parts that can be resold.

It's worse in cities but is spreading to more rural areas.

https://www.facebook.com/stolencarsmidlands

Lots of Fords and BMW, lots of SUVs. One VW, a Polo. i only looked for about 10 minutes though.

[Tonberry]

The first five cars include a 2011 Hyundai, 2015 Focus and 2014 Juke.

The majority of thefts reported on that page or not high performance, expensive or desirable cars. A contrast to what is often said on this forum.

[popeyewhite]

Tonberry said:

The first five cars include a 2011 Hyundai, 2015 Focus and 2014 Juke.

The majority of thefts reported on that page or not high performance, expensive or desirable cars. A contrast to what is often said on this forum.

Who steals a Juke FGS? Perhaps an opportunist theft?

[stevekoz]

I live in central B'ham and as alot of petrolheads know, its an area rife with thefts.

I know people who live in affluent areas and have had multiple cars stolen from the drive by the same thieves. They know its the same thieves as they were caught on CCTV several times.

The reason its so rife, and so many cars are stolen again and again and again is simply there is very little deterrent. The police do not care. They act as an administration company for Insurance claims. You get a claim reference, no one comes out to your house to ask any questions or take any forensics. They ask for CCTV images etc, but generally its to pass on to the claim dept's for any insurance claim that is added. In addition, they charge the insurance companies for that information (accidents and thefts). So if you wonder why your claim is taken so long - the police have a I think up to a 3 month turnaround to provide the information to the insurers??

Meanwhile, there are organised crime squads looking at rings of people who orchestrate this, but as soon as one ring is taken down another pops up in its place and they literally contract out to "hired" help to steal cars or car parts to order and then ship them wholesale, abroad to the likes of East Asia and Europe. Especially with models like VW, Ford where parts are for some reason more premium.

The fact that you don't get police really investigating any of the direct thefts or taking so long to do so, means a gang can operate in an area for a while without fear of being caught and so come back again and again. Until they decide to move on.

I apologise to any police officer on this thread but its a JOKE. They do nothing to help and usually get frustratingly obtrusive to you asking or getting any help. I have been on the end of this more than once both as a victim of crime (car jacking). Victim of theft (mugging for keys). And as an Insurance company claims handler. And you may feel differently but each and every time its the same dead ends and same problems that mean its just almost worthless going to the police for anything other than a crime number.

So, whilst don't have much to offer this time in choices of car on this thread bar whats already been issued. To say you should sell your house and move due to car crime is a ridiculous notion - because these gangs change areas all the time, if you've not been hit, you will be. Its just a matter of when not IF. Yes you can move to a rural area where its much less likely to happen - but its not practical is it, to pay £thousands to move house just to have a "nice" car on your drive. Plus, lets all be honest, these are cars ranging from Ford Fiestas to Range Rovers. Fewer luxury brands are impacted. Golf R or not, i don't think its a "high value brand" in the scheme of cars, but its not just the R's, its every model. So buy the one you want. All you can do is bolster the security you do have. Ghost immobiliser, OBD Port blanks, steering locks, driveway bollards, wheel clamps. But its only a precaution.

I keep the keys in plain sight near the door so if anyone does come to get them, there's no violent ransacking of the house. In and out, you'd likely not wake up. Its a sad truth and yes you will feel violated but theres no real way to combat it.

[JonDerz]

stevekoz said:

The police do not care.

but as soon as one ring is taken down

So which is it? As that’s quite a contradiction. They can’t not care whilst going to all the investigative and resource intense of a job as bringing down an entire ring.

I can’t speak for West Mids but we’ve had officers recently come into work actively seeking any glimpses on the cameras of someone they were tracking in relation to a fiesta theft a few nights before.
They’d been going along all the shop fronts and local residents with cameras they could see leading up to the Tesco Express nearby. So I can vouch for Derbyshire doing what they can in some cases at least.

[Inspectorclueso]

bennno said:

If our cars were stoken off the drive then the replacement would be a tesla given anti theft tech and low crime risk, or a really boring hyundai.

I was wondering about this, you never hear of Tesla's being stolen. Is it because they are too 'connected' i.e. it would be too much hard work to change i's identity and make it work... I did wonder if there will be a market for the batteries at some stage, but I guess it takes some expertise to extract and reuse ?

[Inspectorclueso]

stevekoz said:

I live in central B'ham and as alot of petrolheads know, its an area rife with thefts.

I know people who live in affluent areas and have had multiple cars stolen from the drive by the same thieves. They know its the same thieves as they were caught on CCTV several times.

The reason its so rife, and so many cars are stolen again and again and again is simply there is very little deterrent. The police do not care. They act as an administration company for Insurance claims. You get a claim reference, no one comes out to your house to ask any questions or take any forensics. They ask for CCTV images etc, but generally its to pass on to the claim dept's for any insurance claim that is added. In addition, they charge the insurance companies for that information (accidents and thefts). So if you wonder why your claim is taken so long - the police have a I think up to a 3 month turnaround to provide the information to the insurers??

Meanwhile, there are organised crime squads looking at rings of people who orchestrate this, but as soon as one ring is taken down another pops up in its place and they literally contract out to "hired" help to steal cars or car parts to order and then ship them wholesale, abroad to the likes of East Asia and Europe. Especially with models like VW, Ford where parts are for some reason more premium.

The fact that you don't get police really investigating any of the direct thefts or taking so long to do so, means a gang can operate in an area for a while without fear of being caught and so come back again and again. Until they decide to move on.

I apologise to any police officer on this thread but its a JOKE. They do nothing to help and usually get frustratingly obtrusive to you asking or getting any help. I have been on the end of this more than once both as a victim of crime (car jacking). Victim of theft (mugging for keys). And as an Insurance company claims handler. And you may feel differently but each and every time its the same dead ends and same problems that mean its just almost worthless going to the police for anything other than a crime number.

So, whilst don't have much to offer this time in choices of car on this thread bar whats already been issued. To say you should sell your house and move due to car crime is a ridiculous notion - because these gangs change areas all the time, if you've not been hit, you will be. Its just a matter of when not IF. Yes you can move to a rural area where its much less likely to happen - but its not practical is it, to pay £thousands to move house just to have a "nice" car on your drive. Plus, lets all be honest, these are cars ranging from Ford Fiestas to Range Rovers. Fewer luxury brands are impacted. Golf R or not, i don't think its a "high value brand" in the scheme of cars, but its not just the R's, its every model. So buy the one you want. All you can do is bolster the security you do have. Ghost immobiliser, OBD Port blanks, steering locks, driveway bollards, wheel clamps. But its only a precaution.

I keep the keys in plain sight near the door so if anyone does come to get them, there's no violent ransacking of the house. In and out, you'd likely not wake up. Its a sad truth and yes you will feel violated but theres no real way to combat it.

Here's my experience - Land Rover taken from Hospital in central Brum (we live rural, miles away), reported to police same day. Chased police for 4 days to get a crime ref, never heard from them again. We were even denied viewing of the CCTV for 'data protection' reasons....It is a joke, actually relatively easy to solve IF someone put their mind to it, in fact I'd hazard a guess most of the main operators are known to authorities. In our case, after I escalated the insurance case, paid out in 10 days, but that's not the point, it's the hassle and unfair, distributed cost of insurance payouts.

[mattybrown]

popeyewhite said:

Not much quicker than a stage 2 r. Impressive torque. What the mileage on a full charge?

On 80% charge in cold weather around town driving and preheating/defrosting about 220 miles. Summer probably another 40 to 50 miles.

[ashleyman]

Inspectorclueso said:

Here's my experience - Land Rover taken from Hospital in central Brum (we live rural, miles away), reported to police same day. Chased police for 4 days to get a crime ref, never heard from them again. We were even denied viewing of the CCTV for 'data protection' reasons....It is a joke, actually relatively easy to solve IF someone put their mind to it, in fact I'd hazard a guess most of the main operators are known to authorities. In our case, after I escalated the insurance case, paid out in 10 days, but that's not the point, it's the hassle and unfair, distributed cost of insurance payouts.

Likewise. When my motorbike was stolen from my back garden (MET Police) I found out who took, where it was, the reg of the van used to steal it and where that van was parked. I never had anyone visit me in person, crime ref number and that was it. A week later when the thieves heard I was potentially coming for my bike back it was burnt out and sent to the insurers. I was paid out for it.

I complained to the MET and handed over all information I had to them. I had footage of the bike being taken so not just like I made up all the info, I knew the route the van would have taken and what ANPR cameras it would have hit. They confirmed my route the van took, confirmed the reg was cloned and confirmed they knew of the person/people who I suspected had it and then did nothing about it. Had they done something in the time it took the thieves to burn the bike out they'd have recovered my bike and potentially made arrests but they didn't.

Insurers were also just as bad and still have not informed DVLA that it had been stolen/recovered - I can't because I don't have the V5 anymore. I had to write them a letter to try and convince them I no longer had it.

I now don't have a bike. And my car now has a ghost on it.