What would you do - problem 'new' car?

What would you do - problem 'new' car?

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LightningBlue

532 posts

42 months

Saturday 6th May 2023
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Have a look at “Blackbelt Barrister” on YouTube - he covered rejections in one of his latest videos which you’ll find very useful

Tom4398cc

261 posts

35 months

Saturday 6th May 2023
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My wife has a 2018 Touareg (last of the mk 2s) that tows an IWT horse trailer at least once a week, some of the time with two horses. With Pirelli all season tyres on, it does a good job and hasn’t struggled with the heavy trailer on wet grass. It fits the bill and has been acceptably reliable………..

……but even my wife admits that is nothing like as comfortable or as nice to travel in as my 2004 L322 Range Rover. Which needs unleaded and mechanical attention in equal measure. But we have all come to love it.

So I think it comes down to two things:

1. If you really like driving the Discovery, and other 4x4s don’t measure up, that’s an argument to find a good LR mechanic and stick with the Discovery. You might find that you enjoy it so much that you can forgive it’s addiction to the mechanics 4 post lift

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2. Where you stand in reliability for a vehicle towing horses. Everyone in the horse world knows of some of the horrific accidents that have happened with broken down boxes and lorries being hit at the side of the road. That was the clincher for my wife. Whilst my L322 had never let us down whilst towing the horses, she didn’t want to push her luck with a nearly 20 year old vehicle. Hence she got the Touareg.

You’ll know how bothered you are about having the Land Rover vs how much reliability towing the horses is your priority.

Finally, a left field choice. Full size 4x4 that can do it all with a family and horses - Mercedes GLS 3 litre diesel

Whatever you decide, very best of luck going forwards. You come across as a very reasonable guy, so hopefully the dealer will respect that and arrive at a solution that you are happy with.


jason61c

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5,978 posts

175 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2023
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So, to round the thread off........

I let them fix the issue(2 new NOX sensors).

48 hours later, critical oil warning on the dash. showing zero oil. I put in 3.5ltrs, no level.

They collected it yesterday, I got a refund today........... for the full purchase price. Just waiting for a refund on the warranty.

I think it might be an oil level sensor issue, however the car was dogst.

So upto £35k, ideally under £30, perfect world £25k.

tow a horse trailer with 2 small horse things. not have issues every 48 hours, fit a growing family of 5.

I'm tired of car hunting now.

dmsims

6,557 posts

268 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2023
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Volvo V60 T8

jason61c

Original Poster:

5,978 posts

175 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2023
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dmsims said:
Volvo V60 T8
They're not big enough.

dmsims

6,557 posts

268 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2023
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jason61c said:
dmsims said:
Volvo V60 T8
They're not big enough.
Maybe some help as to what you consider big enough is then smile

Summit_Detailing

1,910 posts

194 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2023
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XC90
F-pace
Santa Fe
Cayenne
Levante
Landcruiser
Kodiaq

My partner was looking to swap out of her Navara with similar budget (£25k) and towing requirements and the above are what were on her initial list, which was whittled down to Cayenne, XC90 and Santa Fe.

Cockaigne

2,797 posts

20 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2023
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The amount of stories about LR I wouldn't buy one second hand.

I'm sure Volvo XC60 has 3.5 towing capacity or something.

Tom4398cc

261 posts

35 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2023
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If not a VW Touareg, maybe have a look at a Jeep Grabd Cherokee. Or Mercedes ML/GLE?

Edible Roadkill

1,689 posts

178 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2023
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Xc90

Bobupndown

1,864 posts

44 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2023
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jason61c said:
So, to round the thread off........

I let them fix the issue(2 new NOX sensors).

48 hours later, critical oil warning on the dash. showing zero oil. I put in 3.5ltrs, no level.

They collected it yesterday, I got a refund today........... for the full purchase price. Just waiting for a refund on the warranty.

I think it might be an oil level sensor issue, however the car was dogst.

So upto £35k, ideally under £30, perfect world £25k.

tow a horse trailer with 2 small horse things. not have issues every 48 hours, fit a growing family of 5.

I'm tired of car hunting now.
What a saga. You are well rid of that one.

biggbn

23,627 posts

221 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2023
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Lexus rx450? Zero issues with reliability.

sunbeam alpine

6,958 posts

189 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2023
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Toyota Hilux or Landcruiser - and I say that as a big (ex) Land Rover fan.

emperorburger

1,484 posts

67 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2023
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Nearly new Rexton and lots of remaining warranty

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202304116...

jason61c

Original Poster:

5,978 posts

175 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2023
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Bobupndown said:
What a saga. You are well rid of that one.
Yep. Glad to see it gone.

Snow and Rocks

1,951 posts

28 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2023
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Land Cruiser - 10 year/100k warranty too if you really want peace of mind!

shtu

3,482 posts

147 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2023
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What a saga, good to see they eventually coughed up *exactly what you were entitled to*.

If anyone wants to see just how awful these can be, have a look at the "LR Time" youtube channel. Engine rebuilds, body-off repairs, you name it - so much so this unassuming German couple have a full workshop and 2-post lift at home...

Edited by shtu on Tuesday 23 May 21:48

loskie

5,287 posts

121 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2023
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SEAT Tarraco

jason61c

Original Poster:

5,978 posts

175 months

Wednesday 24th May 2023
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If this wasn't black or had a tow bar...

https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsch...

what are the 4.2's like? I see porsche has extended the transfer case warranty?


RayDonovan

4,447 posts

216 months

Wednesday 24th May 2023
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Good work on the refund.

A colleague has a 2015 RR that's been sat in the dealership for 4 weeks that they can't fix. Full extended LR warranty and they can't give them a service loan car...