Tesla unlikely to Survive (Vol. 3)

Tesla unlikely to Survive (Vol. 3)

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Smiljan

10,870 posts

198 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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Isn't that just a graph of Google searches in the USA pilfered from Reddit?

I assume the real reason they don't advertise in this way is that they don't need to, they have used their marketing budget in others ways and currently the supply chain issues and lack of capacity are more of a problem for them than getting people in the door with their wallets so to speak.

Anyway, what would they put in their adverts? They have nothing new to present.


hyphen

26,262 posts

91 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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SEC filing show that Elon transferred $6bn of Tesla stock to a charity last year as a gift... But no announcement and not disclosed which charity so he could be ending world famine or just tax avoidance...


https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/0001318605...

ZesPak

24,435 posts

197 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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Smiljan said:
Anyway, what would they put in their adverts? They have nothing new to present.
Apple still does it?
Should look at the Polestar ad as well.
As much as I like the Polestar, that ad would put me right off.


TameBritishMuslim

172 posts

76 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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The diatribe of defecation on these threads is pure gold! hehe

Smiljan

10,870 posts

198 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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I know that was a terrible advert not sure who signed off on it. I’m in no way advocating advertising as a way forward for Tesla, most ads are awful and to be honest I just skip past them normally anyway when I can.

They seems to have a good handle on where their marketing budget is spent. Tesla fans wear the “no advertising” motto like some badge of honour though and I find it weird. How many other auto makes also never had a Super Bowl ad this year and no one gave a monkeys?

Why are we talking about this again? rofl



Edited by Smiljan on Thursday 17th February 10:34

Smiljan

10,870 posts

198 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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TameBritishMuslim said:
The diatribe of defecation on these threads is pure gold! hehe
Amen your contributions are particularly amusing. If I’d made millions on Tesla stock like you have I wouldn’t spend my days pumping the stock. Odd.

Burwood

18,709 posts

247 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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Smiljan said:
TameBritishMuslim said:
The diatribe of defecation on these threads is pure gold! hehe
Amen your contributions are particularly amusing. If I’d made millions on Tesla stock like you have I wouldn’t spend my days pumping the stock. Odd.
Pure Gold!

TameBritishMuslim

172 posts

76 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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Smiljan said:
TameBritishMuslim said:
The diatribe of defecation on these threads is pure gold! hehe
Amen your contributions are particularly amusing. If I’d made millions on Tesla stock like you have I wouldn’t spend my days pumping the stock. Odd.
Anyone on here can compare the content of my modest contributions in the past couple of months with the 1000 pages of the usual suspects posting rubbish.

Pumping it to whom? Odd bod and junior on here who act like short sellers and yet have no money to short it? hehe

off_again

12,340 posts

235 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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TameBritishMuslim said:
The diatribe of defecation on these threads is pure gold! hehe
Like what? Personally, I find the discussions on the subject of Tesla enlightening and, in the majority of cases, quite accurate. And personally, I have been corrected a few times, and thats good.

PH is far from the Tesla-hating content that you could find, but it is also balanced with some current and ex-owners who are happy to comment accurately on various subjects. Unlike some pro-Tesla sites that are mutual wkbank of fanboys looking for self gratification.

Smiljan

10,870 posts

198 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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I'd agree, if you separate the company from the stock (a little tricky given the thread title) there has been some great discussion on these threads over the past few years no matter how heated it sometimes gets.

TBM has waded in with size 15 boots, posted up a load of drivel stolen from various other sources and added zero to the discussion. Hopefully at some point we'll see some original and insightful discussion from that poster that moves things forward.

I don't know what the end game is for these fanatics, what are they hoping to achieve - is it merely a need to keep the stock price from falling and only ever rise above all else? Are they really that deep in financially that the stock is all that matters?


off_again

12,340 posts

235 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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Smiljan said:
I'd agree, if you separate the company from the stock (a little tricky given the thread title) there has been some great discussion on these threads over the past few years no matter how heated it sometimes gets.
Completely agree. I have learned some stuff and thats a good thing!

I 'think' I know stuff and I have opinions. But it really needs to be tested and countered. If I am wrong, great, tell me! Please! That way I can re-think my opinions. I would hate to be in a situation where I am 100% convinced I am correct 100% of the time. That leads to a slippery slope....

Oh wait....

hehe

Burwood

18,709 posts

247 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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TameBritishMuslim said:
Smiljan said:
TameBritishMuslim said:
The diatribe of defecation on these threads is pure gold! hehe
Amen your contributions are particularly amusing. If I’d made millions on Tesla stock like you have I wouldn’t spend my days pumping the stock. Odd.
Anyone on here can compare the content of my modest contributions in the past couple of months with the 1000 pages of the usual suspects posting rubbish.

Pumping it to whom? Odd bod and junior on here who act like short sellers and yet have no money to short it? hehe
Does modest contributions mean, posting nothing except the classic pumping shill. ‘I made 2m and Tesla rocks, ok’. You don’t own 1 single share-everyone here knows it wink.

I await the retort

hyphen

26,262 posts

91 months

Friday 18th February 2022
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Musk is really supporting the Canadian protestors...

Trudeau is a disgrace at the way he is acting, but Hitler is a bit too far?


gregs656

10,903 posts

182 months

Friday 18th February 2022
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Why would someone with his profile get anywhere near that conversation if they didn't have to?

Burwood

18,709 posts

247 months

Friday 18th February 2022
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gregs656 said:
Why would someone with his profile get anywhere near that conversation if they didn't have to?
Particularly given what's going on in his factories. He's off his meds again!

Smiljan

10,870 posts

198 months

Friday 18th February 2022
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For someone who insists he lives in a hut and works 24/7 he does seem to have a lot of time for drugs, gaming, Twitter and court appearances. I don’t know where he gets his energy from.

off_again

12,340 posts

235 months

Friday 18th February 2022
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Its crap like this Hitler thing that makes me think he is just a very good Troll.

He has no qualifications in pretty much everything he does - he's not qualified in mechanical engineering, automotive engineering, production engineering or astrophysics. He hasnt created anything in any of the companies he's involved in. Though I will accept (after checking Wikipedia) that he does have a couple of Physics degrees.

Which makes me think - he's just an utter narcissist who craves attention, positive or not. And he has developed a mechanism to do this while weaponizing Twitter. So yeah, a complete Troll who revels in the attention that he gains while the great un-washed masses of Fanboys lap up his wise statements and acute observations as a cultist does for their 'great leader'.

And the Hitler thing is just one of a number of these moronic ill-advised steps in current topics du jour. As the saying goes, "dont feed the Troll", unfortunately there are plenty of people who do, and the f**kstick loves it.....

hyphen

26,262 posts

91 months

Friday 18th February 2022
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Perhaps Trudeau isn't favourable to Elon's companies, and Elon is mates with the opposition wink There are previous precedents of Billionaires seeking to overthrow leader!


Ofcourse that is a small probability, and he was probably high on drugs like usual.

hyphen

26,262 posts

91 months

Friday 18th February 2022
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off_again said:
He has no qualifications in pretty much everything he does...
Taking away my personal feelings, and being objective - He is the second wealthiest person in the world and that doesn't happen by chance - he is immensely talented and head and shoulders above most. As he is out competing all but one of the $7.9 billion people on Earth!

Has numerous faults, and makes strategic errors, but not enough for other to capitalise on, strangely.

Edited by hyphen on Friday 18th February 21:04

Heres Johnny

7,232 posts

125 months

Saturday 19th February 2022
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hyphen said:
Taking away my personal feelings, and being objective - He is the second wealthiest person in the world and that doesn't happen by chance - he is immensely talented and head and shoulders above most. As he is out competing all but one of the $7.9 billion people on Earth!

Has numerous faults, and makes strategic errors, but not enough for other to capitalise on, strangely.

Edited by hyphen on Friday 18th February 21:04
Yep, he’s bright ok. Whether he’s clever at what many people think he is (technology, AI, software, engineering etc) or things like social engineering, capitalising on environmental change and plugging into government grants, both directly (tax incentives to build factories) or indirectly (tax incentives to buy his cars) is probably the debateable point.

In music and film there are two types of the mega famous. Those that surround themselves with people offering great advice they’re prepared to listen to, Sting, Springsteen, Bono, Hanks, Eastwood, and there are those that just fire anyone that don’t tell them what they want to hear, Jackson, Houston, Prince, Cobain, Depp, Cage. It doesn’t end well.

The former in business is Bezos, Gates etc, the later is Jobs, Musk…

You really don’t want to be in the latter camp for too long