Model 3 UK orders.

[FurtiveFreddy]

Heres Johnny said:

$5.5k for a set of wheels and different brake pads? And the flick a switch software.

They do love a good story saying the brakes are uprated, technically they are I guess, but I suspect people might have expected something more than a set of pads, maybe bigger calipers and something better than Dot 3 brake fluid for better higher temperatures performance. At last we can talk true Pistonhead speak...

For most tracks, a pad/fluid upgrade will be sufficient. The DOT3 brake fluid photo is obviously just a stock shot.

A lot of internet warriors are spouting all sorts of nonsense regarding what the M3P can or cannot do based on no experience of driving one on track themselves.

[Dave Hedgehog]

CallMeLegend said:

Heres Johnny said:

$5.5k for a set of wheels and different brake pads? And the flick a switch software.

People are buying them, so I'd say that's good marketing!

presumably there will be no warranty arguments which is peace of mind for some people

its a factory option now so presumably it should not affect insurance either

worth the extra money if both are correct IMO


the software 'switch' is free and all M3P with the original performance/track pack upgrade (most UK cars) will get it

[Fishlegs]

rjg48 said:

CallMeLegend said:

People are buying them

People who like nice things, and are early adopters of nice things, don't always care if the nice thing is a bit more expensive than the other not-so-nice things they could have had instead. It doesn't make them a mug.

[jjwilde]

rjg48 said:

People buying car which can smash a BMW M3 on the track are 'mugs'.

[p1stonhead]

jjwilde said:

rjg48 said:

People buying car which can smash a BMW M3 on the track are 'mugs'.

How do you define ‘smash’?

And I presume you mean one lap of a track or a part of one lap?

How many laps will a battery car last?

There’s a reason people don’t race Tesla’s, it would be a very quick event.

[ZesPak]

p1stonhead said:

There’s a reason people don’t race Tesla’s, it would be a very quick event.

It would be short too!

[jjwilde]

p1stonhead said:

How do you define ‘smash’?

And I presume you mean one lap of a track or a part of one lap?

How many laps will a battery car last?

There’s a reason people don’t race Tesla’s, it would be a very quick event.

I'm curious, how many laps do you think an Tesla M3 performance would do?

[p1stonhead]

jjwilde said:

p1stonhead said:

How do you define ‘smash’?

And I presume you mean one lap of a track or a part of one lap?

How many laps will a battery car last?

There’s a reason people don’t race Tesla’s, it would be a very quick event.

I'm curious, how many laps do you think an Tesla M3 performance would do?

Which track?

Around 100ish miles of range with the throttle pinned to the floor about right?

So maybe realistically 3 or 4 laps of the ring?

There is a video online showing a model 3 performance at castle combe going from 250 mile range to empty in 30 minutes.

[MOBB]

I'd say thats about right

What would a comparable M3/RS4/C63 do in similar circumstances? 150?

Big difference is you can fuel up at tracks days, you'd need proper heavyweight chargers at tracks for EV's to work there imo.

I'm not convinced that an EV should be on a track anyway, where's the drama of revs/gear changes etc? Quick for sure but fun?

I've got a Tesla and love it, before anyone pounces on me!

[p1stonhead]

MOBB said:

I'd say thats about right

What would a comparable M3/RS4/C63 do in similar circumstances? 150?

Big difference is you can fuel up at tracks days, you'd need proper heavyweight chargers at tracks for EV's to work there imo.

I'm not convinced that an EV should be on a track anyway, where's the drama of revs/gear changes etc? Quick for sure but fun?

I've got a Tesla and love it, before anyone pounces on me!

Pretty much my view.

It may be good on a track but for an extremely limited amount of time which means it’s a pointless comparison.

It doesn’t ‘smash’ and M3.

You can’t race a Tesla or even have a track ‘day’.

You can have a 30 min track session then get towed home....

[ZesPak]

p1stonhead said:

You can have a 30 min track session then get towed home....

Or you have a quick charger at the track, just as you'd have petrol now?

[p1stonhead]

ZesPak said:

p1stonhead said:

You can have a 30 min track session then get towed home....

Or you have a quick charger at the track, just as you'd have petrol now?

How quick?

Like filling a race car with petrol in 60 seconds quick?

[Dave Hedgehog]

p1stonhead said:

How quick?

Like filling a race car with petrol in 60 seconds quick?

i would typically run 3 - 4 sessions on a track day with a break between them so 30-40 minutes to rapid charge would be ok

i physically could not drive for 4+ hours straight on track, i dont think the tyres and brakes on most cars would take it either, let alone the cost at 8mpg

[p1stonhead]

Dave Hedgehog said:

p1stonhead said:

How quick?

Like filling a race car with petrol in 60 seconds quick?

i would typically run 3 - 4 sessions on a track day with a break between them so 30-40 minutes to rapid charge would be ok

i physically could not drive for 4+ hours straight on track, i dont think the tyres and brakes on most cars would take it either, let alone the cost at 8mpg

To be fair I was mostly talking about racing. Not trackdays.

‘Smashing’ another car on track isn’t really relevant unless racing is it.

Trackdays aren’t a competition.

[Dave Hedgehog]

p1stonhead said:

To be fair I was mostly talking about racing. Not trackdays.

‘Smashing’ another car on track isn’t really relevant unless racing is it.

Trackdays aren’t a competition.

very true

in a professional race series current EV tech will not work for endurance racing, its perfect for rally cross thou

[Zcd1]

p1stonhead said:

...You can’t race a Tesla or even have a track ‘day’...

You can absolutely have a track day, and owners do so regularly. Charging is required at some point, and you're not gonna be able to do every session in a typical HPDE, but the Model 3P is absolutely trackable - and will be even moreso with the new V2 Track Mode software.

Many tracks have RV sites as well, which means 240V circuits, which means charging at the track is feasible.

As far as "racing", nobody actually "races" street cars on racetracks anyway, so that point is utterly moot.

[Kolbenkopp]

Heres Johnny said:

$5.5k for a set of wheels and different brake pads? And the flick a switch software.

Give that budget, I suppose most on here could do better buying "à la carte" with their favourite parts place. But convenience / bragging rights is something the established makers make a pretty penny on. Good to see Tesla catch up. The Michelins aren't too shabby either.

Now I just wish one could delete the glass roof, get a nice black headlining and a factory chrome delete. The inner goth can't stand all of that m3 airiness . These kind of things are so obvious as money maker, they really must be busy with other stuff or can't handle the resulting variants. Basically their production model holding them back?

BTW, has anyone ever figured out if the calipers on the cars are shared with any existing car?

[RobDickinson]

Surprised no one has done a drop in cf panel for the roof glass

[jjwilde]

p1stonhead said:

How quick?

Like filling a race car with petrol in 60 seconds quick?

Well there isn't a petrol station in the ring. You have to leave and go refuel at one of the near by garages.

However, there are Tesla superchargers at the ring.

So I'm thinking the refuelling time is going to be at least similar...

Oh and the Tesla range and charging speed can only get better as we go on, like the 600mile range Roadster 2.

Edited by jjwilde on Tuesday 3rd March 18:32

[Heres Johnny]

Kolbenkopp said:

Give that budget, I suppose most on here could do better buying "à la carte" with their favourite parts place. But convenience / bragging rights is something the established makers make a pretty penny on. Good to see Tesla catch up. The Michelins aren't too shabby either.

Now I just wish one could delete the glass roof, get a nice black headlining and a factory chrome delete. The inner goth can't stand all of that m3 airiness . These kind of things are so obvious as money maker, they really must be busy with other stuff or can't handle the resulting variants. Basically their production model holding them back?

BTW, has anyone ever figured out if the calipers on the cars are shared with any existing car?

I wouldn’t be surprised if you have to buy the Tesla stuff for the software option to be unlocked.