Model 3 UK orders.

[RobDickinson]

The higher end cars get Spotify etc but on the sr+ you don't, leaves you with just USB/bt audio really, not good enough for 2019

[SWoll]

Do the Model S/X get CP/AA or is it a general Tesla thing not to include it?

[Durzel]

Dumb question but can CarPlay / Android Auto be added in a firmware update or does it require hardware?

[Dave Hedgehog]

Durzel said:

Dumb question but can CarPlay / Android Auto be added in a firmware update or does it require hardware?

Technically it should be possible to do it in software, it runs google maps so I doubt they have some exotic home grown OS

The problem I suspect is musk can be a bit of an arrogant knobber,’I know what’s best’

Daft really when there are a few billion iOS and Android users

[Dave Hedgehog]

SWoll said:

The EV instant go thing is addictive isn't it?

The base model should be considerably slower than your A45 according to the numbers but the sensation of speed in an EV is a different thing entirely.

I think the mapping and audio connectivity is improved on the LR/P models with the premium interior but not sure by how much, the lack of CarPlay/Android Auto is a shame though I agree.

Problem is the best times are based on being stationary and messing about putting the car into launch mode

If your cruising around you then have to wait for kick down, the ecu to wake up out of eco mode and the turbo to spool

If I was in race mode then no there’s probably not as much in it but then I would get 15mpg , not ideal with vpower at £1.45 a litre

Edited by Dave Hedgehog on Friday 26th July 19:47

[RobDickinson]

Dave Hedgehog said:

Technically it should be possible to do it in software, it runs google maps so I doubt they have some exotic home grown OS

The problem I suspect is musk can be a bit of an arrogant knobber,’I know what’s best’

Daft really when there are a few billion iOS and Android users

Carplay would be tricky, you've got to deal with apple and they want it certified before the car is released etc.

I don't think there's any issue with adding android auto later but I can't see it happening any time soon

[Dave Hedgehog]

RobDickinson said:

Carplay would be tricky, you've got to deal with apple and they want it certified before the car is released etc.

I don't think there's any issue with adding android auto later but I can't see it happening any time soon

Yeah apple are pretty strict about security and what you do with the users data

If I recall bmw won’t use android auto because google want lots of telemetry from the car which they won’t let them have

[anonymous-user]

The father in law is tempted by one of these, which is good as it gives me close experience. Is there any deals I should look to push him towards. I reckon he does about 10k per year.

[SWoll]

euphoricmess said:

The father in law is tempted by one of these, which is good as it gives me close experience. Is there any deals I should look to push him towards. I reckon he does about 10k per year.

What model would he be after and is he looking to own the car?

I've not seen a PCH deal that can match what EVezy are offering when you consider the lack of commitment, inclusion of insurance and free public charging and 12k miles per year allowance.

If he wants to own the car of course then PCP direct via Tesla is probably the best route.

[anonymous-user]

SWoll said:

What model would he be after and is he looking to own the car?

I've not seen a PCH deal that can match what EVezy are offering when you consider the lack of commitment, inclusion of insurance and free public charging and 12k miles per year allowance.

If he wants to own the car of course then PCP direct via Tesla is probably the best route.

I would imagine he would go for the base 3. The EVezy will be a tough sell, with the lack of commitment being seen as a risk to him rather than the other way round.

Been trying to research things like service cost and intervals?

[RobDickinson]

euphoricmess said:

Been trying to research things like service cost and intervals?

There isnt really

Check brake fluid every 2 years and replace when needed, change cabin air filter.

[SWoll]

euphoricmess said:

SWoll said:

What model would he be after and is he looking to own the car?

I've not seen a PCH deal that can match what EVezy are offering when you consider the lack of commitment, inclusion of insurance and free public charging and 12k miles per year allowance.

If he wants to own the car of course then PCP direct via Tesla is probably the best route.

I would imagine he would go for the base 3. The EVezy will be a tough sell, with the lack of commitment being seen as a risk to him rather than the other way round.

You'll need to explain that one to me. He'd rather pay more and commit to doing so for 2-3 years instead as that's less risky for him? If it's his first EV how does he know he'll even like it or that it'll suit him?

[Dave Hedgehog]

euphoricmess said:

The father in law is tempted by one of these, which is good as it gives me close experience. Is there any deals I should look to push him towards. I reckon he does about 10k per year.

Watch the insurance, my quotes have been 2.5 times that of my a45

I have been looking at 3/35 lease deals for the m3 performance, the best I have found is £600 a month

However I can also get an iPace for £600 a month which is a far more expensive car

[Dave Hedgehog]

Dave Hedgehog said:

Watch the insurance, my quotes have been 2.5 times that of my a45

Well it looks like most of the insurance companies do not have model 3's in their database and the stock car they list is an imported LHD performance which is doubling the cost

Direct line do have them and only want £10 a year more than my A45 costs to insure a long range Model 3

[anonymous-user]

SWoll said:

You'll need to explain that one to me. He'd rather pay more and commit to doing so for 2-3 years instead as that's less risky for him? If it's his first EV how does he know he'll even like it or that it'll suit him?

It's based on what he is used to. He's bought cars on PCP for years and is used to the experience of "owning them" and being in control of what happens. He can buy it, give back or part ex. It's essentially his. I've talked him towards leasing if cheaper as the way he has done his last few pcps have followed the same pattern as a lease. Give back or part ex at pretty much what he owes.

So he'd be worried the company could end it early on him.

As regards as to whether he will like it, it's a fair question. It's what holds me off one and has me happy for him to gamble

[SWoll]

euphoricmess said:

SWoll said:

You'll need to explain that one to me. He'd rather pay more and commit to doing so for 2-3 years instead as that's less risky for him? If it's his first EV how does he know he'll even like it or that it'll suit him?

It's based on what he is used to. He's bought cars on PCP for years and is used to the experience of "owning them" and being in control of what happens. He can buy it, give back or part ex. It's essentially his. I've talked him towards leasing if cheaper as the way he has done his last few pcps have followed the same pattern as a lease. Give back or part ex at pretty much what he owes.

So he'd be worried the company could end it early on him.

As regards as to whether he will like it, it's a fair question. It's what holds me off one and has me happy for him to gamble

That's a hell of a gamble if committing to a 3 year PCP deal with a minimum of £4k up front? Running an EV is a very different proposition to ICE and won't suit everyone.

I'd seriously recommend EVEzy at least for a month or two. Won't cost him any more than a PCH/PCP with everything included for the price and he can then decide what he wants to do from there with no financial risk?

If he goes PCP and decides after 2 months it's not for him he'll be £5k+ down and owe a lot more than that to get out of the deal.

[Witchfinder]

Dave Hedgehog said:

Watch the insurance, my quotes have been 2.5 times that of my a45

Where did you get your quotes? Compare the Market and Confused don't list the Model 3.

[Dave Hedgehog]

Witchfinder said:

Dave Hedgehog said:

Watch the insurance, my quotes have been 2.5 times that of my a45

Where did you get your quotes? Compare the Market and Confused don't list the Model 3.

Meerkats and go compare listed a LHD M3 performance for me, but it makes the price wrong

My insurance said they quote ot as a model s 75 till the proper cars are on the database

[Dave Hedgehog]

Witchfinder said:

Dave Hedgehog said:

Watch the insurance, my quotes have been 2.5 times that of my a45

Where did you get your quotes? Compare the Market and Confused don't list the Model 3.

i forget that DL are scammaz, my fault for looking at the headline figure and not scrolling down (used to having excess, prot NC requirements saved in meerkats profile) so missed the 1k excess and no other options ticked.

once selected the quote was once again double my A45 at 1k pa .....

[Durzel]

I don't think for that level of performance ~£1k premiums are that unreasonable. 3.1s 0-60 is supercar territory.