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Smiljan said:
Nice partial quote, but at least you proved my point. You are blind to the notion there may be room for improvement. Crazy really that you are taken in so easily.
Now you're just being annoying. Where did I say the system was perfect?
In fact, none of the other manufacturers have actually improved on their systems since they sold a car. So there was never an accident with cruise control? Lane keep assist? Emergency braking?
Tesla has one of the most comprehensive systems on the road today, and seeing and experiencing the improvements made in v10 actually opens your eyes instead of making you blind.
I hope my next car manufacturer has as much dedication in making my vehicle better after I bought it from them. Last time Jaguar charged me 200 eur to update the ancient maps on their archaic system on a 1yo car. But at least it didn't have lane assist, so it was harder to kill myself in it while texting.
SWoll said:
I assume this is based in your extensive ownership experience of a Model 3 Performance? You wouldn't be daft enough to make a statement like that without having lived with one for a considerable period of time obviously as that would be ridiculous.
No doubt the TM3 owners wagging their finger at the RS4 have driven it extensively too?TX.
ZesPak said:
Now you're just being annoying.
Where did I say the system was perfect?
In fact, none of the other manufacturers have actually improved on their systems since they sold a car. So there was never an accident with cruise control? Lane keep assist? Emergency braking?
Tesla has one of the most comprehensive systems on the road today, and seeing and experiencing the improvements made in v10 actually opens your eyes instead of making you blind.
I hope my next car manufacturer has as much dedication in making my vehicle better after I bought it from them. Last time Jaguar charged me 200 eur to update the ancient maps on their archaic system on a 1yo car. But at least it didn't have lane assist, so it was harder to kill myself in it while texting.
It isn't "Free" though is it, presumably incl in the overhead element of the purchase price? Where did I say the system was perfect?
In fact, none of the other manufacturers have actually improved on their systems since they sold a car. So there was never an accident with cruise control? Lane keep assist? Emergency braking?
Tesla has one of the most comprehensive systems on the road today, and seeing and experiencing the improvements made in v10 actually opens your eyes instead of making you blind.
I hope my next car manufacturer has as much dedication in making my vehicle better after I bought it from them. Last time Jaguar charged me 200 eur to update the ancient maps on their archaic system on a 1yo car. But at least it didn't have lane assist, so it was harder to kill myself in it while texting.
TX.
Terminator X said:
SWoll said:
I assume this is based in your extensive ownership experience of a Model 3 Performance? You wouldn't be daft enough to make a statement like that without having lived with one for a considerable period of time obviously as that would be ridiculous.
No doubt the TM3 owners wagging their finger at the RS4 have driven it extensively too?TX.
You stated that other than 0-60 the RS4 is hugely better in all other areas. That's an opinion based on zero personal experience as far as I can tell and contradicts a number of the points above.
I don't doubt the RS4 is better built and the materials used are higher quality but then as it costs at least £10k more than the Model 3 P before adding options that should be expected I'd suggest?
Ollie1991EV said:
Sorry I know I should read the whole thread but it's incredibly long.
Anyone know the wait time on the model 3 in the UK? Walk past one EVERY morning and it's killing me.
If you want an LR there are a few in stock for immediate delivery.Anyone know the wait time on the model 3 in the UK? Walk past one EVERY morning and it's killing me.
https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/inventory/new/m3?arran...
Currently estimated delivery for a specific orders is December for LR or Performance models and February for an SR+
Model 3 just won the mid size golden wheel in Germany against the audi and BMW with the highest score of any car.
I don't know if people who dislike the interior have spent much time in one but it's a very nice place to be, clean and spacious, yes it's different to the overly busy cockpit stuff most of the Germans do but it's very well done.
I don't know if people who dislike the interior have spent much time in one but it's a very nice place to be, clean and spacious, yes it's different to the overly busy cockpit stuff most of the Germans do but it's very well done.
SWoll said:
I've seen comments saying the M3P is quicker, better equipped, costs less to buy and is cheaper to run. Are you arguing that any of those comments aren't fact?
You stated that other than 0-60 the RS4 is hugely better in all other areas. That's an opinion based on zero personal experience as far as I can tell and contradicts a number of the points above.
I don't doubt the RS4 is better built and the materials used are higher quality but then as it costs at least £10k more than the Model 3 P before adding options that should be expected I'd suggest?
Is that based on extensive testing of the RS4 though as per your comment?You stated that other than 0-60 the RS4 is hugely better in all other areas. That's an opinion based on zero personal experience as far as I can tell and contradicts a number of the points above.
I don't doubt the RS4 is better built and the materials used are higher quality but then as it costs at least £10k more than the Model 3 P before adding options that should be expected I'd suggest?
TX.
Terminator X said:
SWoll said:
I've seen comments saying the M3P is quicker, better equipped, costs less to buy and is cheaper to run. Are you arguing that any of those comments aren't fact?
You stated that other than 0-60 the RS4 is hugely better in all other areas. That's an opinion based on zero personal experience as far as I can tell and contradicts a number of the points above.
I don't doubt the RS4 is better built and the materials used are higher quality but then as it costs at least £10k more than the Model 3 P before adding options that should be expected I'd suggest?
Is that based on extensive testing of the RS4 though as per your comment?You stated that other than 0-60 the RS4 is hugely better in all other areas. That's an opinion based on zero personal experience as far as I can tell and contradicts a number of the points above.
I don't doubt the RS4 is better built and the materials used are higher quality but then as it costs at least £10k more than the Model 3 P before adding options that should be expected I'd suggest?
TX.
I have run numerous Audi's though, the last being a 2017 A6 up until March this year so appreciate the quality of the build and materials is very good.
FurtiveFreddy said:
Gandahar said:
Is the power increase noticable? I guess nobody has a vbox or draggy on one to do before and after?I have a vbox, I could have lent it to Dave H as he lives locally if I had known.
Yes, I've done it with a Vbox and the times are very slightly faster 0-60 with my P3D+. Less than a tenth quicker. Reports are suggesting the increased power is only really noticable above 50mph or so.0-100 and 1/4 mile times could be up to half a second quicker by all accounts.
Out of interest how does a download make a car quicker?
he cancelled!!!Smiljan said:
Still this chap is happy, so happy he baked his Tesla a birthday cake
Absolutely stark raving nuts, I'm sure if his Tesla had an exhaust pipe he'd be locked up by now
Can't argue Tesla owners aren't passionate about the brand.
Poor effort compared to thisAbsolutely stark raving nuts, I'm sure if his Tesla had an exhaust pipe he'd be locked up by now
Can't argue Tesla owners aren't passionate about the brand.
|https://thumbsnap.com/5pCeKq0T[/url]Having said that my wife bought me a life size birthday cake of my superchippped 1.4 D4D Yaris 5 years back for my birthday and we are still eating it. Due to the thickness of icing sugar it might be more resilient to the elements than the actual car.
And no, I'm not going to be showing a tin of Birds Custard powder on top of it before you ask.
Edited by Gandahar on Thursday 14th November 18:32
Gandahar said:
Thanks, yeah I saw a sub 3s shown on Dragtimes but that is not usual testing and the bloke doing it is not completely neutral.
Out of interest how does a download make a car quicker?
The sub-3 sec runs are with roll out, so not the sort of result I'm interested in, but the result was valid in that it's a comparison of before and after done in relatively controlled conditions and shows where the gains are in the upgrade.Out of interest how does a download make a car quicker?
Few people know the ins and outs of timing and how to accurately measure acceleration runs and it's often a waste of time trying to explain it to them as they just want to see the lowest number regardless of how it's been obtained.
I've no idea what you're trying to get at with your question, so I won't comment on that.
SWoll said:
Terminator X said:
SWoll said:
I assume this is based in your extensive ownership experience of a Model 3 Performance? You wouldn't be daft enough to make a statement like that without having lived with one for a considerable period of time obviously as that would be ridiculous.
No doubt the TM3 owners wagging their finger at the RS4 have driven it extensively too?TX.
You stated that other than 0-60 the RS4 is hugely better in all other areas. That's an opinion based on zero personal experience as far as I can tell and contradicts a number of the points above.
I don't doubt the RS4 is better built and the materials used are higher quality but then as it costs at least £10k more than the Model 3 P before adding options that should be expected I'd suggest?
and still have £5k in hand......
RobDickinson said:
Gandahar said:
Out of interest how does a download make a car quicker?
Changes to how the invertor and motors work making them more efficient. The great thing about the move to EV is you get to learn some new stuff
It will be blindingly obvious to the next generation of course !FurtiveFreddy said:
Gandahar said:
Thanks, yeah I saw a sub 3s shown on Dragtimes but that is not usual testing and the bloke doing it is not completely neutral.
Out of interest how does a download make a car quicker?
The sub-3 sec runs are with roll out, so not the sort of result I'm interested in, but the result was valid in that it's a comparison of before and after done in relatively controlled conditions and shows where the gains are in the upgrade.Out of interest how does a download make a car quicker?
Few people know the ins and outs of timing and how to accurately measure acceleration runs and it's often a waste of time trying to explain it to them as they just want to see the lowest number regardless of how it's been obtained.
I've no idea what you're trying to get at with your question, so I won't comment on that.
Gandahar said:
Thanks. Looks like a real life run of say 40-60mph, as if you were stuck behind a slow moving caravan would be a good test. No traction issues etc. Also a top end say 80 to 100 if you were moving out into the outside lane of the motorway with someone coming up fast behindf. Both better real day scenarios.
50-70 times are now around 1.6 secs and 60-90 is 3.2 secs (both for the Model 3 Performance).I've not compared those to other ICE cars, but it certainly feels good where I'm sitting and with no gear changes at any point and instant torque, it makes overtakes and moves into gaps a doddle.
Gandahar said:
SWoll said:
Terminator X said:
SWoll said:
I assume this is based in your extensive ownership experience of a Model 3 Performance? You wouldn't be daft enough to make a statement like that without having lived with one for a considerable period of time obviously as that would be ridiculous.
No doubt the TM3 owners wagging their finger at the RS4 have driven it extensively too?TX.
You stated that other than 0-60 the RS4 is hugely better in all other areas. That's an opinion based on zero personal experience as far as I can tell and contradicts a number of the points above.
I don't doubt the RS4 is better built and the materials used are higher quality but then as it costs at least £10k more than the Model 3 P before adding options that should be expected I'd suggest?
and still have £5k in hand......
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