head gasket failure prompts winter rebuild

head gasket failure prompts winter rebuild

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Jamescmr2

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713 posts

179 months

Friday 18th November 2011
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here are the bottom of the heads. comments welcome:






battery just went dead on the camera so couldn't get ones of the pistons yet. on charge now


cheers

wessexrfc

4,326 posts

186 months

Friday 18th November 2011
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James, think I would be looking for my money back!! not good. Best of luck with the rebuild

Jamescmr2

Original Poster:

713 posts

179 months

Friday 18th November 2011
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wessexrfc said:
James, think I would be looking for my money back!! not good. Best of luck with the rebuild
we'll see...

enjoying working on the car now though. will be good once i'm getting it back together

TuxMan

9,010 posts

238 months

Friday 18th November 2011
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On my iPhone so cannot see the detail !!! What am I looking at ?? Is there signs of det ??

mgbond

6,749 posts

232 months

Friday 18th November 2011
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Doesn't look like it

FUNKSTER UK

765 posts

202 months

Saturday 19th November 2011
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All looks fine to me, just head gasket issue I'm guessing. I would be concerned with the mismatched gaskets myself !

Good luck on the rebuild James........ The term build bigger and better springs to mind.

spoed

99 posts

168 months

Saturday 19th November 2011
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Just my 2 cents, Is it not worth getting a AER motor from the states which is what the Rossion uses. ? It comes with all the bits needed and is plug and play. Keep yours as a project motor to rebuild later or just sell it . A AER is $4200-
I sold my old one and bought a AER and total cost at end of day including shipping for the swap was 1300 UK pounds equivalent.
Just a thought............

Gadgeroonie

5,362 posts

236 months

Saturday 19th November 2011
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James if you decise on an AER motor might be interested in buying your old engine


Adrian W

13,875 posts

228 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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Jamescmr2 said:
wessexrfc said:
James, think I would be looking for my money back!! not good. Best of luck with the rebuild
we'll see...

enjoying working on the car now though. will be good once i'm getting it back together
Is this the one that was in a workshop near Nottingham for a very long time?

TuxMan

9,010 posts

238 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Adrian W said:
Is this the one that was in a workshop near Nottingham for a very long time?
YES .....:-(

andygtt

8,345 posts

264 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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TuxMan said:
Adrian W said:
Is this the one that was in a workshop near Nottingham for a very long time?
YES .....:-(
they tried to pressure me to get my car in the workshop rather than me do stuff myself (exhaust etc)... after James and my own experiences Im glad I said no way!

remember there is a very clear no name or shame policy on this forum, so whilst people can continue to tout for business through it (via email etc) we are not allowed to tell people what happened and warn them away.

So no posting of names else I suspect the tread will be deleted etc!

Blu3R

2,371 posts

199 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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andygtt said:
they tried to pressure me to get my car in the workshop rather than me do stuff myself (exhaust etc)... after James and my own experiences Im glad I said no way!

remember there is a very clear no name or shame policy on this forum, so whilst people can continue to tout for business through it (via email etc) we are not allowed to tell people what happened and warn them away.

So no posting of names else I suspect the tread will be deleted etc!
..... Which reminds me, I haven't checked NobleParts for a while.....

GTO600

1,877 posts

251 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Blu3R said:
..... Which reminds me, I haven't checked NobleParts for a while.....
Suttle !

Mike Tuckwood

1,261 posts

199 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Some intriguing issues with that HGF there James?
Perhaps it might be worth checking back with whoever fitted that front head gasket and asking them where it was sourced (doesn't look like a genuine one to me), but more importantly, what torque settings did they use and did they follow the correct stud tightening sequence?


Mike.

Mike Tuckwood

1,261 posts

199 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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andygtt said:
they tried to pressure me to get my car in the workshop rather than me do stuff myself (exhaust etc)... after James and my own experiences Im glad I said no way!
It's a shame you said "no way", it would have saved you from making a complete hash of your exhaust plumbing which I warned you about in advance of doing it, consequently, you may recall, I mailed you (I still have the mails if you can't remember) telling you it was completely wrong and why.

You subsequently had to re-do the exhaust in line with what I'd told you, and then thanked the "anonymous" people who had highlighted the problems to you? biggrin


Mike.

andygtt

8,345 posts

264 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Mike Tuckwood said:
andygtt said:
they tried to pressure me to get my car in the workshop rather than me do stuff myself (exhaust etc)... after James and my own experiences Im glad I said no way!
It's a shame you said "no way", it would have saved you from making a complete hash of your exhaust plumbing which I warned you about in advance of doing it, consequently, you may recall, I mailed you (I still have the mails if you can't remember) telling you it was completely wrong and why.

You subsequently had to re-do the exhaust in line with what I'd told you, and then thanked the "anonymous" people who had highlighted the problems to you? biggrin


Mike.
well take this as an official thank you for your comments, strange though that you deem it needed now as you chose to make them privately and I thanked you in person and even put a mention on the thread that you comment on... it was actually changed while at the exhaust fabricators before i picked it up and took 1hour and was hardy a hash in the same way as for example leaving bits of rubber glove or second hand bearings in an engine build would be!... it was also a minor change that most thought unnecessary, but I don't mind admitting when Im wrong and putting things right.

We all make mistakes... that was by a long way the smallest mistake I made on that engine rebuild.

Mike Tuckwood

1,261 posts

199 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Absolutely Andy, I agree.
That unfortunately is the problem in here though, people who don't do this for a living, reading (or just as often NOT reading) BITS from the internet and thinking they can "Do It Yourself".

I'm sure there's nothing better for the Ego, than to imply an expert has "messed up", without ever understanding why something was done. and imply that you did it better/resolved the "issue".
I realised you were thanking me at the time with regard to the exhaust thread, despite many of the self proclaimed hobby experts saying what a wonderful job the first attempt looked, redface which is why I didn't comment further at that point. Though when someone helps me like that, I thank them particulalry and don't try and mask their involvement..... The inference is present there though, that you know better?

I'm not trying to turn this into a fight at all, just my observations from the sidelines where I'm happy to watch from a


Mike.
Self edited to remove potentially inflamatory comments.

Edited by Mike Tuckwood on Monday 21st November 16:28

Jamescmr2

Original Poster:

713 posts

179 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Let's keep this thread to the title thanks...

Jamescmr2

Original Poster:

713 posts

179 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Mike Tuckwood said:
Some intriguing issues with that HGF there James?
Perhaps it might be worth checking back with whoever fitted that front head gasket and asking them where it was sourced (doesn't look like a genuine one to me), but more importantly, what torque settings did they use and did they follow the correct stud tightening sequence?


Mike.
Mike,

A little confused by your questions?

Answers being: you fitted new head gaskets and the updated ARP head bolts during the rebuild at yours!

Just to be clear; when the car was collected from yours on the trailer it was taken to Trevor jasper who dropped a map on to get the car running properly. It was taken to jetstream who performed a visual inspection. Then I collected it. It worked for 6 days before the gearbox failed. The gearbox was then removed and rebuilt without removing the engine (chassis piece removed). The car then worked for a number of weeks before the head gasket failed.
James

Edited by Jamescmr2 on Monday 21st November 16:12

Mike Tuckwood

1,261 posts

199 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Phone me and I'll explain, though to help things along a little (maybe), that's NOT a head gasket that we've fitted, or have ever seen to be able to identify before either?


Mike.

Edited by Mike Tuckwood on Monday 21st November 16:33