What is good value in the luxobarge market these days?

What is good value in the luxobarge market these days?

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Rooted

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32 posts

128 months

Saturday 12th August 2023
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I am looking for a big, wafty RWD saloon with a V8 and lots of expensive toys that will almost certainly break. I haven't been in the market for one since before Covid and the prices have doubled/tripled in some cases.....so where is the value? I am thinking along the lines of LS460s, 7 series, E Class etc...Honda Legend perhaps?

105.4

4,097 posts

72 months

Saturday 12th August 2023
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Jaguar XJ X350.

£5000 will get you into something very well looked after and very nice, (XJR excluded).


edited to add, don’t discount the 3.0 petrol V6’s. It’s an absolute peach of an engine.

Edited by 105.4 on Saturday 12th August 09:44

Rooted

Original Poster:

32 posts

128 months

Saturday 12th August 2023
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Thanks - I will start looking!

fflump

1,385 posts

39 months

Saturday 12th August 2023
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About £15k gets a continental flying spur
What could possibly go wrong

I’d be looking at a mk5 quattroporte personally

YorksLS18

56 posts

14 months

Saturday 12th August 2023
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fflump said:
About £15k gets a continental flying spur
What could possibly go wrong

I’d be looking at a mk5 quattroporte personally
Or just get the Lexus 460 and whack some Rolls Royce wheels on it like this guy. Best of both wink ...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202307239...



Edited by YorksLS18 on Saturday 12th August 09:34

Rooted

Original Poster:

32 posts

128 months

Saturday 12th August 2023
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Would those wheels be worth anything though?!

Scootersp

3,197 posts

189 months

Saturday 12th August 2023
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Import LS460 (then it's lower tax if over 10 years old)

Or 2005 GS430

If you are brave/stupid and want to try a V12 760Li pre 2005.


Rooted

Original Poster:

32 posts

128 months

Saturday 12th August 2023
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A good tip on the import idea

SWoll

18,442 posts

259 months

Saturday 12th August 2023
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biggbn

23,446 posts

221 months

Saturday 12th August 2023
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Gotta be a Lexus.

Jamescrs

4,486 posts

66 months

Saturday 12th August 2023
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I'd suggest looking at Audi A8 as well.

Rooted

Original Poster:

32 posts

128 months

Saturday 12th August 2023
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Thanks all - I appreciate the ideas

ZX10R NIN

27,641 posts

126 months

Saturday 12th August 2023
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I'd say the 5.0 Jaguar XJ is good value:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202305237...

GeniusOfLove

1,385 posts

13 months

Tuesday 15th August 2023
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I've had a few X350s and X351s and aside from the old boys and their "a proper jaguar must have four headlights, be a three box saloon, and have a toby carvery interior" the X351 is twice the car. It's absolutely fabulous in the high spec versions.

The arse is dropping out of the barge market at trade auctions FWIW, which suggests they're not flying off forecourts so you should be able to have a vigorous haggle. Those 5.0 XJs take forever to sell at trade auctions, and unless they're mega low miles they don't get strong prices,so rest assured the dealer will have loads of margin in a £12k one.

I paid £500 less than the linked light blue 5.0 for a fully historied 2010 Supersport with 55k on the clock 3 months ago, and a little more than a year before it had sold from a "specialist dealer" for over £20k, you probably don't want to be that guy.

The supercharged XJ is a truly hilarious car if you can find one. Laugh out loud funny on every drive, even more so than the Mercedes S600 twin turbo I had previously (also fabulous but woeful for reliability and ballache compared to the XJs I've had).

It's absolutely the drivers choice of barge, I really have no idea what I'd replace it with.

williamp

19,265 posts

274 months

Tuesday 15th August 2023
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Chrylser 300c with the Hemi v8

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202304126...

Bonus points if you fit the bentley bodykit

flatso

1,240 posts

130 months

Tuesday 15th August 2023
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GeniusOfLove said:
I've had a few X350s and X351s and aside from the old boys and their "a proper jaguar must have four headlights, be a three box saloon, and have a toby carvery interior" the X351 is twice the car. It's absolutely fabulous in the high spec versions.

The arse is dropping out of the barge market at trade auctions FWIW, which suggests they're not flying off forecourts so you should be able to have a vigorous haggle. Those 5.0 XJs take forever to sell at trade auctions, and unless they're mega low miles they don't get strong prices,so rest assured the dealer will have loads of margin in a £12k one.

I paid £500 less than the linked light blue 5.0 for a fully historied 2010 Supersport with 55k on the clock 3 months ago, and a little more than a year before it had sold from a "specialist dealer" for over £20k, you probably don't want to be that guy.

The supercharged XJ is a truly hilarious car if you can find one. Laugh out loud funny on every drive, even more so than the Mercedes S600 twin turbo I had previously (also fabulous but woeful for reliability and ballache compared to the XJs I've had).

It's absolutely the drivers choice of barge, I really have no idea what I'd replace it with.
As much as I hated the x351 design when it first came out, I have to admit that it has aged very well, to the point that I always turn my head when one drives by and I continue to obsesively think about it for hours afterwards. They are very rare here in Switzerland and the used prices are still strong.
Which engine do you think would be the best choice (in AWD mode)?

GeniusOfLove

1,385 posts

13 months

Tuesday 15th August 2023
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flatso said:
As much as I hated the x351 design when it first came out, I have to admit that it has aged very well, to the point that I always turn my head when one drives by and I continue to obsesively think about it for hours afterwards. They are very rare here in Switzerland and the used prices are still strong.
Which engine do you think would be the best choice (in AWD mode)?
They look much better in person than in photos. The interior is an absolute star though, if the original purchaser had enough imagination not to go for black/black/black.

I'm not sure what options came in AWD for LHD Euro markets? The NASP 5.0 was only around for a couple of years and I'm pretty sure was never AWD, which is a shame as it's probably the "goldilocks" engine, but none of them were real duffers and even the diesel doesn't seem to have the crank snapping issues Land Rovers have in the Jaguars it was fitted to, I see loads on intergalatic mileages.

ilikejam

1,089 posts

117 months

Tuesday 15th August 2023
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Your chariot awaits...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202305257...




Or is this more sensible? Probably not a word that belongs in a thread like this...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202307250...


TikTak

1,587 posts

20 months

Tuesday 15th August 2023
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If you don't mind high milers, fleet and ex rep cars the world opens up even more.

Seen a few ex Addison Lee S Classes, around 5 years old, Full Merc service history, priced at about half of a private seller. Just have to deal with the odo showing 150k+. Might not get a V8 but the V6s aren't to be too sniffed at.

Either that or you can come join the HSV crew and get yourself a VXR8. evil

GeniusOfLove

1,385 posts

13 months

Tuesday 15th August 2023
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A *lot* of clocking goes on with diesel S Classes in the private hire market, I'd rather have an ex AL 5 year old one with 150k on the clock than an 8 year old S350d that claims to have only done 80k for the same money.

Hint: No eight year old S350d has ACTUALLY only done 80k miles hehe