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Otispunkmeyer said:
M1C said:
That Honda E interior is fantastic!
Blatantly retro and all the better for it! (albeit mixed with new tech!)
Yep, that interior is bBlatantly retro and all the better for it! (albeit mixed with new tech!)
hin' Love it.
I was not sold on the wood in the M3 and considered buying a carbon cap for it, but its starting to grow on me so that its tolerable, I am sick to death of piano black and its show every fingerprint and mark finish ...
FurtiveFreddy said:
Gandahar said:
What about steering feel, I doubt it will match an Elise for that or balence, though I have only driven the Elise ..
Pros and cons to all cars, Tesla does make people bipolar as mentioned above. The good thing is we are discussing it and it drums up interest in EVs . I'm never going to buy one but I enjoy reading about people's experiences on here.
The Model 3 isn't in the same class as an Elise, nor a Caterham as mentioned previously. Why make pointless comparisons?Pros and cons to all cars, Tesla does make people bipolar as mentioned above. The good thing is we are discussing it and it drums up interest in EVs . I'm never going to buy one but I enjoy reading about people's experiences on here.
If you want to compare it with a car in its class (3-series, A4, C-Class) then the steering still may not be to your liking but it's certainly good enough to be enjoyable if you like a 'spirited drive'.
As for mapping, yes I could also fiddle about with the JB4 on my 335 all day but it's still not going to be as quick and responsive as my Model 3, which is why I really don't have any desire to drive it these days (much to my surprise, TBH).
You should try driving one. You might understand then what the fuss is all about.
TX.
FurtiveFreddy said:
Terminator X said:
Other than in the EV forum there doesn't actually seem to be much of a fuss going on?
TX.
Why are you here then? Just to troll?TX.
FF
Plenty of fuss, they're just choosing to ignore it for as long as they can in GG.
Dave Hedgehog said:
I like the honda interior a lot
I was not sold on the wood in the M3 and considered buying a carbon cap for it, but its starting to grow on me so that its tolerable, I am sick to death of piano black and its show every fingerprint and mark finish ...
Yep, don't know what this obsession is with piano black. It seems to have overtaken all brands and always with the same results (scratches, fingerprints)I was not sold on the wood in the M3 and considered buying a carbon cap for it, but its starting to grow on me so that its tolerable, I am sick to death of piano black and its show every fingerprint and mark finish ...
That Honda interior is a horrible mess though. Looks like it was designed by committee.
Edited by SWoll on Thursday 24th October 14:18
Heres Johnny said:
You mean the permanent magnet motor?]
Nope, I meant this: https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/road-tests/a...
SWoll said:
That Honda interior is a horrible mess though. Looks like it was designed by committee.
its modern and retro at the same time, reminds me of some of the old bangers i used to drive an eon ago, but is still full of tech, like someone glued ipads to the top of an allegro dash SWoll said:
Harrods. 
Seriously though is the perceived quality of interior plastics really what makes you 'love' a car anyway? Some of my favourite cars I've owned over the years have had awful interiors.
This thread just goes to show the average PHer prefers a Passat or Audi A3 over a Caterham, TVR or Corvette. Seriously though is the perceived quality of interior plastics really what makes you 'love' a car anyway? Some of my favourite cars I've owned over the years have had awful interiors.
A 50k Audi A4 with barely 200hp is acceptable, but a 50k car with a "lesser" interiour is not done, despite the 0-60 in about 4 secs. Goes to show where most people's priorities are.
Every car is a compromise, but a lot on here will evidently never make the compromise on perceived quality of the interiour plastics.
Edited by ZesPak on Thursday 24th October 15:24
ZesPak said:
SWoll said:
Harrods.
Seriously though is the perceived quality of interior plastics really what makes you 'love' a car anyway? Some of my favourite cars I've owned over the years have had awful interiors.
This thread just goes to show the average PHer prefers a Passat or Audi A3 over a Caterham, TVR or Corvette. Seriously though is the perceived quality of interior plastics really what makes you 'love' a car anyway? Some of my favourite cars I've owned over the years have had awful interiors.
A 50k Audi A4 with barely 200hp is acceptable, but a 50k car with a "lesser" interiour is not done, despite the 0-60 in about 4 secs. Goes to show where most people's priorities are.
Every car is a compromise, but a lot on here will evidently never make the compromise on perceived quality of the interiour plastics.
Edited by ZesPak on Thursday 24th October 15:24
Do folk really fondle their interiors so often that it becomes a relevant purchasing influencer?
SWoll said:
FurtiveFreddy said:
Terminator X said:
Other than in the EV forum there doesn't actually seem to be much of a fuss going on?
TX.
Why are you here then? Just to troll?TX.
FF
Plenty of fuss, they're just choosing to ignore it for as long as they can in GG.
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Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 24th October 14:18
Zcd1 said:
Heres Johnny said:
You mean the permanent magnet motor?]
Nope, I meant this: https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/road-tests/a...
Thats a stability control difference in software. Battery connected to an electric motor connected to wheels - thats drive train.
I thought you were going to educate us all with something we didn't know, sadly not.
Just to add.. from the article you posted
"A 1.5-mile course with six right turns and a single left, it's a fast, flowing"
"After three or four laps at absolute tire-torturing full speed, the car begins to reduce power output"
So... I make that 5 or 6 miles and then even track mode is cooked.
The ring is 14 miles - so a M3 can manage just over 1/3 of a lap. The model S Plaid they're running does seem to manage to complete a lap most of the time,
Edited by Heres Johnny on Thursday 24th October 16:57
Heres Johnny said:
Thats not a drive train difference
Pedantic much??Also from the article: " after roughly three full-speed, perfect laps, the car would gradually start pulling power, hitting equilibrium at a pace about two to three seconds off the absolute quickest lap times the car is capable of."
So, no, it doesn't fall on its face like the Model S you referenced. That's a big differentiator.
Also from the article: "... What they've created along with the entire Tesla team is the world's first electric sport sedan with bona fide race track chops."
Edited by Zcd1 on Thursday 24th October 17:22
Zcd1 said:
Seems you don't know much about the differences between the Model 3's powertrain and the Model S's. Do us all a favor and educate yourself before commenting further.
Zcd1 said:
Heres Johnny said:
Thats not a drive train difference
Pedantic much??I'd even agree that a rear wheel drive only battery EV has a different power train to a AWD drive EV
But to suggest I a M3 and and MS have sufficiently different power trains to be worthy of comment and to suggest someone should educate themselves as they were suffficiently different, which is what you did.. come on... give us all a break.
Heres Johnny said:
...But to suggest I a M3 and and MS have sufficiently different power trains to be worthy of comment and to suggest someone should educate themselves...
When you specifically said that because a Model S can't sustain its performance under heavy use, the Model 3 can't either, that shows you don't (or now maybe didn't) know what you're talking about, which is why I pointed out the difference.Zcd1 said:
Heres Johnny said:
...But to suggest I a M3 and and MS have sufficiently different power trains to be worthy of comment and to suggest someone should educate themselves...
When you specifically said that because a Model S can't sustain its performance under heavy use, the Model 3 can't either, that shows you don't (or now maybe didn't) know what you're talking about, which is why I pointed out the difference.Heres Johnny said:
Thats not a drive train difference
Thats a stability control difference in software. Battery connected to an electric motor connected to wheels - thats drive train.
I thought you were going to educate us all with something we didn't know, sadly not.
Just to add.. from the article you posted
"A 1.5-mile course with six right turns and a single left, it's a fast, flowing"
"After three or four laps at absolute tire-torturing full speed, the car begins to reduce power output"
So... I make that 5 or 6 miles and then even track mode is cooked.
Er, no. That piece was written over a year ago before track mode was even fully released.Thats a stability control difference in software. Battery connected to an electric motor connected to wheels - thats drive train.
I thought you were going to educate us all with something we didn't know, sadly not.
Just to add.. from the article you posted
"A 1.5-mile course with six right turns and a single left, it's a fast, flowing"
"After three or four laps at absolute tire-torturing full speed, the car begins to reduce power output"
So... I make that 5 or 6 miles and then even track mode is cooked.
Drive one on track yourself and then let us know how it does.
FurtiveFreddy said:
Er, no. That piece was written over a year ago before track mode was even fully released.
Drive one on track yourself and then let us know how it does.
Does that make it a different drive train or just a drive train that can withstand a little more track use? And let’s not forget that Tesla are taking the MS around the ring which was where this all started fromDrive one on track yourself and then let us know how it does.
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