Labour to nationalise Tesla Superchargers

Labour to nationalise Tesla Superchargers

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Witchfinder

6,250 posts

253 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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irocfan said:
cc3 said:
No more BMw buying British instead
indeed - buy a Mini nuts
And said without even a hint of irony. Mini are about as British as Polestar is Swedish

Witchfinder

6,250 posts

253 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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RDMcG said:
As an outsider I am astonished that anyone would vote for Labour. All of the strategies seem to completely ignore competitiveness and the mobility of capital. The idea that companies will pull up and leave is not the big issue- it’s that the risk of investing in an economy run on a hard left strategy is too high.
Brexit has already done for that. So why would you vote Tory either, and risk the hardest of Brexits?

irocfan

40,539 posts

191 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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Witchfinder said:
irocfan said:
cc3 said:
No more BMw buying British instead
indeed - buy a Mini nuts
And said without even a hint of irony. Mini are about as British as Polestar is Swedish
my dear boy, I do believe you've had an irony by-pass. I am aware that the main British things about the Mini are the name and the assembly line - hence the nuts smiley.

HTH

Witchfinder

6,250 posts

253 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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irocfan said:
my dear boy, I do believe you've had an irony by-pass. I am aware that the main British things about the Mini are the name and the assembly line - hence the nuts smiley.

HTH
My comment wasn't directed at you, I was agreeing with you wink

One has to wonder how long production will remain in Britain after Brexit, and after that Chinese Mini factory starts up in Jiangsu.

cc3

2,797 posts

117 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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Witchfinder said:
My comment wasn't directed at you, I was agreeing with you wink

One has to wonder how long production will remain in Britain after Brexit, and after that Chinese Mini factory starts up in Jiangsu.
Yawn yawn. Enjoy driving your Chinese car made with workers paid a pittance and whose workers have very little rights.

Witchfinder

6,250 posts

253 months

Thursday 21st November 2019
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cc3 said:
Yawn yawn. Enjoy driving your Chinese car made with workers paid a pittance and whose workers have very little rights.
Wow, don't like a few home truths, huh?

What China needs is an injection of Swedish integrity. We can see the ethics of their approach from things like their sourcing of cobalt. Their production plant is designed to meet Gold LEED sustainably levels.

You've clearly made up your mind. Thanks for sharing your opinion again. I think you're wrong, and I think your moralisation rings hollow.

irocfan

40,539 posts

191 months

Thursday 21st November 2019
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Witchfinder said:
cc3 said:
Yawn yawn. Enjoy driving your Chinese car made with workers paid a pittance and whose workers have very little rights.
Wow, don't like a few home truths, huh?

What China needs is an injection of Swedish integrity. We can see the ethics of their approach from things like their sourcing of cobalt. Their production plant is designed to meet Gold LEED sustainably levels.

You've clearly made up your mind. Thanks for sharing your opinion again. I think you're wrong, and I think your moralisation rings hollow.
TBF chap there are a lot of people in HK who may disagree with your viewpoint on the Chinese not to mention the pollution levels in various Chinese cities (that's without mentioning their poisoned rivers/lakes and other environment issues) , their treatment of the Uighur - in fact their human rights record generally.

Witchfinder

6,250 posts

253 months

Thursday 21st November 2019
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irocfan said:
TBF chap there are a lot of people in HK who may disagree with your viewpoint on the Chinese not to mention the pollution levels in various Chinese cities (that's without mentioning their poisoned rivers/lakes and other environment issues) , their treatment of the Uighur - in fact their human rights record generally.
And you know what? I agree. China's treatment of HK, Tibet, the Uighurs, political prisoners, and many others is shameful. But crying crocodile tears over one brand whilst consuming myriad others that are deeply involved in China is just hipocrisy.

If you want to genuinely but a British car, you'd need to get a Morgan. Maybe they'll resurrect the electric three-wheeler...

Gandahar

9,600 posts

129 months

Thursday 21st November 2019
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Just to confirm, Labour is not going to nationalise superchargers?

If not, why has this been posted in this section of the forum?

If it is a joke then it needs to be posted in the Cannon and Ball section of the forum as it's not amusing or clever.

DonkeyApple

55,407 posts

170 months

Thursday 21st November 2019
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ds666 said:
JC announced today that all Tesla Supercharger points will be nationalised to “open rapid charging “ to the masses .
They will be free to use . But Tesla drivers , who have enjoyed an elitist privilege , denied to the masses, will in future be limited to 7kw/h chargers in Aldi car parks at 35p per kWh

(Well , you never know ..... )
The Tesla drivers will all be rounded up and shot along with all the other elitist capitalist scum who have been keeping the people down. Their cars will be handed in at the gates along with shoes, teeth and spectacles.

DonkeyApple

55,407 posts

170 months

Thursday 21st November 2019
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kuro68k said:
Still, at least under Labour you might be able to see a cancer specialist within a few months of referral, or not have to wait 6 hours in A&E.

Facebook might even pay some tax!
Unlikely. The NHS’s biggest issue is that it has become so immensely politicised that it has partially crippled itself with its now embedded doctrine that no one can do anything, fix anything or improve anything because of the Government. It’s become a near witless organisation of groteque inefficiency and incompetence. Even if they get the thing that they endlessly State is the solution to their problem there will be no solution as the problem is the mindset of the employees. Which is exactly why you can have two hospitals in the same town that are delivering wildly disparate performance levels on the same budgets. One is staffed by too many losers who think it’s all someone else’s fault and the other has enough members of staff who concentrate on doing a great job with intelligent efficiency.

The rot is in the minds of people of people who need to be removed from the system.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 21st November 2019
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Considering how far behind in the polls Corbyn is he definitely "won" the debate with Boris. Polling afterwards showed them neck and neck, 49 to 51%, which means Boris was struggling and Corbyn came over much better than people expected.

There are always going to be plenty of gammon who will never vote for Labour, which is why they are used as the whipping boy for getting the people who matter, the swinging voters, on board. If your mind is closed and you can't be convinced don't expect them to try to appeal to you or not call you gammon.

DonkeyApple

55,407 posts

170 months

Thursday 21st November 2019
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kuro68k said:
Considering how far behind in the polls Corbyn is he definitely "won" the debate with Boris. Polling afterwards showed them neck and neck, 49 to 51%, which means Boris was struggling and Corbyn came over much better than people expected.

There are always going to be plenty of gammon who will never vote for Labour, which is why they are used as the whipping boy for getting the people who matter, the swinging voters, on board. If your mind is closed and you can't be convinced don't expect them to try to appeal to you or not call you gammon.
And likewise there will always be an equal number of people who will vote for free money etc

Slinging around childish, insults is arguably best left to the NPE forum. In the EV forum surely there is a natural expectation of higher brow behaviour?

irocfan

40,539 posts

191 months

Thursday 21st November 2019
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Witchfinder said:
And you know what? I agree. China's treatment of HK, Tibet, the Uighurs, political prisoners, and many others is shameful. But crying crocodile tears over one brand whilst consuming myriad others that are deeply involved in China is just hipocrisy.

If you want to genuinely but a British car, you'd need to get a Morgan. Maybe they'll resurrect the electric three-wheeler...
Can't disagree with anything there chap beer


WRT to the holy cow (aka the NHS) it's already the 5th biggest employer in the world... how much bigger can/should it get?

cc3

2,797 posts

117 months

Thursday 21st November 2019
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kuro68k said:
Considering how far behind in the polls Corbyn is he definitely "won" the debate with Boris. Polling afterwards showed them neck and neck, 49 to 51%, which means Boris was struggling and Corbyn came over much better than people expected.

There are always going to be plenty of gammon who will never vote for Labour, which is why they are used as the whipping boy for getting the people who matter, the swinging voters, on board. If your mind is closed and you can't be convinced don't expect them to try to appeal to you or not call you gammon.
More left wing racist slurs on the forum.

ds666

Original Poster:

2,640 posts

180 months

Thursday 21st November 2019
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If you want to genuinely but a British car, you'd need to get a Morgan. Maybe they'll resurrect the electric three-wheeler...
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They were bought by an Italian co recently I think ....

TimJMS

2,584 posts

252 months

Thursday 21st November 2019
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DonkeyApple said:
Unlikely. The NHS’s biggest issue is that it has become so immensely politicised that it has partially crippled itself with its now embedded doctrine that no one can do anything, fix anything or improve anything because of the Government. It’s become a near witless organisation of groteque inefficiency and incompetence. Even if they get the thing that they endlessly State is the solution to their problem there will be no solution as the problem is the mindset of the employees. Which is exactly why you can have two hospitals in the same town that are delivering wildly disparate performance levels on the same budgets. One is staffed by too many losers who think it’s all someone else’s fault and the other has enough members of staff who concentrate on doing a great job with intelligent efficiency.

The rot is in the minds of people of people who need to be removed from the system.
Indeed. When the NHS is able to order five hundred Jag iPaces at a time, something tells me that funding is not the issue.

Witchfinder

6,250 posts

253 months

Thursday 21st November 2019
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ds666 said:
They were bought by an Italian co recently I think ....
I looked it up and you're absolutely right.

ds666

Original Poster:

2,640 posts

180 months

Thursday 21st November 2019
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Witchfinder said:
ds666 said:
They were bought by an Italian co recently I think ....
I looked it up and you're absolutely right.
Atom or Noble , Locaterfields etc , think that's about it ... Ineos too maybe .

Dave Hedgehog

14,569 posts

205 months

Thursday 21st November 2019
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TimJMS said:
DonkeyApple said:
Unlikely. The NHS’s biggest issue is that it has become so immensely politicised that it has partially crippled itself with its now embedded doctrine that no one can do anything, fix anything or improve anything because of the Government. It’s become a near witless organisation of groteque inefficiency and incompetence. Even if they get the thing that they endlessly State is the solution to their problem there will be no solution as the problem is the mindset of the employees. Which is exactly why you can have two hospitals in the same town that are delivering wildly disparate performance levels on the same budgets. One is staffed by too many losers who think it’s all someone else’s fault and the other has enough members of staff who concentrate on doing a great job with intelligent efficiency.

The rot is in the minds of people of people who need to be removed from the system.
Indeed. When the NHS is able to order five hundred Jag iPaces at a time, something tells me that funding is not the issue.
depends what spec they are, what discount they got and what they are going to do with them, if they have gone to managers then yep thats fked up

if they got a high discount poverty spec model for high use pick up and drop off's the savings in fuel could be substantial over 5 years, probably pay for the cars.