Can't get over car prices, need help up to £12k

[d_a_n1979]

BMW E91 325D or 330D or an E61 530D

Ignore the naysayers and BS about the chains all blowing up; they don't

Those that are unloved/not looked after and maintained properly do; but those well looked after, maintained properly and with good il changes are fine...

There are lots out there with 150k plus miles and zero issues!

If you have doubts; get the chain and guides replaced, budget c£1k to £1.5k, which you should have easily with your overall budget

Something like this as an example:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202305097...

Or an E61 5 series:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202305187...

[Hugo Stiglitz]

McLarenLad said:

Have you considered a BMW 1 series?

Cheap tax. Bulletproof engines.

Rear space is a bit reduced, but boot space is adequate enough IMO.

Nice cars, a reverse tardis inside, boot floor compromised.

How about a leased Skoda Yeti thing. Can't remember the name?

[Bendo]

junglie said:

E class Mercedes?

Is the answer. A 2015/6 s212 is doable at that price. OK they look slightly dated inside compared to the 213 but still miles ahead of the Mondeo, Octavia Mazda 6 etc. A late enough one can have official Android Auto / Carplay enabled too.

[ninjag]

BenS94 said:

ninjag said:

2012 Honda CRV 4th Gen 2.0i 49k miles. It's not a diesel but the petrol will be bullet proof and ULEZ compliant. Closer to your max budget, but with £2k to spare I doubt you'll have to spend any thing on it.

Great family cars, boot is big and rear seats slide forwards and back. With rear seats down it literally turns into a van! Wide opening doors as well.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202305157...


If really wanting a diesel, which does suit the Honda auto better, then there's this one. Personally, I would stick with petrol though.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202305117...

See Chops Garage on YouTube.... and avoid those.

Why?

[Mr Whippy]

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-search?advertisin...

These are solid enough cars.

Leaves plenty for any work that needs doing, but most common niggles can be DIY’d.

My brother has one mothballed in a shed, says it’s too good to sell for the money they fetch.


Ah just realised auto only… sane car just get an auto non-ST.

[Mr Whippy]

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202303175...

Looks like auto 2.2 only came one newer shape.

Prices are indeed daft.

I can’t see these older higher mile cars staying so high priced.
To a degree, it makes no sense as maintenance costs will just balance out vs finance for a higher cost newer car in the first place which will generally be nicer and lower tax etc.


These seem far better value given what you get, what they were new, etc

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-search?advertisin...

[BenS94]

ninjag said:

BenS94 said:

ninjag said:

2012 Honda CRV 4th Gen 2.0i 49k miles. It's not a diesel but the petrol will be bullet proof and ULEZ compliant. Closer to your max budget, but with £2k to spare I doubt you'll have to spend any thing on it.

Great family cars, boot is big and rear seats slide forwards and back. With rear seats down it literally turns into a van! Wide opening doors as well.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202305157...


If really wanting a diesel, which does suit the Honda auto better, then there's this one. Personally, I would stick with petrol though.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202305117...

See Chops Garage on YouTube.... and avoid those.

Why?

Wobbling/shaking under acceleration, transmission flush and differential oil changes improve things, but don't totally fix things.

[ZX10R NIN]

Taz1111 said:

Looking at the 2.0 CDTI in Vauxhall's, can't see much about DPF problems but I think I'm right to consider any future problems.

How often do they need to be out on a run to keep the DPF ok?

OP what's your usage as that will deremine if a diesel suits your needs.

[RTaylor2208]

How about a BMW 320D GT? Loads of space both in the boot and rear seat, nice place to sit and this one has decent miles although admitedly its almost 10 years old so does feel expensive (but so is everything else)

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202304116...

[anonymous-user]

RTaylor2208 said:

How about a BMW 320D GT? Loads of space both in the boot and rear seat, nice place to sit and this one has decent miles although admitedly its almost 10 years old so does feel expensive (but so is everything else)

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202304116...

With the N47 engine that suffers from stretched timing chains?

[BenS94]

Joey Deacon said:

RTaylor2208 said:

How about a BMW 320D GT? Loads of space both in the boot and rear seat, nice place to sit and this one has decent miles although admitedly its almost 10 years old so does feel expensive (but so is everything else)

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202304116...

With the N47 engine that suffers from stretched timing chains?

Correct. 190PS would be the B47. Much better unit, the one to look for.

[Taz1111]

Thanks everyone but we decided on an Astra. Low miles, 2 owners at roughly same ownership intervals. 2.0 Auto. Have had so much trouble with garages recently and been kind of impressed by the place we've ended up getting a car.

I'd go for anything myself, probably something private and set aside money, but I'm ok fixing things, and most aren't.

I've owned maybe 10 cars roughly. Only ever had 1 blow up properly (cambelt tensioner KV6), and the shifter cables snapped on an MGF.

So really the real risk is just the modern rubbish and the autobox. Think I'm happy taking that risk.

[ninjag]

BenS94 said:

ninjag said:

BenS94 said:

ninjag said:

2012 Honda CRV 4th Gen 2.0i 49k miles. It's not a diesel but the petrol will be bullet proof and ULEZ compliant. Closer to your max budget, but with £2k to spare I doubt you'll have to spend any thing on it.

Great family cars, boot is big and rear seats slide forwards and back. With rear seats down it literally turns into a van! Wide opening doors as well.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202305157...


If really wanting a diesel, which does suit the Honda auto better, then there's this one. Personally, I would stick with petrol though.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202305117...

See Chops Garage on YouTube.... and avoid those.

Why?

Wobbling/shaking under acceleration, transmission flush and differential oil changes improve things, but don't totally fix things.

I think that's the manual transmission where there have been a few reports.

So what car do you suggest?

Edited by ninjag on Friday 26th May 23:23

[BenS94]

ninjag said:

BenS94 said:

ninjag said:

BenS94 said:

ninjag said:

2012 Honda CRV 4th Gen 2.0i 49k miles. It's not a diesel but the petrol will be bullet proof and ULEZ compliant. Closer to your max budget, but with £2k to spare I doubt you'll have to spend any thing on it.

Great family cars, boot is big and rear seats slide forwards and back. With rear seats down it literally turns into a van! Wide opening doors as well.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202305157...


If really wanting a diesel, which does suit the Honda auto better, then there's this one. Personally, I would stick with petrol though.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202305117...

See Chops Garage on YouTube.... and avoid those.

Why?

Wobbling/shaking under acceleration, transmission flush and differential oil changes improve things, but don't totally fix things.

I think that's the manual transmission where there have been a few reports.

So what car do you suggest?

Edited by ninjag on Friday 26th May 23:23

His is an auto. I've had a manual and that did it slightly too.

No need now as they've chosen an Astra

[ninjag]

BenS94 said:

ninjag said:

BenS94 said:

ninjag said:

BenS94 said:

ninjag said:

2012 Honda CRV 4th Gen 2.0i 49k miles. It's not a diesel but the petrol will be bullet proof and ULEZ compliant. Closer to your max budget, but with £2k to spare I doubt you'll have to spend any thing on it.

Great family cars, boot is big and rear seats slide forwards and back. With rear seats down it literally turns into a van! Wide opening doors as well.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202305157...


If really wanting a diesel, which does suit the Honda auto better, then there's this one. Personally, I would stick with petrol though.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202305117...

See Chops Garage on YouTube.... and avoid those.

Why?

Wobbling/shaking under acceleration, transmission flush and differential oil changes improve things, but don't totally fix things.

I think that's the manual transmission where there have been a few reports.

So what car do you suggest?

Edited by ninjag on Friday 26th May 23:23

His is an auto. I've had a manual and that did it slightly too.

No need now as they've chosen an Astra

His? So you are basing it on two cars lol Well my auto and manual were fine, so that balances it to zero

[BenS94]

ninjag said:

BenS94 said:

ninjag said:

BenS94 said:

ninjag said:

BenS94 said:

ninjag said:

2012 Honda CRV 4th Gen 2.0i 49k miles. It's not a diesel but the petrol will be bullet proof and ULEZ compliant. Closer to your max budget, but with £2k to spare I doubt you'll have to spend any thing on it.

Great family cars, boot is big and rear seats slide forwards and back. With rear seats down it literally turns into a van! Wide opening doors as well.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202305157...


If really wanting a diesel, which does suit the Honda auto better, then there's this one. Personally, I would stick with petrol though.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202305117...

See Chops Garage on YouTube.... and avoid those.

Why?

Wobbling/shaking under acceleration, transmission flush and differential oil changes improve things, but don't totally fix things.

I think that's the manual transmission where there have been a few reports.

So what car do you suggest?

Edited by ninjag on Friday 26th May 23:23

His is an auto. I've had a manual and that did it slightly too.

No need now as they've chosen an Astra

His? So you are basing it on two cars lol Well my auto and manual were fine, so that balances it to zero

If you watch the Chops Garage video on his CRV, you'll realise how wrong you are... if there were a "balance of zero" why have Honda added it as a service bulletin and are doing work in many cases free of charge?

[ninjag]

BenS94 said:

ninjag said:

BenS94 said:

ninjag said:

BenS94 said:

ninjag said:

BenS94 said:

ninjag said:

2012 Honda CRV 4th Gen 2.0i 49k miles. It's not a diesel but the petrol will be bullet proof and ULEZ compliant. Closer to your max budget, but with £2k to spare I doubt you'll have to spend any thing on it.

Great family cars, boot is big and rear seats slide forwards and back. With rear seats down it literally turns into a van! Wide opening doors as well.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202305157...


If really wanting a diesel, which does suit the Honda auto better, then there's this one. Personally, I would stick with petrol though.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202305117...

See Chops Garage on YouTube.... and avoid those.

Why?

Wobbling/shaking under acceleration, transmission flush and differential oil changes improve things, but don't totally fix things.

I think that's the manual transmission where there have been a few reports.

So what car do you suggest?

Edited by ninjag on Friday 26th May 23:23

His is an auto. I've had a manual and that did it slightly too.

No need now as they've chosen an Astra

His? So you are basing it on two cars lol Well my auto and manual were fine, so that balances it to zero

If you watch the Chops Garage video on his CRV, you'll realise how wrong you are... if there were a "balance of zero" why have Honda added it as a service bulletin and are doing work in many cases free of charge?

So it's getting fixed free of charge, then it's not a problem.

Almost every car has some sort of issue, some far more than others. You sound more like you have sour grapes.

[BenS94]

ninjag said:

BenS94 said:

ninjag said:

BenS94 said:

ninjag said:

BenS94 said:

ninjag said:

BenS94 said:

ninjag said:

2012 Honda CRV 4th Gen 2.0i 49k miles. It's not a diesel but the petrol will be bullet proof and ULEZ compliant. Closer to your max budget, but with £2k to spare I doubt you'll have to spend any thing on it.

Great family cars, boot is big and rear seats slide forwards and back. With rear seats down it literally turns into a van! Wide opening doors as well.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202305157...


If really wanting a diesel, which does suit the Honda auto better, then there's this one. Personally, I would stick with petrol though.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202305117...

See Chops Garage on YouTube.... and avoid those.

Why?

Wobbling/shaking under acceleration, transmission flush and differential oil changes improve things, but don't totally fix things.

I think that's the manual transmission where there have been a few reports.

So what car do you suggest?

Edited by ninjag on Friday 26th May 23:23

His is an auto. I've had a manual and that did it slightly too.

No need now as they've chosen an Astra

His? So you are basing it on two cars lol Well my auto and manual were fine, so that balances it to zero

If you watch the Chops Garage video on his CRV, you'll realise how wrong you are... if there were a "balance of zero" why have Honda added it as a service bulletin and are doing work in many cases free of charge?

So it's getting fixed free of charge, then it's not a problem.

Almost every car has some sort of issue, some far more than others. You sound more like you have sour grapes.

But it doesn't always happen. And after being done over by more than one dealer in the past, yes, I do. One went bust, still owing me £4,868.75.

[ninjag]

BenS94 said:

ninjag said:

BenS94 said:

ninjag said:

BenS94 said:

ninjag said:

BenS94 said:

ninjag said:

BenS94 said:

ninjag said:

2012 Honda CRV 4th Gen 2.0i 49k miles. It's not a diesel but the petrol will be bullet proof and ULEZ compliant. Closer to your max budget, but with £2k to spare I doubt you'll have to spend any thing on it.

Great family cars, boot is big and rear seats slide forwards and back. With rear seats down it literally turns into a van! Wide opening doors as well.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202305157...


If really wanting a diesel, which does suit the Honda auto better, then there's this one. Personally, I would stick with petrol though.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202305117...

See Chops Garage on YouTube.... and avoid those.

Why?

Wobbling/shaking under acceleration, transmission flush and differential oil changes improve things, but don't totally fix things.

I think that's the manual transmission where there have been a few reports.

So what car do you suggest?

Edited by ninjag on Friday 26th May 23:23

His is an auto. I've had a manual and that did it slightly too.

No need now as they've chosen an Astra

His? So you are basing it on two cars lol Well my auto and manual were fine, so that balances it to zero

If you watch the Chops Garage video on his CRV, you'll realise how wrong you are... if there were a "balance of zero" why have Honda added it as a service bulletin and are doing work in many cases free of charge?

So it's getting fixed free of charge, then it's not a problem.

Almost every car has some sort of issue, some far more than others. You sound more like you have sour grapes.

But it doesn't always happen. And after being done over by more than one dealer in the past, yes, I do. One went bust, still owing me £4,868.75.

Ah, the truth comes out lol

[BenS94]

ninjag said:

BenS94 said:

ninjag said:

BenS94 said:

ninjag said:

BenS94 said:

ninjag said:

BenS94 said:

ninjag said:

BenS94 said:

ninjag said:

2012 Honda CRV 4th Gen 2.0i 49k miles. It's not a diesel but the petrol will be bullet proof and ULEZ compliant. Closer to your max budget, but with £2k to spare I doubt you'll have to spend any thing on it.

Great family cars, boot is big and rear seats slide forwards and back. With rear seats down it literally turns into a van! Wide opening doors as well.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202305157...


If really wanting a diesel, which does suit the Honda auto better, then there's this one. Personally, I would stick with petrol though.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202305117...

See Chops Garage on YouTube.... and avoid those.

Why?

Wobbling/shaking under acceleration, transmission flush and differential oil changes improve things, but don't totally fix things.

I think that's the manual transmission where there have been a few reports.

So what car do you suggest?

Edited by ninjag on Friday 26th May 23:23

His is an auto. I've had a manual and that did it slightly too.

No need now as they've chosen an Astra

His? So you are basing it on two cars lol Well my auto and manual were fine, so that balances it to zero

If you watch the Chops Garage video on his CRV, you'll realise how wrong you are... if there were a "balance of zero" why have Honda added it as a service bulletin and are doing work in many cases free of charge?

So it's getting fixed free of charge, then it's not a problem.

Almost every car has some sort of issue, some far more than others. You sound more like you have sour grapes.

But it doesn't always happen. And after being done over by more than one dealer in the past, yes, I do. One went bust, still owing me £4,868.75.

Ah, the truth comes out lol

But there is still no denying the issue is there, is there? It's the typical "my way or no way" attitude that is quite frankly pathetic. Many cases are out there for people to see. Cars go wrong, sometimes people don't realise this as they somehow miss it, yet here you are, wading in, attempting to defend a commonly flawed product, that even the manufacturer admits and knows about.