When 99 BHP is too much

When 99 BHP is too much

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buccal

Original Poster:

530 posts

193 months

Friday 21st April 2023
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Can anyone with experience recommend a city run about that is even more fun than a Panda 100HP?

The 100hp is currently used to zip about South London as a daily while keeping within the speed limits. Never goes out of town.

I have other cars to go quick in (AMG etc) so this was bought to replace a 182 which was just too quick if I opened it up (in town) and the panda is much closer to what I was looking for. Close ratio box etc allows me to pedal it along without anyone really noticing.

Panda's ride is obvious crap so the rest of the family hate it!

However, I wonder if there is anything even better? Ideally even slower so I can rev it out more while staying sensible.

Was thinking about an original Mini but ULEZ kills that idea and any other modern classic. I already have an MX5 so need 4 seats.

Considering one of the 60hp VW Up's but no idea if the steering/gear-change etc will be city car life-less.

Any other suggestions?

I can appreciate it a pretty weird criteria!

E63eeeeee...

3,930 posts

50 months

Friday 21st April 2023
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Aygo

TGCOTF-dewey

5,239 posts

56 months

Friday 21st April 2023
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Ascan aside... Bilstein shocks hugely improve the ride on those. Nearly bought one, but my wife hated the ride.

I really liked it so did some digging.

clockworks

5,387 posts

146 months

Friday 21st April 2023
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I had a 60bhp Skoda Citigo, which is the same as the VW Up! Actually a very "grown up" car to drive, far nicer than the Panda Multijet that I had previously. A little bit underpowered for A road hills, but able to keep up with normal traffic.

I've now got a Kia Picanto. Very close to the Citigo for refinement and quality, but much better equipped for the money. Mine is actually the 1 litre turbo version, with 99bhp, so it goes quite well too.

ScoobyChris

1,705 posts

203 months

Friday 21st April 2023
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Have had a 100hp in the past and our current city car is a Peugeot 107 with 60-something bhp. On the plus side, it doesn't seem to mind being hustled along at a reasonable pace, steering has a bit of weight and it's agile, but sporty it definitely is not and I think it would be quite a step down from the Panda in terms of driving experience.

Struggling to think of anything that comes close with less bhp biggrin

Chris

MisanoPayments

326 posts

43 months

Friday 21st April 2023
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Ups are fun!

Would Lupos be too old for you? There's a 50bhp one litre and a 1.4 Sport but they had 100bhp.... or the Polo of the same era?

SlowV6

624 posts

140 months

Friday 21st April 2023
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clockworks said:
I had a 60bhp Skoda Citigo, which is the same as the VW Up! Actually a very "grown up" car to drive, far nicer than the Panda Multijet that I had previously. A little bit underpowered for A road hills, but able to keep up with normal traffic.

I've now got a Kia Picanto. Very close to the Citigo for refinement and quality, but much better equipped for the money. Mine is actually the 1 litre turbo version, with 99bhp, so it goes quite well too.
+1 to the Kia 1.0 T-GDi GT Line S

scot_aln

420 posts

200 months

Friday 21st April 2023
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Aren't there some VW UPs at 90BHP? I think it was comically named something like Up High or something.

scot_aln

420 posts

200 months

Friday 21st April 2023
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Glosphil

4,371 posts

235 months

Friday 21st April 2023
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Polo, Fabia or Ibiza with lowest power engine (60hp?).

Zippee

13,477 posts

235 months

Friday 21st April 2023
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Best super mini I've ever driven is a twingo cup - like a roller skate 😀

braddo

10,581 posts

189 months

Friday 21st April 2023
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I would look at the Mazda 2 (2007-14ish generation) - reviews always seemed to be positive and being Japanese they probably have shorter gearing than the European makes.


essayer

9,094 posts

195 months

Friday 21st April 2023
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Renault Zoe biggrin

Ankh87

696 posts

103 months

Friday 21st April 2023
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Yaris T Sport or Yaris SR.
Suzuki Ignis Sport or Swift Sport
Micra SR
VW UP
Skoda City Go
SEAT Mii
Mazda 2 Sport


WelshPetrolhead

670 posts

136 months

Friday 21st April 2023
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SlowV6 said:
+1 to the Kia 1.0 T-GDi GT Line S
See also Hyundai i10 N-Line. Had one as a courtesy car for two months and it was a great nippy little thing to drive.

Currently have a Alfa Mito Twinair with 105hp. Nice little car and the engine has a lot of character. Ride is maybe not the best though.

ChocolateFrog

25,611 posts

174 months

Friday 21st April 2023
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E63eeeeee... said:
Aygo
Good call, loved our Aygo.

Honda Insight, the proper one, is also great. The auto is actually quicker than the manual, closer ratios.

Edited by ChocolateFrog on Friday 21st April 14:35

Beethree

811 posts

90 months

Friday 21st April 2023
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Fiesta Zetec S, Mk6 or 7.
100HP, big enough to get people in the back, still looks decent. And IIRC have a closer ratio box than the standard cars.

ChrisH72

2,217 posts

53 months

Friday 21st April 2023
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When I first met my wife she owned a…

(Don’t laugh)

Hyundai i10 active. 2nd generation I think maybe. It was 2011 so the tall boxy one.

I’m not kidding it was a hoot to drive. Just 85bhp from the sweet and revvy 1.2 and all the controls were well weighted and had good feel. I used to borrow it and thrash it (don’t tell her) for fun. Best thing was it had a dash mounted gear lever just like an ep3 type r.

Okay so it’s no looker but that means you can park it anywhere and not care about it. Smallest car I’ve ever driven so perfect for punting around the urban environment.

If you have over 10k to spend I’d say that picanto 1.0 is a good shout. It has the same 99bhp but with a turbo the power would be more accessible for town and city driving. They look fun.

buccal

Original Poster:

530 posts

193 months

Friday 21st April 2023
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Thanks all, some great replies.

Plenty of cars I hadn't considered/wasn't aware of !

I missed out on a members Micra SR prior to buying the panda so have been looking at these and twingo's.

A neighbour has a Lupo GTi which I love but I think they are getting increasingly difficult to find at sensible money.

The korean options sound like they would be well worth looking at.

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Edited by buccal on Friday 21st April 16:24

braddo

10,581 posts

189 months

Friday 21st April 2023
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TGCOTF-dewey said:
Ascan aside... Bilstein shocks hugely improve the ride on those. Nearly bought one, but my wife hated the ride.

I really liked it so did some digging.
I wonder if one could even try putting standard Panda springs/dampers onto a 100HP given the OP's urban use?