Model 3 UK orders.

Model 3 UK orders.

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jamoor

14,506 posts

215 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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ZesPak said:
What were you doing that you let the car brake from 60 to 20 without you intervening?
What can you do if the car decides to brake very sharply? What would you do in that situation to stop it braking sharply? Stop it before it happens?

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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You would ideally be resting foot on accelerator and some pressure would override

Heres Johnny

7,229 posts

124 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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Most people would drive with their foot hovering over the brake to avert a disaster, is it right that the better bet is to hover over the accelerator to override phantom braking? Don’t be daft.

Dave Hedgehog

14,555 posts

204 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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jamoor said:
ZesPak said:
What were you doing that you let the car brake from 60 to 20 without you intervening?
What can you do if the car decides to brake very sharply? What would you do in that situation to stop it braking sharply? Stop it before it happens?
There is nothing you can do if the car decides to emergency stop when everything on the road looks perfectly fine and you are totally not expecting it to happen

By the time you realise what’s happening and figure out how stop autopilot and move your hands or feet a couple of seconds will have passed and you will be doing 20 or less, all whilst the car is decelerating at over 1g

FurtiveFreddy

8,577 posts

237 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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SWoll said:
I'm assuming the change is down to a lack of M3P wheels and overstock of gray turbine wheels from the Model S?
Model S rims use a different PCD.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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Heres Johnny said:
Most people would drive with their foot hovering over the brake to avert a disaster, is it right that the better bet is to hover over the accelerator to override phantom braking? Don’t be daft.
Where does any driver keep their right foot whilst cruising in any AP viable scenario? Usually on the accelerator. So it's no different. In an emergency there is a quick switch to the brake.

If there was real expectation of danger, then presumably you would disengage AP altogether. I wouldn't hover the brake. I'd just disengage .

Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 19th October 19:35

Durzel

12,272 posts

168 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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I'd be surprised if the car wasn't fully drive-by-wire, so hovering over the accelerator might make no difference at all.

FurtiveFreddy

8,577 posts

237 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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I've been experimenting with TACC (I don't have FSD) and find it a good idea to keep my foot over the accelerator when there's someone following for the reasons given.

It works quite well in normal motorway traffic, but in a 50 limited roadworks section like the M4 around Reading, it's just too sensitive to other vehicles being in close proximity. It's useful when it's working well, but unless it improves dramatically I'll probably just stop using it.

AEB has kicked in once when it wasn't needed and that's a bit too sensitive as well IMO.

FurtiveFreddy

8,577 posts

237 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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Gandahar said:
https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-model-3-track-mode...

Offering Michelin Cup tyres for it to. I'd recommend not going for these on the road in the UK, the Michelin 4S is already pretty far down the sporting track already for our UK weather.

This is a nice summary between the 4, the 4S and Cup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMv64liOqIE

Note that was done in warm conditions, when it gets cold ( and cold and wet ) then the more sporty Michelin tyres fall off a cliff, or you end up in a nettle patch in my case. Note that Goodyears new range is getting good reviews too. Also an old timer, Yokohama V105 is also good in cold and wet still, unlike the old days.
Given that it's a 'track pack' I'm not sure many would choose to put the Cup2s on just for road use.

One big advantage of running the Cup2 over the 4S on a Model 3 is the increased life you'll get out of the shoulders. Those tracking their P3D will find out quickly that unless they want to spend a lot on uprated suspension and adjustable arms, this will be a limiting factor for them unless they are OK chucking out a nearly new set of tyres when the shoulders are worn through.

If it were me, I'd just change to my spare set of wheels with Cup2s the day before a track day and drive them to and from the circuit, assuming the weather looked reasonably good.

hixster

354 posts

217 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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How long have you guys been waiting to get introduction email / comms from Tesla for your order?

My paperwork for purchasing was completed with leasing company 3rd October and I’ve haven’t heard anything from Tesla yet?

TimoMak

255 posts

55 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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How does the cold weather, using full heater (yes to clear the windows and keep warm I’m not just using seat warmers) whilst stuck in a massive queue, after say 40 miles full power on the motorway affect range? Interested in “real world” experience of worst case non EV friendly conditions. Thanks.

gangzoom

Original Poster:

6,303 posts

215 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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Cold and traffic jams don't kill range that much, its the rain/wind that kills range.

I've just asked this question on the Model 3 forum since the range on our 75D X drops to about 150 miles in heavy rain.

Looks like LR AWD Model 3 has a range of about 200 miles in similar conditions.

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/model-3-ra...

Zcd1

451 posts

55 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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gangzoom said:
...Looks like LR AWD Model 3 has a range of about 200 miles in similar conditions...
Yes, 210-220 miles is what I've experienced in cold temps at highway speeds.

hixster

354 posts

217 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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hixster said:
How long have you guys been waiting to get introduction email / comms from Tesla for your order?

My paperwork for purchasing was completed with leasing company 3rd October and I’ve haven’t heard anything from Tesla yet?
Anyone?

Heres Johnny

7,229 posts

124 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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hixster said:
Anyone?
Knowing Tesla it can be anything from 10 mins to they’ve forgotten you.

hixster

354 posts

217 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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Heres Johnny said:
Knowing Tesla it can be anything from 10 mins to they’ve forgotten you.
From experience - How long did yours take?

Heres Johnny

7,229 posts

124 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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hixster said:
Heres Johnny said:
Knowing Tesla it can be anything from 10 mins to they’ve forgotten you.
From experience - How long did yours take?
M6 last one was 3 years ago. Based on referrals if the car was inventory you can get everything done from buying to delivery in 3 days. But plenty of reports of people like yourself where nothing seems to happen for weeks

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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Anyone had the battery capacity nerf yet? Interested how your downgrade compares to Bjorn's.

SWoll

18,397 posts

258 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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kuro68k said:
Anyone had the battery capacity nerf yet? Interested how your downgrade compares to Bjorn's.
Nothing to do with battery capacity from what I've read. Basically a case of Tesla updating the calculation for estimated range, plenty of owners have seen it creep back up close to original figure after a few trips anyway.

Bjorn has done a video admitting he jumped to a conclusion and doesn't actually know what is going on, so now he's got 2 videos getting plenty of clicks. wink

ZesPak

24,430 posts

196 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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Could be just more accurate consumption. I think it already takes a lot into account at this point (temp, elevation, traffic,...), but could just be tweaked to be more accurate.