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[biggbn]

macron said:

biggbn said:

Went down to garage to confirm and yup, it's sold. They have a lovely 2009 registered but older shape Accord saloon, 2.4i vtec, bog standard, 40k miles, full leather, auto....asking 7995!!!!! Would be a lovely old car to Swan around in but crikey

That they probably gave 799 for

Exactly. I don't mind paying extra for 'proper' cars but that one is taking it a bit too far. Maybe of it had been a Type S estate or something but even then...

[Dan Singh]

biggbn said:

macron said:

biggbn said:

Went down to garage to confirm and yup, it's sold. They have a lovely 2009 registered but older shape Accord saloon, 2.4i vtec, bog standard, 40k miles, full leather, auto....asking 7995!!!!! Would be a lovely old car to Swan around in but crikey

That they probably gave 799 for

Exactly. I don't mind paying extra for 'proper' cars but that one is taking it a bit too far. Maybe of it had been a Type S estate or something but even then...

Its even a lot for the later shape estate, something I'm on the lookout for bit they all seem to have massive miles or are too far away, usually both.

[biggbn]

Dan Singh said:

biggbn said:

macron said:

biggbn said:

Went down to garage to confirm and yup, it's sold. They have a lovely 2009 registered but older shape Accord saloon, 2.4i vtec, bog standard, 40k miles, full leather, auto....asking 7995!!!!! Would be a lovely old car to Swan around in but crikey

That they probably gave 799 for

Exactly. I don't mind paying extra for 'proper' cars but that one is taking it a bit too far. Maybe of it had been a Type S estate or something but even then...

Its even a lot for the later shape estate, something I'm on the lookout for bit they all seem to have massive miles or are too far away, usually both.

No argument it's a lot, but if it was an estate in the right color, well specced with low miles and a history, you could maybe see it as, what, a 4-5k car IF you were keeping it? I'm gonna keep my eye on it as it might end up punted to auction where it might make 1500 quid, they'd maybe listen to a more realistic offer then....I mean, this is comedy pricing, right? It must be last of that shape because it shouldn't be on an 09, should it?

https://www.westendmotorgroup.co.uk/used-cars?used...

Edited by biggbn on Monday 22 April 11:22

[nomank]

Dan Singh said:

Its even a lot for the later shape estate, something I'm on the lookout for bit they all seem to have massive miles or are too far away, usually both.

I'm currently running a 09 new shape 2.0 petrol auto ES-GT touring (estate). Has about 143k on the clock and good ole Autotrader reckons it's worth £350 as a part-ex. I really would like to sell and get something different (I'm doing lots of motorway miles at the moment) but at that kind of pricing it's not worth it. Saying that if they really can punt that Accord for £8k mine must be worth more than roughly the yearly tax so make me an offer!

[QBee]

nomank said:

Dan Singh said:

Its even a lot for the later shape estate, something I'm on the lookout for bit they all seem to have massive miles or are too far away, usually both.

I'm currently running a 09 new shape 2.0 petrol auto ES-GT touring (estate). Has about 143k on the clock and good ole Autotrader reckons it's worth £350 as a part-ex. I really would like to sell and get something different (I'm doing lots of motorway miles at the moment) but at that kind of pricing it's not worth it. Saying that if they really can punt that Accord for £8k mine must be worth more than roughly the yearly tax so make me an offer!

09 sounds new to me - as viewed from a shed collection that ranges from V to 05.
But it is still 15 years old I guess.

They were good cars, those Accords.
We had a 2010 one on our company fleet from new.
It never broke down, no maintenance costs other than servicing and tyres.
The salesman who had it first did 40,000 miles a year in it.

[LayZ]

Giant GL 420 recovered from Hull back to north Lancs. 33mpg across the M62 on the trip back, better than my old 4.4 FFRR. On the less-than-economical side, £735 tax.



Spec is extensive, £7k in options. Distronic, xenons, harmon kardon, 4 zone climate, keyless-go, 20" wheels, memory, cooled comfort seats. Powered third row all works.

It has 4x matching almost new Michelin Primacy all seasons, so best part of a grand in tyres there.

Big history file, specialist history til June last year. 171k now. It has a full topend rebuild in 2019 (new timing chains) for a bill of £4k.

I had asked the seller if it had a towbar, he said no. This is what made me waiver about buying it, since there's always a market for something that will tow 3.5t. I think I shrieked in excitement when I found a factory MB detachable towbar in the spare wheel well.

It was cheap because it has airmatic problems, it defaulted to Sport mode and said malfunction on the way home, but after stopping at the sevices for 15 mintues it was back and could switch between sport/comfort/normal. I have read the codes and I have a lot of diagnosis to do. Not sure how long I'll keep it given the tax and that I don't need it, but I thought I can probably fix it and not lose anything and use it for the summer. We'll see.

[bolidemichael]

I’m assuming that you didn’t conduct a VIN check on the Merc and properly geek out before committing?

[sawman]

spotted a 02 year c209 clk 500 for sale locally - whats the bork factor with these, quite fancy smoking around in a 5l V8, I guess rust with this vintage of merc is the enemy, are there any complicated systems to worry about??

[bolidemichael]

The only thing I can think of is that an 02 may be mated with a 5G, rather than a 7G gearbox. The latter would be preferential, for me.

[donkmeister]

LayZ said:

Giant GL 420 recovered from Hull back to north Lancs. 33mpg across the M62 on the trip back, better than my old 4.4 FFRR. On the less-than-economical side, £735 tax.

Mercedes (and BMW) engines of that era were remarkably efficient when not on it. Obviously if you hoof it that power has to come from burning more fuel, but people who have only ever had "normal" sized engines will ask with curiosity (or grim schadenfreude!) what MPG you get and be surprised that it's not single figures everywhere.

Re the codes, even with a marque specific tool there's no substitute for a genuine STAR diagnostic by your nearest reputable indy. Unfortunately I handed over mine when I sold my E500 but the level of detail is much greater and the Indy's technician will have a better understanding of what actually needs to be done rather than priming the parts cannon.

[giggity]

sawman said:

spotted a 02 year c209 clk 500 for sale locally - whats the bork factor with these, quite fancy smoking around in a 5l V8, I guess rust with this vintage of merc is the enemy, are there any complicated systems to worry about??

Will be rust and the dated interior switchgear vs the later cars.

That said, the M113 is a bombproof engine as is the 5 Speed box, mind it’s a 20+ year old car now.

[1Rb]

giggity said:

sawman said:

spotted a 02 year c209 clk 500 for sale locally - whats the bork factor with these, quite fancy smoking around in a 5l V8, I guess rust with this vintage of merc is the enemy, are there any complicated systems to worry about??

Will be rust and the dated interior switchgear vs the later cars.

That said, the M113 is a bombproof engine as is the 5 Speed box, mind it’s a 20+ year old car now.

Ditto this - I had a 53 plate and little to go wrong. In the time I had it I did snapped springs (common) and a control arm. Check for clicking behind the dash on start up - mine did this and I never got it fixed but it relates to the stepper motor which is quite an expensive fix as the dash has to come off etc.

[GeniusOfLove]

giggity said:

sawman said:

spotted a 02 year c209 clk 500 for sale locally - whats the bork factor with these, quite fancy smoking around in a 5l V8, I guess rust with this vintage of merc is the enemy, are there any complicated systems to worry about??

Will be rust and the dated interior switchgear vs the later cars.

That said, the M113 is a bombproof engine as is the 5 Speed box, mind it’s a 20+ year old car now.

I see plenty of the later ones rusting too, not as catastrophic as the really bad models from the 90s and early 00s but you can expect a 15 - 20 year old Mercedes to have blistering at the very least, in my experience.

I really rather like them but they hew very closely to the W203 C Class so are about as premium and high quality in feel as a pair of ASDA slip on plastic shoes. I certainly can't see why anyone ever bothered with a four pot one, but it's a cheap and pretty robust route into a shed money V8.

Values seem to be very very very gently increasing (they pretty much all make it into four figures now) for CLK500s at trade auctions. The small-ish car and large engine combo is always a winner.

[bolidemichael]

The convertible one has always appealed as a summer run around with the family, before Ukraine, interest rates and punitive tax environments put paid to all such flights of fancy. Sigh.

[RUI488]

I had a GL420 and really enjoyed owning it.
£500/annum road tax at the time wasn’t too bad paying it monthly.
Reason i sold it was that it sprang an automatic gearbox radiator leak which i couldn’t be certain it was only going to be that so i sold it with all issues declared on eBay as spares or repair.

Unfortunately i sold it to a man who immediately stuck it back on eBay with none of the issues i had been completely transparent with declared.
Probably made quite a few grand out of me but my conscience won’t let me behave like that.

YD07 VMK (IIRC) - steer clear.

Edited by RUI488 on Wednesday 24th April 14:45

mod edit. No need for the racial description

[anotherswifty]

At the risk of rekindling Fridaygate re moderation - I took the ref to permatan to be the sort of person who frequents tanning salons with luminous teeth who might be accused of being a chav, or the trope of Essex man.
Scrump - appreciate you have a job to do, and a fine job you do too.
Did the comment really have racial overtones ?

[phil_cardiff]

anotherswifty said:

At the risk of rekindling Fridaygate re moderation - I took the ref to permatan to be the sort of person who frequents tanning salons with luminous teeth who might be accused of being a chav, or the trope of Essex man.
Scrump - appreciate you have a job to do, and a fine job you do too.
Did the comment really have racial overtones ?

Yes it did. And I'm a left wing fanny if I don't like it, apparently.

[bolidemichael]

phil_cardiff said:

anotherswifty said:

At the risk of rekindling Fridaygate re moderation - I took the ref to permatan to be the sort of person who frequents tanning salons with luminous teeth who might be accused of being a chav, or the trope of Essex man.
Scrump - appreciate you have a job to do, and a fine job you do too.
Did the comment really have racial overtones ?

Yes it did. And I'm a left wing fanny if I don't like it, apparently.

I didn’t clock the controversial reference, but should note that it’s courteous of a mod to leave a calling card.

[anotherswifty]

phil_cardiff said:

Yes it did. And I'm a left wing fanny if I don't like it, apparently.

I stand corrected, happy thread is returned to its normal calm state. As you were, carry on.

[BenS94]

anotherswifty said:

phil_cardiff said:

Yes it did. And I'm a left wing fanny if I don't like it, apparently.

I stand corrected, happy thread is returned to its normal calm state. As you were, carry on.

Probably my fault as I was sharing experiences - what ever next? "Don't buy a car from XYZ" posts edited or removed?

But yes, that GL of RUI is untaxed and may appear up for sale again.