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David87 said:
wyson said:
An early Model Y out of Shanghai without the rear parcel shelf was without question the second worst riding car I have been in, apart from my mate’s lowered and slammed Ford Escort back in the day.
BMW M Sport suspension I’ve experienced in 1, 3 and 5 series on run flats had nothing on that early Model Y.
My wife has an OG Model Y. Superb car overall, but the ride is dog sBMW M Sport suspension I’ve experienced in 1, 3 and 5 series on run flats had nothing on that early Model Y.
Edited by wyson on Friday 17th March 14:16
t. We’re waiting on the updated Model X arriving (or maybe now the Kia EV9) as we need more space, but if we didn’t I’d swap the Y for a 2023 car with a better ride.dvshannow said:
Which wheels does it have ?
19’s. I watched youtube channels that said wheel size matters little. One guy tried dropping to 18 inch after markets from his 20 or 21 inch uberturbines. Said it made a small difference but not much. They all had to get new coil over suspension kits to sort it, but of course that brought its own issues because Tesla wouldn’t touch them for warranty work.
Can’t remember the exact issue, but one guy needed warranty work on his Model Y that needed the front suspension removed from one side. Tesla refused to touch his suspension because of the coil over kit. He was annoyed and considering his options… refit the standard suspension, or remove the coil overs elsewhere and trailer his Model Y to the service centre and do it again in reverse. Either way, a not inconsiderable expense.
Edited by wyson on Saturday 18th March 10:05
Hard to feel sympathy for that situation. If you want warranty service then don’t make major modifications to your car. I think its perfectly reasonable that Tesla don’t want to work on a third party coilover kit.
If the car is so bad that one feels a coilover kit is necessary, then it’s the wrong car for that person.
If the car is so bad that one feels a coilover kit is necessary, then it’s the wrong car for that person.
Durzel said:
Hard to feel sympathy for that situation. If you want warranty service then don’t make major modifications to your car. I think its perfectly reasonable that Tesla don’t want to work on a third party coilover kit.
If the car is so bad that one feels a coilover kit is necessary, then it’s the wrong car for that person.
Can one swap in current MY suspension in place of the originals? Would that be noticed by Tesla during service?If the car is so bad that one feels a coilover kit is necessary, then it’s the wrong car for that person.
skwdenyer said:
Can one swap in current MY suspension in place of the originals? Would that be noticed by Tesla during service?
I imagine it’s certainly possible. I don’t think the suspension is controlled by the computer so the damping aspect of it is a function of the hardware.That being said - that assumes that there is no electronic interface to it at all (i.e. to detect failures etc), because I know from personal experience that various parts are paired to the car and it won’t tolerate a swap of different revisions without coding (e.g. you can’t put the matrix headlights in an older car and have them work at all, even though the connectors are the same)
dvshannow said:
David87 said:
wyson said:
An early Model Y out of Shanghai without the rear parcel shelf was without question the second worst riding car I have been in, apart from my mate’s lowered and slammed Ford Escort back in the day.
BMW M Sport suspension I’ve experienced in 1, 3 and 5 series on run flats had nothing on that early Model Y.
My wife has an OG Model Y. Superb car overall, but the ride is dog sBMW M Sport suspension I’ve experienced in 1, 3 and 5 series on run flats had nothing on that early Model Y.
Edited by wyson on Friday 17th March 14:16
t. We’re waiting on the updated Model X arriving (or maybe now the Kia EV9) as we need more space, but if we didn’t I’d swap the Y for a 2023 car with a better ride.Odd one / something to note:
Just reversed our MY up
To the horse box, (Towbar fitted obvs)
Watching on the camera as it nears and I would say about 2inches to go, and thunk!
Fortunately the bar made contact with the draw bar, not the bumper to draw bar, but the point / query is to say - the camera is not ‘Live’ and there is a minor delay.
Not good
Just reversed our MY up
To the horse box, (Towbar fitted obvs)
Watching on the camera as it nears and I would say about 2inches to go, and thunk!
Fortunately the bar made contact with the draw bar, not the bumper to draw bar, but the point / query is to say - the camera is not ‘Live’ and there is a minor delay.
Not good
PushedDover said:
Odd one / something to note:
Just reversed our MY up
To the horse box, (Towbar fitted obvs)
Watching on the camera as it nears and I would say about 2inches to go, and thunk!
Fortunately the bar made contact with the draw bar, not the bumper to draw bar, but the point / query is to say - the camera is not ‘Live’ and there is a minor delay.
Not good
That’s worrying if repeated across multiple examples. Anything the purports to show a real-time view as a driver aid damn well ought to deliver on that promise, IMHO.Just reversed our MY up
To the horse box, (Towbar fitted obvs)
Watching on the camera as it nears and I would say about 2inches to go, and thunk!
Fortunately the bar made contact with the draw bar, not the bumper to draw bar, but the point / query is to say - the camera is not ‘Live’ and there is a minor delay.
Not good
skwdenyer said:
PushedDover said:
Odd one / something to note:
Just reversed our MY up
To the horse box, (Towbar fitted obvs)
Watching on the camera as it nears and I would say about 2inches to go, and thunk!
Fortunately the bar made contact with the draw bar, not the bumper to draw bar, but the point / query is to say - the camera is not ‘Live’ and there is a minor delay.
Not good
That’s worrying if repeated across multiple examples. Anything the purports to show a real-time view as a driver aid damn well ought to deliver on that promise, IMHO.Just reversed our MY up
To the horse box, (Towbar fitted obvs)
Watching on the camera as it nears and I would say about 2inches to go, and thunk!
Fortunately the bar made contact with the draw bar, not the bumper to draw bar, but the point / query is to say - the camera is not ‘Live’ and there is a minor delay.
Not good
More interested to know about the horse box, must be over weight on a Model Y once horsey is inside?
LivLL said:
skwdenyer said:
PushedDover said:
Odd one / something to note:
Just reversed our MY up
To the horse box, (Towbar fitted obvs)
Watching on the camera as it nears and I would say about 2inches to go, and thunk!
Fortunately the bar made contact with the draw bar, not the bumper to draw bar, but the point / query is to say - the camera is not ‘Live’ and there is a minor delay.
Not good
That’s worrying if repeated across multiple examples. Anything the purports to show a real-time view as a driver aid damn well ought to deliver on that promise, IMHO.Just reversed our MY up
To the horse box, (Towbar fitted obvs)
Watching on the camera as it nears and I would say about 2inches to go, and thunk!
Fortunately the bar made contact with the draw bar, not the bumper to draw bar, but the point / query is to say - the camera is not ‘Live’ and there is a minor delay.
Not good
More interested to know about the horse box, must be over weight on a Model Y once horsey is inside?
I felt a bump whilst still seeing a gap on the screen between bar and draw.
The MY can take 1600kg IIRC.
A box is 1100kg.
We were a) using it to fetch some shaving the other day no problem.
b) yesterday was just to have the dobbing in an out at the yard, and I needed a towbar to stabilise the trailer.
We did drive him a mile up and down the lane - maybe 3 miles - no problems at all, but nothing over 35 / 40 mph.
skwdenyer said:
Can one swap in current MY suspension in place of the originals? Would that be noticed by Tesla during service?
You can ask to swap out the spings (might be dampers) for the revised ones which are a little softer. I've read people in the US have done this and just doing the rear suspension can make a positive difference (I think the cost is circa $600 and should keep yur warranty in tact as its just a later version of the same OEM part). The changes coming through on new cars also include stiffer top mounts but its hard to see what benefit that will bring to ride, although it might help with handling.No idea if this is why they changed the top mounts, but generally, the softer the suspension is, the stiffer the supporting structure and chassis have to be in order to have the same movement at the wheel.
I wonder if the new Gigacastings they used on the Y increased the stiffness of the chassis, allowing them to soften off the suspension?
Munro Live did a comparative teardown of early non Gigacast Model Y’s and new Gigacast Model Y’s. The underlying structure is really different.
I wonder if the new Gigacastings they used on the Y increased the stiffness of the chassis, allowing them to soften off the suspension?
Munro Live did a comparative teardown of early non Gigacast Model Y’s and new Gigacast Model Y’s. The underlying structure is really different.
Edited by wyson on Monday 20th March 19:07
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