My Model S Performance vs My RS6 Performance

[stabilio]

After much research, I finally traded in my RS3 for a model 3 performance. Only waited a week from ordering from Inventory to collection.. And yes, my collection was bad to. Couple of issues with car which made things even worse but booked in for service mid Feb only to get a text the next day saying it can go in next week.
Car itself is amazing though and no regrets at all so far.
Don't even miss the noise of the 5 pot RS3 which was the main reason for buying that car.
Tesla do need to improve the collection process as it should be a special occasion collecting a new car. Not waiting about for hours with little attention and almost no info about how you actually drive it, park it etc, lock it etc.

Edited by stabilio on Monday 30th December 20:34

[ZesPak]

stabilio said:

Not waiting about for hours with little attention and almost no info about how you actually drive it, park it etc, lock it etc.

They should option it. But I agree, they are way past the point where everyone who buys one did all the research. For me it was especially annoying when picking up my Jaguar. It was a simple car by all means, but the sales did feel the need to tell me how all the self - explanatory buttons worked, it felt like I was hurting his feelings if he couldn't finish the walk through.
But, when picking up a 50k+ car, you should have the option of receiving it.

[SWoll]

stabilio said:

After much research, I finally traded in my RS3 for a model 3 performance. Only waited a week from ordering from Inventory to collection.. And yes, my collection was bad to. Couple of issues with car which made things even worse but booked in for service mid Feb only to get a text the next day saying it can go in next week.
Car itself is amazing though and no regrets at all so far.
Don't even miss the noise of the 5 pot RS3 which was the main reason for buying that car.
Tesla do need to improve the collection process as it should be a special occasion collecting a new car. Not waiting about for hours with little attention and almost no info about how you actually drive it, park it etc, lock it etc.

Edited by stabilio on Monday 30th December 20:34

Interested in your thoughts on the comparison between the RS3 and the M3P as the sport edition version is priced almost identically to the Tesla so a genuine direct competitor for someone looking to spend £50k on a practical performance car. We often compare it to the RS5/M4/C63S due to it's size and performance but in reality it's £20k cheaper than all of them when optioned up to a similar spec.

[JontyR]

Nolongeronpistonheads said:

Just remember to keep putting pressure on the steering wheel or it turns it off "for the rest of this drive" and gets grumpy with you.

Just carry a small bottle of water with you! Pop it inbetween the spokes of the steering wheel and away you go...no more grumpy Tesla! Track use only obviously!!

[stabilio]

SWoll said:

Interested in your thoughts on the comparison between the RS3 and the M3P as the sport edition version is priced almost identically to the Tesla so a genuine direct competitor for someone looking to spend £50k on a practical performance car. We often compare it to the RS5/M4/C63S due to it's size and performance but in reality it's £20k cheaper than all of them when optioned up to a similar spec.

Well, if you'd have asked me 4 months ago if I'd even consider an 'electric car', the answer would have been not a chance!
With the company car rules changing in April (0% BIK), I got thinking about maybe getting an EV as a company car so i could claim some back rather taking money out of business and paying privately for a car.
I did a lot of research into the Model 3 and it had pretty glowing reviews from pretty much everywhere.

Now, I've had a first gen R35 Nissan GT-R, 1st gen C63 AMG, E46 M3, F80 M3, and more recently the RS3 and I really thought I'd miss the noise and drama of a shouty engine, but I don't.
Whether its just an age thing as I'm mid 40's now I don't know but looking back, all my previous cars seemed to have been side, or diagonal steps but the Model 3 without doubt, seems a step forward and makes the traditional brands seem very out of date and old fashioned.

I love the instant torque and speed and is the fastest car I've owned in the real world. There is no warming up of the engine and driving a bit rough before getting up to temp, no turbo lag, no waiting for gear changes or changing down. While very brisk, its also extremely relaxing and super smooth and actually pretty fun to drive. The tech is on a whole different level and the lack of actually buttons really isn't an issue.
Why do you need a load of buttons to control the mirrors for instance when you'll probably only use them once and never touch them once set up?
There is no key needed to carry around, no actual start/stop button and everything just feels on a different level compared to what you are used to.

You mention "optioned up to a similar spec" and this used to really annoy me with ICE cars as you had to pay pretty big amounts for certain things you wanted. With Tesla, Its a simple choice of colours really and everything else is done by free software updates that add new cool features and can be done while the car is on your drive and you're fast asleep. No ringing the stealer, booking a date and having to wait around for hours.

I took my RS3 (which I loved) for one last drive before selling it and you know what, I hated it and it felt almost pre-historic, clunky and rough and tech wise, very dated.

The Model 3 is also the only car I've had that my wife likes - and as for my kids, it seems Tesla is a very cool brand with the 'yoof' and they were soooo excited when i bought it home. They also hated my previous cars!
It is a completely different buying experience though. I'd never even sat in one let alone test driven one before I ordered mine which seems a massive gamble. Its seems many others are doing the same though...

The whole going green issue had nothing to do with my purchase either. I'll be charging at home and don't do big miles so range and charge points isn't a concern really. My RS3 would get approx 300 to a tank which pretty matches the Tesla only the RS cost close to £70 to fill up where the tesla cost approx £14 and thats on a regular tariff without any smart meter or reduced nightly rates which I have the option of doing.
Was the fuel saving a reason for swapping, nope but if its there, I'm happy to take it

Lastly, it gets lots of positive attention form others who seem very curious about it where with my other cars, it wasn't always positive when you drive a 'flash looking' car.

Edited by stabilio on Tuesday 31st December 15:34

Edited by stabilio on Tuesday 31st December 15:35

Edited by stabilio on Tuesday 31st December 15:38

[SWoll]

stabilio said:

SWoll said:

Interested in your thoughts on the comparison between the RS3 and the M3P as the sport edition version is priced almost identically to the Tesla so a genuine direct competitor for someone looking to spend £50k on a practical performance car. We often compare it to the RS5/M4/C63S due to it's size and performance but in reality it's £20k cheaper than all of them when optioned up to a similar spec.

Well, if you'd have asked me 4 months ago if I'd even consider an 'electric car', the answer would have been not a chance!
With the company car rules changing in April (0% BIK), I got thinking about maybe getting an EV as a company car so i could claim some back rather taking money out of business and paying privately for a car.
I did a lot of research into the Model 3 and it had pretty glowing reviews from pretty much everywhere.

Now, I've had an first gen R35 Nissan GT-R, 1st gen C63 AMG, E46 M3, F80 M3, and more recently the RS3 and I really thought I'd miss the noise and drama of a shouty engine, but I don't.
Whether its just an age thing as I'm mid 40's now I don't know but looking back, all my previous cars seemed to have been side, or diagonal steps but the Model 3 without doubt, seems a step forward and makes the traditional brands seem very out of date and old fashioned.

I love the instant torque and speed and is the fastest car I've owned in the real world. There is no warming up of the engine and driving a bit rough before getting up to temp, no turbo lag, no waiting for gear changes or changing down. While very brisk, its also extremely relaxing and super smooth and actually pretty fun to drive. The tech is on a whole different level and the lack of actually buttons really isn't an issue.
Why do you need a load of buttons to control the mirrors for instance when you'll probably only use them once and never touch them once set up?
There is no key needed to carry around, no actual start/stop button and everything just feels on a different level compared to what you are used to.

You mention "optioned up to a similar spec" and this used to really annoy me with ICE cars as you had to pay pretty big amounts for certain things you wanted. With Tesla, Its a simple choice of colours really and everything else is done by free software updates that add new cool features and can be done while the car is on your drive and you're fast asleep. No ringing the stealer, booking a date and having to wait around for hours.

I took my RS3 (which I loved) for one last drive before selling it and you know what, I hated it and it felt almost pre-historic, clunky and rough and tech wise, very dated.

The Model 3 is also the only car I've had that my wife likes - and as for my kids, it seems Tesla is a very cool brand with the 'yoof' and they were soooo excited when i bought it home. They also hated my previous cars!
It is a completely different buying experience though. I'd never even sat in one let alone test driven one before I ordered mine which seems a massive gamble. Its seems many others are doing the same though...

Lastly, it gets lots of positive attention form others who seem very curious about it where with my other cars, it wasn't always positive when you drive a 'flash looking' car.

Agree with everything you posted. We've had ours for about a month now and it's comfortably the fastest car I've ever owned yet very relaxing and easy to drive normally at the same time. Similar age to you also (43) and just find loud cars a bit cringe worthy nowadays and TBH most of the modern stuff sounds a bit crap compared to 10 years ago anyway. I've also never been stopped so many times by people asking questions from young kids to OAP's.

We first went EV back in April with an i3 to see if it worked for us and now have both that and the M3P. Don't miss ICE at all and have no plans to go back, although something utterly impractical like a Caterham/Westfield for summer weekends might appear in the next year.

Just posted this on another thread but..

[Witchfinder]

stabilio said:

I took my RS3 (which I loved) for one last drive before selling it and you know what, I hated it and it felt almost pre-historic, clunky and rough and tech wise, very dated.

I had this exact experience after I test drove a Model S and got back into my A7 BiTDI. It just felt rough, clunky, and dated. I've struggled on with combustion in the meantime because I simply can't afford an EV big enough, but I'm hoping that'll change this year.