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Hans_Gruber said:
Range Rover is a a fantastic car but average 24 MPG with £1.85p litre is the sort of range anxiety I’m happy to avoid
More like 30mpg and 1.80/L. Versus 76p per kWh for a supercharger. So a long rage model 3 with a 75.0 kWh battery will cost almost £60 for 300 miles. Doesn't sound cheap to me. 
wormus said:
More like 30mpg and 1.80/L. Versus 76p per kWh for a supercharger. So a long rage model 3 with a 75.0 kWh battery will cost almost £60 for 300 miles. Doesn't sound cheap to me.
Yep, the 1600 mile trip I did to Germany cost me..........£0Gotta love free Supercharging, don't remember any of my JLR cars having that. I also don't remember any of them doing 30mpg, especially not the V8 Disco 3.
RobbyJ said:
wormus said:
More like 30mpg and 1.80/L. Versus 76p per kWh for a supercharger. So a long rage model 3 with a 75.0 kWh battery will cost almost £60 for 300 miles. Doesn't sound cheap to me.
Yep, the 1600 mile trip I did to Germany cost me..........£0Gotta love free Supercharging, don't remember any of my JLR cars having that. I also don't remember any of them doing 30mpg, especially not the V8 Disco 3.
NDA said:
My electricity has gone up to 22p which from 0-100% costs £16. My Range Rover was £160. A bit cheaper.
Great so long as you only charge at home I guess. Don’t know where you’re buying your fuel but my Disco does 440 miles on about £110 fuel. My daughter’s Fiesta does 300 miles on £50 of unleaded so it’s easy to confirm your own bias. wormus said:
My Disco 4 averages 30mpg. How much did you pay to get “free” supercharging ?
Nothing, sold my 750bhp RS7, bought a 762bhp Tesla that costs be a fraction of the cost to run. Pros and cons for sure but I genuinely prefer it, didn't think I would, bought it to 'give it a go' and personally I don't want to go back to ICE. RobbyJ said:
Nothing, sold my 750bhp RS7, bought a 762bhp Tesla that costs be a fraction of the cost to run. Pros and cons for sure but I genuinely prefer it, didn't think I would, bought it to 'give it a go' and personally I don't want to go back to ICE.
But ultimately somebody pays for the electricity right? I’d wager it’s you. If we’re playing top trumps, own an 830hp Monaro pushrod V8 with a supercharger, but I’d not swap it for an EV. To do so would be missing the point of being a petrol head. wormus said:
But ultimately somebody pays for the electricity right? I’d wager it’s you. If we’re playing top trumps, own an 830hp Monaro pushrod V8 with a supercharger, but I’d not swap it for an EV. To do so would be missing the point of being a petrol head.
Good for you and I bet that's an absolute beast. I'm not trying to convert you to my cult, but it is possible for a true petrol head that has had a lifelong obsession with 4WD cars that can get serious power down on the road (and some JLR products for commuting) to convert to an EV, and to stay on topic they are pretty good in the snow. If you want a snow drag race, Monaro Vs Float I'm game.Oh and the original owner that paid £120+k paid for my free electricity, or Elon, either way not me.
I’ve got free supercharging on mine too. Paid roughly the same price as my Range Rover. Cars are about the same size. Tesla is much quicker. Range Rover is better looking and better appointed.
I really don’t see electric cars as being any less for driving enthusiasts than ICE. They have a new and interesting set of pleasures. In fact, they are converting a new generation to driving (Teslas are oddly cool with millennials/Gen Z - seemingly cooler than nearly all ICE cars). I view EVs as simply being a different form of transportation - rather similar to how many car owners think motorbikes are not interesting but bikes are nevertheless enthusiasts’ vehicles.
I really don’t see electric cars as being any less for driving enthusiasts than ICE. They have a new and interesting set of pleasures. In fact, they are converting a new generation to driving (Teslas are oddly cool with millennials/Gen Z - seemingly cooler than nearly all ICE cars). I view EVs as simply being a different form of transportation - rather similar to how many car owners think motorbikes are not interesting but bikes are nevertheless enthusiasts’ vehicles.
I agree - I've had cars from Lamborghini, Aston, Ford GT... quite a few. And yet if I have a Tesla, despite owning other cars, I am no longer a fan of petrol. I assume the same applies to you AZ - despite multiple Ferrari's, Astons etc. You have been judged by the driving gods!
Funny to ask a question about a Tesla in a Tesla thread and get others jumping in who've never owned one to make their little 'milk float' comments. Bit sad.
Funny to ask a question about a Tesla in a Tesla thread and get others jumping in who've never owned one to make their little 'milk float' comments. Bit sad.
NDA said:
I agree - I've had cars from Lamborghini, Aston, Ford GT... quite a few. And yet if I have a Tesla, despite owning other cars, I am no longer a fan of petrol. I assume the same applies to you AZ - despite multiple Ferrari's, Astons etc. You have been judged by the driving gods!
Funny to ask a question about a Tesla in a Tesla thread and get others jumping in who've never owned one to make their little 'milk float' comments. Bit sad.
Only thing that’s sad is you’ve owned all those great cars but didn’t understand what made them interesting or what drove the people who made to make them in the first place.Funny to ask a question about a Tesla in a Tesla thread and get others jumping in who've never owned one to make their little 'milk float' comments. Bit sad.
Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 10th December 23:54
wormus said:
Only thing that’s sad is you’ve owned all those great cars but didn’t understand what made them interesting or what drove the people who made to make them in the first place.
Funny thing is I probably do - having driven at Le Mans a couple of times. But you stick to popping up on Tesla threads to display your great knowledge as it's hilarious.wormus said:
Only thing that’s sad is you’ve owned all those great cars but didn’t understand what made them interesting or what drove the people who made to make them in the first place.
As well as magically being able to comment on a the performance of a car that you haven’t owned in specific conditions that you haven’t driven it in, you now can see deep into the psyche and experiences of people that you haven’t met. I’m fascinated that you seemingly inhabit an ethereal plane beyond us mere mortals.
Are there any further insights that you can share to enlighten us, preferably ones that you are unqualified on which to opine?
Edited by AstonZagato on Sunday 11th December 10:25
wormus said:
Only thing that’s sad is you’ve owned all those great cars but didn’t understand what made them interesting or what drove the people who made to make them in the first place.
That’s a bit “meh”. If you’re going to try to push people’s buttons on a random forum, you could do much better;Edited by wormus on Saturday 10th December 23:54
- try to be more specific, combining 2 generic insults into one just shows desperation and a lack of preparation
- Try to string your sentences together, it will give you more credibility
I’ll give that a 3/10
Edited by Hans_Gruber on Sunday 11th December 10:23
wormus said:
Hans_Gruber said:
Range Rover is a a fantastic car but average 24 MPG with £1.85p litre is the sort of range anxiety I’m happy to avoid
More like 30mpg and 1.80/L. Versus 76p per kWh for a supercharger. So a long rage model 3 with a 75.0 kWh battery will cost almost £60 for 300 miles. Doesn't sound cheap to me. page3 said:
wormus said:
Hans_Gruber said:
Range Rover is a a fantastic car but average 24 MPG with £1.85p litre is the sort of range anxiety I’m happy to avoid
More like 30mpg and 1.80/L. Versus 76p per kWh for a supercharger. So a long rage model 3 with a 75.0 kWh battery will cost almost £60 for 300 miles. Doesn't sound cheap to me. 
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