Model 3 UK orders.

[Witchfinder]

Perhaps you can point out the flaws in the test? It looks pretty reasonable.
https://www.whatcar.com/news/what-car-real-range-h...

[RobDickinson]

Witchfinder said:

Your link returns a 404

fixed

[FurtiveFreddy]

Witchfinder said:

Perhaps you can point out the flaws in the test? It looks pretty reasonable.
https://www.whatcar.com/news/what-car-real-range-h...

They are driving a 20 mile route and using the power consumption on that short drive to work out the expected total range.
That might be an accurate enough method for EVs with a small battery but for long range cars the potential for error is quite large.
It's like timing how long it takes your phone to go from 100% to 95% charge and then multiplying that figure by 20 to see when the battery will go flat.

[gangzoom]

Witchfinder said:

Perhaps you can point out the flaws in the test? It looks pretty reasonable.
https://www.whatcar.com/news/what-car-real-range-h...

The Whatcar 'test' cycle is the only 'real world' test I've seen that essentially puts the iPace nearly top for range, only 6 miles short of the Kona EV.

May be its just a coincidence a UK based consumer lobby group has designed a test that seems to show a Jaguar as been top of the class, or is it just plain old nationalism?

Anyone who actually thinks an iPace in the real world has as much range as a Kona EV has never driven an EV.

Edited by gangzoom on Wednesday 21st August 11:23

[anonymous-user]

gangzoom said:

Witchfinder said:

Perhaps you can point out the flaws in the test? It looks pretty reasonable.
https://www.whatcar.com/news/what-car-real-range-h...

The Whatcar 'test' cycle is the only 'real world' test I've seen that essentially puts the iPace nearly top for range, only 6 miles short of the Kona EV.

May be its just a coincidence a UK based consumer lobby group has designed a test that seems to show a Jaguar as been top of the class, or is it just plain old nationalism?

Anyone who actually thinks an iPace in the real world has as much range as a Kona EV has never driven an EV.

Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 21st August 11:23

Exactly. Bias against the Austrian iPace.

Interestingly my dealer reckons he could get me a new one for ‘£55k or so’. Still too expensive.

[Dave Hedgehog]

REALIST123 said:

Exactly. Bias against the Austrian iPace.

Interestingly my dealer reckons he could get me a new one for ‘£55k or so’. Still too expensive.

git

mine refused to discount saying they could sell all they had, despite having many 100s unsold in stock and 1k mile demos up for under 55k

[anonymous-user]

Bjorn is the best test cycle for real world range measurements.

Based on how your driving compares to his you can de-rate your own range.

[Ryder35]

gangzoom said:

The Whatcar 'test' cycle is the only 'real world' test I've seen that essentially puts the iPace nearly top for range, only 6 miles short of the Kona EV.

May be its just a coincidence a UK based consumer lobby group has designed a test that seems to show a Jaguar as been top of the class, or is it just plain old nationalism?

Anyone who actually thinks an iPace in the real world has as much range as a Kona EV has never driven an EV.

Edited by gangzoom on Wednesday 21st August 11:23

Just to clarify I am pretty sure WhatCar? have nothing to do with Which? or any other consumer lobby group. They are actually there to broker car sales at a discount. Since Tesla do not discount.... seems pretty clear why the test results are as they are!

[T-bagger]

Thanks for the replies guys and apologies for stoking the fire by mentioning I-Pace!
I’ve thrown an order in this morning for an SR+ and will wait to see what comes next...
Hopefully Model 3 was the right decision.

[Ryder35]

T-bagger said:

Thanks for the replies guys and apologies for stoking the fire by mentioning I-Pace!
I’ve thrown an order in this morning for an SR+ and will wait to see what comes next...
Hopefully Model 3 was the right decision.

Good choice!

Looking at this screenshot of an i-pace charging from the latest fully charged show we have 135 miles of range on what looks like approx 80%-90% battery? Am I reading that right?

[Heres Johnny]

Ryder35 said:

Good choice!

Looking at this screenshot of an i-pace charging from the latest fully charged show we have 135 miles of range on what looks like approx 80%-90% battery? Am I reading that right?

Massively inconculsive as Jaguar tune the mileage based on recent consumption which Tesla don't, at least not on the equivalent screen

On a test the car is likely to have been spanked around for half a day which is not renounded for improving efficiency.

So pointless really.

[RobDickinson]

Yep sure Bobby lew had been thrashing it around leafy London suburbs..

[Ryder35]

Heres Johnny said:

Massively inconculsive as Jaguar tune the mileage based on recent consumption which Tesla don't, at least not on the equivalent screen

On a test the car is likely to have been spanked around for half a day which is not renounded for improving efficiency.

So pointless really.

So do you actually think the i-pace has a better real world range than an M3P?

[RobDickinson]

Remember reading an update set the ipace full gom to 388km now which is more realistic

[Heres Johnny]

Ryder35 said:

Heres Johnny said:

Massively inconculsive as Jaguar tune the mileage based on recent consumption which Tesla don't, at least not on the equivalent screen

On a test the car is likely to have been spanked around for half a day which is not renounded for improving efficiency.

So pointless really.

So do you actually think the i-pace has a better real world range than an M3P?

No idea but I do know that if I sat stationary in the car with the heating on and doors open for 30 min taking press pictures having just done a series of 0-60 launches the average consumption would fall fast.

I imagine the M3 is less of a brick shape than the ipace so would be more efficient, but i think the ipace has the bigger battery to counter that.

[RobDickinson]

Heres Johnny said:

No idea but I do know that if I sat stationary in the car with the heating on and doors open for 30 min taking press pictures having just done a series of 0-60 launches the average consumption would fall fast.

I imagine the M3 is less of a brick shape than the ipace so would be more efficient, but i think the ipace has the bigger battery to counter that.

Ipace battery is 90kwh with 82 usable.

Model 3 is 80kwh with 78 usable

[civicduty]

My friend was picking his up today, looks like there were one or two others ready to be picked up.

[Jam0r]

Picked mine up a few weeks ago.

The wait, whilst dealing with sub par communication from Tesla, was certainly worth it.

First EV and stuck with my P- order after the latest selection changes. Few issues with the paint which I didn't notice upon pickup which Tesla are in the process of sorting but other than that, everything was fine. No odd panel gaps and all trim is lined up and where it's meant to be from what I can see.

Driving is certainly an experience and I'm surprised at the amount of attention it gets, from kids all the way up to the elders.

Drove to Barmouth from Birmingham at the weekend. There and back without a charge on the way and ended up at home with 66 miles on a warm day with the climate on, sentry mode active and some traffic in Shrewsbury on the return leg. I set off with 100% aka 309 miles and the nav listed a distance of 120 miles there and back.

The cars prediction as to what charge I would arrive there and back was near enough spot on. It estimated I'd arrive home with 18% battery but it ended up being 19% instead.

So far so good!

[culminator]

So are you saying that with a full charge it indicated a range of 309 but after only 120 miles it indicated you had 66 miles left? Or am I misreading something?

Genuinely interested in a Model 3.

[culminator]

Just re read your post. Perhaps your'e saying the distance for the journey was 120 miles there AND also 120 miles back, which would equal 240 miles travelled with 66 in reserve?

If so, that's impressively accurate.