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Exactly, it is in the same vein as squirting used engine oil up the exhaust, putting some in the header tank and claiming the head gasket has gone but they will still take it for half price.
Or just unplugging a sensor when they are under the bonnet on a viewing and claiming the car has an issue.
Absolute scammers, as you say no doubt they will be selling the car on.
Or just unplugging a sensor when they are under the bonnet on a viewing and claiming the car has an issue.
Absolute scammers, as you say no doubt they will be selling the car on.
OP the fact he's mentioned small claims court says to me he's not the type to resort to damaging your property or to come round to rough you up etc. I wouldn't have offered a refund, you're not a trader. As others have said, ignore him/block his number. If he turns up at your door (which i doubt) don't answer, if he doesn't go away call the police saying there is an irate madman at your door. If he threatens you or your property in any way whatsoever then inform the police.
Tl;dr forget about him.
Tl;dr forget about him.
Edited by hunt123 on Tuesday 8th August 15:36
You’re not alone OP, here’s a wiki of people starting similar threads
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Pelicula said:
Would the police not be interested in pursuing any of these individuals ?
Deception, theft, attempting to obtain money with menaces, causing harassment alarm and distress ?
I'm sure some would be tricky to prove, but others would be an easy nick surely ?
You'd have thought so? Deception, theft, attempting to obtain money with menaces, causing harassment alarm and distress ?
I'm sure some would be tricky to prove, but others would be an easy nick surely ?
He has been particularly threatening and unpleasant including screaming down the phone at me.
I'm a 42 year old reasonably robust guy with a decent corporate job where we do deal with contractors and legal discussions and also it's an FSA regulated environment where you have to have integrity, but also don't take any nonsense. If he continues I'll have no issues in representing or filing a police report for harassment. I don't like physical conflict or aggression but paperwork wise or formal conversation no issue at all.
Imagine if you were a 'stereotypical' elderly or vulnerable person etc....
Edited by PistonTim on Tuesday 8th August 15:53
PistonTim said:
Pelicula said:
Would the police not be interested in pursuing any of these individuals ?
Deception, theft, attempting to obtain money with menaces, causing harassment alarm and distress ?
I'm sure some would be tricky to prove, but others would be an easy nick surely ?
You'd have thought so? Deception, theft, attempting to obtain money with menaces, causing harassment alarm and distress ?
I'm sure some would be tricky to prove, but others would be an easy nick surely ?
He has been particularly threatening and unpleasant including screaming down the phone at me.
Pelicula said:
PistonTim said:
Pelicula said:
Would the police not be interested in pursuing any of these individuals ?
Deception, theft, attempting to obtain money with menaces, causing harassment alarm and distress ?
I'm sure some would be tricky to prove, but others would be an easy nick surely ?
You'd have thought so? Deception, theft, attempting to obtain money with menaces, causing harassment alarm and distress ?
I'm sure some would be tricky to prove, but others would be an easy nick surely ?
He has been particularly threatening and unpleasant including screaming down the phone at me.
More intimidation around if I don't cooperate or help with the 'cost of repairs' then he'll be taking me to court.
He also said he'd spoken to Citizens Advice and the Police about what action he could take.
Initially though he seemed desperate to return it yet as soon as I offered to collect it and refund all went silent which suggests that wasn't what he was going for.
PistonTim said:
More intimidation around if I don't cooperate or help with the 'cost of repairs' then he'll be taking me to court.
He also said he'd spoken to Citizens Advice and the Police about what action he could take.
Initially though he seemed desperate to return it yet as soon as I offered to collect it and refund all went silent which suggests that wasn't what he was going for.
All tactics to get you to cough up some cash. These people know what buttons to push.He also said he'd spoken to Citizens Advice and the Police about what action he could take.
Initially though he seemed desperate to return it yet as soon as I offered to collect it and refund all went silent which suggests that wasn't what he was going for.
People get scared of court, scared of CAB, scared of the Police. They'll be intimidated into paying the buyer a few hundred pounds to make it go away. They may even question their own version of events.........was the car really OK when I sold it? Have I ripped someone off?
The Police, in reality, can't do anything. It's a civil matter, unless he actually threatens your person or property.
PistonTim said:
No because it was sold to his 'girlfriend' who I never actually met or saw, I have her details of course on the V5 copy.
More intimidation around if I don't cooperate or help with the 'cost of repairs' then he'll be taking me to court.
He also said he'd spoken to Citizens Advice and the Police about what action he could take.
Initially though he seemed desperate to return it yet as soon as I offered to collect it and refund all went silent which suggests that wasn't what he was going for.
More threats that mean nothing. Its obvious that he is clutching at straws using a well versed scam. More intimidation around if I don't cooperate or help with the 'cost of repairs' then he'll be taking me to court.
He also said he'd spoken to Citizens Advice and the Police about what action he could take.
Initially though he seemed desperate to return it yet as soon as I offered to collect it and refund all went silent which suggests that wasn't what he was going for.
Just ignore it as others have said until you get the court summons, he will have to pay for it to go to court of course...
Muzzer79 said:
PistonTim said:
More intimidation around if I don't cooperate or help with the 'cost of repairs' then he'll be taking me to court.
He also said he'd spoken to Citizens Advice and the Police about what action he could take.
Initially though he seemed desperate to return it yet as soon as I offered to collect it and refund all went silent which suggests that wasn't what he was going for.
All tactics to get you to cough up some cash. These people know what buttons to push.He also said he'd spoken to Citizens Advice and the Police about what action he could take.
Initially though he seemed desperate to return it yet as soon as I offered to collect it and refund all went silent which suggests that wasn't what he was going for.
People get scared of court, scared of CAB, scared of the Police. They'll be intimidated into paying the buyer a few hundred pounds to make it go away. They may even question their own version of events.........was the car really OK when I sold it? Have I ripped someone off?
The Police, in reality, can't do anything. It's a civil matter, unless he actually threatens your person or property.
Hugo Stiglitz said:
You've kept all communication?
The I contacted that garage not heard of you etc.
On principle I'd happily wait the small claims and supply them with all the messages.
Autistic traits or not you aren't being bullied.
I haven’t told him that I spoke to the garage and they had no record of it, after I offered to collect it myself he went quiet last night and I just got a text saying he was going to pursue small claims this morning which I haven’t replied to.The I contacted that garage not heard of you etc.
On principle I'd happily wait the small claims and supply them with all the messages.
Autistic traits or not you aren't being bullied.
Everything I’ve done has been screenshotted.
PistonTim said:
I haven’t replied since his small claims message this morning and no intention to correspond more.
Good stuff. Keep doing that, he'll get bored and realise you aren't falling it. Your only response now should be if he threatens you to inform the police but it won't probably/hopefully won't come to that.
hunt123 said:
PistonTim said:
I haven’t replied since his small claims message this morning and no intention to correspond more.
Good stuff. Keep doing that, he'll get bored and realise you aren't falling it. Your only response now should be if he threatens you to inform the police but it won't probably/hopefully won't come to that.
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