Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 22]

Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 22]

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donkmeister

8,245 posts

101 months

Monday 1st April
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six port said:
Posting this wondering if anyone knows much about it?
Looks a rare late sport with 7 speed box and big ticket items done, although seller tells me after 2 new batteries it still goes flat after being sat.
It’s fairly local so going to go take a look as my E39 touring barge thread purchase is not ULEZ compliant yet this V8 is..



Missed this first time around - have you got a link to the ad? We've got a fair few E500 owners (former and current) who can tell you if it really has had all the big stuff done, and what appears to have been missed.

The M113 V8 in this is truly a wonder, lovely and torquey but also surprisingly economical (which, with the 80l fuel tank, makes for exceptional range).

21st Century Man

40,969 posts

249 months

Monday 1st April
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Rayny said:
21st Century Man said:
O/T

Nurburgring

Century

Got the T-shirt

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Yeah - But did both the car and yourself get back home safely....
Just got home, an amazing trip with a mate (Lamborghini Huracan) and a fantastic experience.



Thread car that was when I bought it, if one doesn't include shipping and taxes smile

Edited by 21st Century Man on Monday 1st April 12:04

donkmeister

8,245 posts

101 months

Monday 1st April
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V12 howl is the only way for the ring.

Rayny

1,193 posts

202 months

Monday 1st April
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To my mind, a Century and the 'Ring just do not seem to be a natural pairing - But it looks in it's element in that picture.

You sound suitably enthused - Your first time I take it..

W00DY

15,501 posts

227 months

Monday 1st April
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21st Century Man said:
Just got home, an amazing trip with a mate (Lamborghini Huracan) and a fantastic experience.



Thread car that was when I bought it, if one doesn't include shipping and taxes smile

Edited by 21st Century Man on Monday 1st April 12:04
Awesome. Can't imagine there have been many others.

dscam

1,876 posts

188 months

Monday 1st April
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W00DY said:
21st Century Man said:
Just got home, an amazing trip with a mate (Lamborghini Huracan) and a fantastic experience.



Thread car that was when I bought it, if one doesn't include shipping and taxes smile

Edited by 21st Century Man on Monday 1st April 12:04
Awesome. Can't imagine there have been many others.
Agreed - super cool!

Very small number will be able to boast of taking a Century around.

martynr

1,110 posts

175 months

Tuesday 2nd April
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21st Century Man said:
Just got home, an amazing trip with a mate (Lamborghini Huracan) and a fantastic experience.



Thread car that was when I bought it, if one doesn't include shipping and taxes smile

Edited by 21st Century Man on Monday 1st April 12:04
Who crossed the chequered flag first? The godfather or the Yakuza?



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21st Century Man

40,969 posts

249 months

Tuesday 2nd April
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dscam said:
Agreed - super cool!

Very small number will be able to boast of taking a Century around.
It's very probably a club of 1.

Car Friday was amazing, but really busy and it was rain/drizzle all day. Saturday was heaving on the ring, wet in the morning but drier later, which is what folks were waiting for, so the queues were huge in the afternoon. A fair few pride & joys being recovered from track too, I guess if you damage your stripped out old 3 series it's bad enough, but stuffing a GT3 and the like? I saw several high end cars like that being recovered.

I'd planned to go early on the Sunday morning, but it was thick fog and a heavy morning dew, plus the clocks went forward too so it took longer to dry off. Then it was a balance between the track getting drier through the morning but also getting busier. I was going to do maybe 6 laps, an exploratory couple to get a feel, then maybe a couple pushing a bit harder, then a couple with some proper effort. It wasn't until 11am that it had dried out a bit though. The track was literally black & white between the dry and wet bits, slippery as anything where still damp in the shade. The TRC light was flashing for Japan and the accompanying scolding beep was chastising the hell out of me, I had more than a few wiggles even taking it easy. I kept well to the right so as not to be in anyone's way, only taking the racing line when it was clear behind me. The big dogs come by at ferocious and hilarious speed.

I didn't like the wet bits and it was getting busier and more fraught too, so having broken my ring virginity with one lap, I decided that would do, maybe early morning midweek at a nondescript time of the year next time, rather than car Friday and the opening weekend, which is just nuts!

14:29 Woeful hehe

I love the Autobahn. Up to my JDM limiter at 180kph, feather the throttle slightly so it's just off the limiter (it feels like a misfire if I keep it planted). Cruise for hours like that, 120-125 mph on my GPS (which is more than the 180kph/112mph it's supposed to be). Would love to lose the limiter though, must be good for 155mph+ without it.

ingenieur

4,097 posts

182 months

Tuesday 2nd April
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wonder if there's any bahnstormers which would have vaguely sensible RPM at 100+mph? I think mine are all long geared but would all be well over 3k at that sort of speed. It's about as much RPM as you want for cruising.

E90_M3Ross

35,122 posts

213 months

Tuesday 2nd April
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ingenieur said:
wonder if there's any bahnstormers which would have vaguely sensible RPM at 100+mph? I think mine are all long geared but would all be well over 3k at that sort of speed. It's about as much RPM as you want for cruising.
My Lexus LS460 was around 2400rpm at 100mph. My dad's F Type R was 2100rpm so I assume the XJR would be similar.

21st Century Man

40,969 posts

249 months

Tuesday 2nd April
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I didn't think to look at the RPM, the tachometer is a tiny little green digital numerical at the bottom of the dashboard. It's silent even at high RPM anyway.

ingenieur

4,097 posts

182 months

Tuesday 2nd April
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21st Century Man said:
I didn't think to look at the RPM, the tachometer is a tiny little green digital numerical at the bottom of the dashboard. It's silent even at high RPM anyway.
This is essential data when talking about doing 120mph on the bahn. You could probably figure it out based on what you know it does at 70mph... the legal limit which nobody in the UK ever breaks. I estimated for our 3 panzers, they may well be under 3k and I've made bad guesses. I estimate they would be in that region though.

21st Century Man

40,969 posts

249 months

Tuesday 2nd April
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I used to cruise flat out in my LDV Convoy, 80-90 mph, no tacho, then somebody told me I really shouldn't be doing that in a diesel engine for such prolonged periods. I worked out the RPM and I'd been using all of them, probably for thousands of miles like that. Oops!



Edited by 21st Century Man on Tuesday 2nd April 09:53

ingenieur

4,097 posts

182 months

Tuesday 2nd April
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21st Century Man said:
I used to cruise flat out in my LDV Convoy, 80-90 mph, no tacho, then somebody told me I really shouldn't be doing that in a diesel engine for such prolonged periods. I worked out the RPM and I'd been using all of them, probably for thousands of miles like that. Oops!
Why is that especially bad in a diesel? Just because the LDV Convoy isn't meant to or something about diesels in particular?

martynr

1,110 posts

175 months

Tuesday 2nd April
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Convoys love to rev anyway. No harm been done there anyway one would think.


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donkmeister

8,245 posts

101 months

Wednesday 3rd April
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ingenieur said:
wonder if there's any bahnstormers which would have vaguely sensible RPM at 100+mph? I think mine are all long geared but would all be well over 3k at that sort of speed. It's about as much RPM as you want for cruising.
I vaguely recall my mate's A6 3.0 BiTDi did 100mph at about 2,000rpm in top.

I'd imagine anything from the last 20 years with a decently grunty engine and 7+ gears will be geared for 2-2.5k at 100mph.

ETA just checked automobile catalogue and sure enough, 50mph per 1,000 rpm in 8th

Edited by donkmeister on Wednesday 3rd April 09:01

CharlesdeGaulle

26,361 posts

181 months

Wednesday 3rd April
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21st Century Man said:
I used to cruise flat out in my LDV Convoy, 80-90 mph, no tacho, then somebody told me I really shouldn't be doing that in a diesel engine for such prolonged periods. I worked out the RPM and I'd been using all of them, probably for thousands of miles like that. Oops!

That's impressively geeky.

E90_M3Ross

35,122 posts

213 months

Wednesday 3rd April
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donkmeister said:
ingenieur said:
wonder if there's any bahnstormers which would have vaguely sensible RPM at 100+mph? I think mine are all long geared but would all be well over 3k at that sort of speed. It's about as much RPM as you want for cruising.
I vaguely recall my mate's A6 3.0 BiTDi did 100mph at about 2,000rpm in top.

I'd imagine anything from the last 20 years with a decently grunty engine and 7+ gears will be geared for 2-2.5k at 100mph.

ETA just checked automobile catalogue and sure enough, 50mph per 1,000 rpm in 8th

Edited by donkmeister on Wednesday 3rd April 09:01
Yes but diesels will always rev lower as they have a much lower redline. A diesel doing 2k at 100mph when its redline is 4.5k is geared to 250mph, yet a petrol doing 2000rpm when it redlines at 7k rpm is probably a bit more relaxed.

donkmeister

8,245 posts

101 months

Wednesday 3rd April
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True.

On the subject of long-geared barges with decent engines, does anyone else find that there's an almost complete absence of engine braking in town/city driving that gives you a different driving "rhythm" to other traffic?

The engine is barely ticking over at 30mph so it feels like a choice between using the brakes more than feels mechanically sympathetic to match the deceleration of hoi polloi with their fun-size engines, or leaving bigger gaps and getting tailgated by people who you know would be holding you up on the open road.

21st Century Man

40,969 posts

249 months

Wednesday 3rd April
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
21st Century Man said:
I used to cruise flat out in my LDV Convoy, 80-90 mph, no tacho, then somebody told me I really shouldn't be doing that in a diesel engine for such prolonged periods. I worked out the RPM and I'd been using all of them, probably for thousands of miles like that. Oops!

That's impressively geeky.
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